Deporting US citizens?

[Bn2f]

Yet that's not what you did.

Please pay attention in class from now on.

Yeah. I see where this is already going with you endlessly pullin on your lil weenie because answerin if slavery was bad is too hard for bitch MAGATs to answer.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Well, gosh, I guess if a foreign country assures the USA nobody will be mistreated in their prisons, even signs a treaty saying they won't, it can't happen can it?

Remember, even in "civilized" countries people are sometimes mistreated in prisons (the millions paid out in lawsuits in the USA over the years attest to that) and if people are imprisoned some place NOT under the jurisdiction of the USA (Guantanamo Bay is at least nominally under the control of the USA, at least until they have to sell it back to Cuba to pay the bills after Trump bankrupts the USA) how can the USA ensure there will be no mistreatment, or provide a remedy if there is?

Besides, suppose a prisoner in that El Salvador prison makes the claim, "I've committed no crime in El Salvador. It is illegal for El Salvador to hold me in prison unless I've been convicted of a crime in El Salvador." El Salvador would have to release him, wouldn't they?

Oh please.

Hypothetical fearmongering to make a political point is so yesterday.

What's "hypothetical" about your Bill of Rights prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment? Or do you seriously believe that other nations can run prisons more humanely than the USA?

 

[HisArpy]

Yeah. I see where this is already going with you endlessly pullin on your lil weenie because answerin if slavery was bad is too hard for bitch MAGATs to answer.

dudly, the answer is obvious and doesn't need to be belabored by either of us.


That you raise the issue, when it's not the issue at all, only shows you've got nothing of substance but still have an overwhelming urge to fuck yourself in public once again.

 

[HisArpy]

What's "hypothetical" about your Bill of Rights prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment? Or do you seriously believe that other nations can run prisons more humanely than the USA?

Show us where that's happening. Show us where US PRISONERS are being treated inhumanely in a foreign country.

If you can't, it's just hypothetical fearmongering to make a political point.

 

[Hel_Books]

Show us where that's happening. Show us where US PRISONERS are being treated inhumanely in a foreign country.

If you can't, it's just hypothetical fearmongering to make a political point.

Sigh. You're like someone standing on top of a newly-built skyscraper saying, "It's perfectly safe to jump off this building. Nobody has ever before been hurt jumping off this building!"

 

[HisArpy]

Sigh. You're like someone standing on top of a newly-built skyscraper saying, "It's perfectly safe to jump off this building. Nobody has ever before been hurt jumping off this building!"

Actually, I'm the guy telling you not to put your body parts across the terminals of a 12v battery. Because it's not safe no matter what "self professed experts" tell you.

Now I'm the guy telling you that continuing to act like a fool in public isn't helping your credibility.

 

[Bn2f]

dudly, the answer is obvious and doesn't need to be belabored by either of us.


That you raise the issue, when it's not the issue at all, only shows you've got nothing of substance but still have an overwhelming urge to fuck yourself in public once again.

You’re a plagiarist and a racist and a slavist and an incestist and a fascist and since you support rapist, ill throw that in as well.

 

[Bray123]

The EU is taking steps to protect officials from Trumpism.

https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/04/14/eu-europe-officials-visit-us-burner-phone-spying-security/

European Union executives traveling to the United States are being given burner phones and basic laptops to mitigate security concerns — measures that are usually reserved for trips to China and Russia, where personal communications are considered less safe from spying.

Members of the European Commission were advised last week to take precautions while attending next week’s International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank spring meetings in Washington D.C, according to the Financial Times.

Officials overseas reportedly worry the U.S. may seek insight into “commission systems” when financial executives prepare to meet with their stateside counterparts.

“The Transatlantic Alliance is over,” one EU official told the Times.

 

[HisArpy]

You’re a plagiarist and a racist and a slavist and an incestist and a fascist and since you support rapist, ill throw that in as well.

^someone thinks making de facto defamatory comments is the way to become successful and make his mom proud of him.

Unfortunately we now have to endure the spectacle of him publicly fucking himself again today.

 

[Bn2f]

^someone thinks making de facto defamatory comments is the way to become successful and make his mom proud of him.

Unfortunately we now have to endure the spectacle of him publicly fucking himself again today.

Haha! And I thought I was the one making a word salad.

 

[Bray123]

You’re a plagiarist and a racist and a slavist and an incestist and a fascist and since you support rapist, ill throw that in as well.

And he still insists that Signal Chat is an appropriate & approved means of discussing Top Secret military operations.

 

[ll74]

I continue to wonder why the government keeps lying in their defense of these deportations.

