The dynamics of the dating world in the modern era...

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well, I recently took my first real shot at online dating...

I have a few observations, some of which may be only relevant to the online version but some of which might be more widespread...

The first is that what I thought might be my most limiting factor was exactly the opposite. My age. Now, I'll preface this to say I was mostly on what the kids probably call "Hook Up Sites". They focused on women in the geographical area and there was a pretty fair amount of profiles saying they were looking for No Strings Attached and/or Friends With Benefits type of relationships. My results would indicate that either the women posting these are deceiving themselves or that the women responding to ME were generally more interested in a more drawn out relationship. But that wasn't one the things I found surprising. I got a fair amount of interest from women in my age group: and some of those were, IMHO, among the most attractive on the site.

But I also got a huge amount of response from much younger women. And I don't mean late 30s/early 40s, which was already younger than my profile indicated I was interested in (I set my age range as 45-65). No, I'm talking about a very large response from late 20s and even some as young as 19. And the younger ones were almost exclusively looking for a relationship, not a hookup or a friend with benefits. ( I had put as the very first line of my profile that I wasn't looking for long-term due to my cancer diagnosis)

This has drawn my curiosity. So, while I was responding to a few of the accounts that seemed most realistic about expectations (and in the beginning of this process, I was definitely looking to get laid.) I also asked some of these younger women, "why all the interest in a guy like me? I'm twice your age (for some, 3x). Why would you be hitting on ME? I got a wide crossection of answers.But as I looked at them, I discovered the common theme. The majority of these young women talked about how disappointed they were with young me.And I realized that we have an entire generation of younger men that have absolutely no clue how to talk to a woman. They know how to respond to an authority figure who is female (or seem to) by treating her like a slightly less aggressive man. They know, or think they know, how to talk to a whore. In this case, I am not necessarily talking about a pro. I mean the girl they classify as a "Hoe". More sexually available, more aggressive and typically more defensive as well. But talking to a woman between those two extremes?? Clueless. Abso-fucking-luetely Clueless. And they have even less of an idea how to treat a lady. We have raised a generation of sexual idiots! And I freely admit that I could be portrayed as having taken advantage of the situation. My new girlfriend is 27.

The women my own age were almost exclusively looking just for sex. Most of them were divorced or widowed, but a pretty fair percentage were married and wished to keep things 'DISCREET' ....not that the younger ranks were devoid of this kind of petitioner.


Also, the "era of the dick pick" might have done those of us who just want to see pictures of naked girls a big favor. A VERY high percentage of these women sent me nudes or partial nudes within the first few minutes of contact. A non-insignificant number sent them to me in their very first message. And a large percentage of them were quite attractive.

The last thing I'll talk about in this post is that the era of reluctance towards sexual adventure is all but gone, at least in this demographic. I received multiple invitations to threesomes. Anal was all but expected. I even had a 25 year old, that opened our conversation with a picture of possibly the very prettiest pussy I have ever seen, that asked me if I was willing to follow up cumming in her mouth with sticking my dick in the back of her mouth and PEEING DOWN HER THROAT. In all my years of depravity, this is the first time I've been asked to do this. Rimming. which used to equally rare, was a common request, however.
 
well, I recently took my first real shot at online dating...

I have a few observations, some of which may be only relevant to the online version but some of which might be more widespread...

The first is that what I thought might be my most limiting factor was exactly the opposite. My age. Now, I'll preface this to say I was mostly on what the kids probably call "Hook Up Sites". They focused on women in the geographical area and there was a pretty fair amount of profiles saying they were looking for No Strings Attached and/or Friends With Benefits type of relationships. My results would indicate that either the women posting these are deceiving themselves or that the women responding to ME were generally more interested in a more drawn out relationship. But that wasn't one the things I found surprising. I got a fair amount of interest from women in my age group: and some of those were, IMHO, among the most attractive on the site.

But I also got a huge amount of response from much younger women. And I don't mean late 30s/early 40s, which was already younger than my profile indicated I was interested in (I set my age range as 45-65). No, I'm talking about a very large response from late 20s and even some as young as 19. And the younger ones were almost exclusively looking for a relationship, not a hookup or a friend with benefits. ( I had put as the very first line of my profile that I wasn't looking for long-term due to my cancer diagnosis)

This has drawn my curiosity. So, while I was responding to a few of the accounts that seemed most realistic about expectations (and in the beginning of this process, I was definitely looking to get laid.) I also asked some of these younger women, "why all the interest in a guy like me? I'm twice your age (for some, 3x). Why would you be hitting on ME? I got a wide crossection of answers.But as I looked at them, I discovered the common theme. The majority of these young women talked about how disappointed they were with young me.And I realized that we have an entire generation of younger men that have absolutely no clue how to talk to a woman. They know how to respond to an authority figure who is female (or seem to) by treating her like a slightly less aggressive man. They know, or think they know, how to talk to a whore. In this case, I am not necessarily talking about a pro. I mean the girl they classify as a "Hoe". More sexually available, more aggressive and typically more defensive as well. But talking to a woman between those two extremes?? Clueless. Abso-fucking-luetely Clueless. And they have even less of an idea how to treat a lady. We have raised a generation of sexual idiots! And I freely admit that I could be portrayed as having taken advantage of the situation. My new girlfriend is 27.

The women my own age were almost exclusively looking just for sex. Most of them were divorced or widowed, but a pretty fair percentage were married and wished to keep things 'DISCREET' ....not that