They don't need to lie about Garcia. He was already listed as deportable. Bring him back...allow him habeas then send him to a different country.

 

[HisArpy]

I continue to wonder why the government keeps lying in their defense of these deportations.

They don't need to lie about Garcia. He was already listed as deportable. Bring him back...allow him habeas then send him to a different country.

dude, give it a rest.

1. He's already had his due process. He was determined to be a member of MS 13 by the courts.
2. His deportation was an administrative mistake that;
3. Cannot be cured by the US because it involves a decision by a foreign government. A foreign government which has already EMPHATICALLY said that they will deny extradition of their citizen to the US.

 

[HisArpy]

Haha! And I thought I was the one making a word salad.

And yet you went ahead and posted it anyway.

Amazing...

 

[HisArpy]

And he still insists that Signal Chat is an appropriate & approved means of discussing Top Secret military operations.

Didn't you get the memo? No "top secret" "war plans" information was exchanged over Signal Chat.

 

[ll74]

Didn't you get the memo? No "top secret" "war plans" information was exchanged over Signal Chat.

Lol

dear leader thanks you for your service

 

[Bray123]

Didn't you get the memo? No "top secret" "war plans" information was exchanged over Signal Chat.

Of course they were. If the posts had been made on Xitter all hell would have broken out.

Anyway, doesn't matter what the status was. As you know full well (or would if you were a real lawyer), Signal auto-deletes texts so is not suitable when communications have to be retained for the National Archives.

And that includes briefings eaten by the Lunatic in Charge to try to avoid that retention.

 

[HisArpy]

Lol

dear leader thanks you for your service

 

[ll74]

Lol

I read the chat, dipshit

Attack targets and timing was revealed prior to the attack.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The Supreme Court ruled that Garcia was denied due process (despite Derpy's mewling to the contrary), and issued a court order to the US government to "facilitate" his return from the El Salvadoran gulag.

Federal Judge Ikinis demanded to know exactly what steps the US government had taken to comply with her court order. The DOJ could not answer the question. The judge then ordered expedited depositions of government officials by April 23rd and discovery complete by April 28th.

The DOJ attorney meekly said that the government would appeal to the Supreme Court and the judge indicated that the Supreme Court had already ruled last week so any appeal would be moot. The DOJ attorney then asked her to clarify the meaning of the word "facillitate", which the judge said she would do via written order.

So the DOJ is now between a rock and a hard place: either get Garcia returned or detail under penalty of perjury steps taken to do so, or face contempt of court rulings.

Interesting factoid released yesterday - The "ICE investigator" who determined that Garcia was a gang member of MS-13 was previously terminated by the Minneapolis police department for fabricating evidence. This of course made him a good fit for ICE.....

And in an amazing, simply amazing turn of events yesterday, it was revealed that the exact same "ICE investigator" in question had been SUSPENDED from ICE recently for "mishandling confidential ICE investigation interviews"....the guy traded information regarding a suspected female immigrant sex trafficker in exchange for .....sex, of course.

BTW, Garcia was NOT an MS-13 gang member, despite Trump, Vance, Leavitt and Derpy insisting he was. He was heavily recruited by MS-13, and his mom was being forced to pay extortion payment in exchange for the MS-13 gang not carving up her only son with machetes. They sought, and were granted, a provisional asylum request in the United States.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I know it has been years since you soiled the honor of the United States Army with your presence, but even you know (or should have known) that the "order of battle" is among the most highly classified information in the military.

Consider what Adolf would have done differently if he had had access to the Allied Forces order of battle in June 1944.

 

[Ciceri]

This isn't what's going on at all. However, I do agree that we need immigration overhaul.

How about mandating that someone who wants to come to the US begin their journey at their local US embassy or Consulate by applying for either a green card or asylum and waiting until all the paperwork is completed and approved before beating feet for the US border? Port of entry requests would operated the same way, apply and wait for the paperwork to be processed and approved. No crossing the border without authorization, no living/working in the US without the green card or asylum grant.

Simple really.

The people this regime is targeting includes many who are here legally. It’s the indiscriminate deportation and likelihood of removing actual citizens that is the problem.

 

[cowboyup6977]

The pres has expressed an interest in deporting US criminals to El Salvador.
This is... interesting. El Salvador is the new Siberia?
I'm guessing the two main responses will be:

1, This is outrageous. American citizens have rights.

2, Good riddance. Criminals deserve no rights.

I’ll choose 2

 

[Bray123]

I’ll choose 2

Kilmar Abrego Garcia has not been convicted of any offence.

But he still has no rights.

 

[Beachguy23]

That’s great, deport that fucking criminal Trump.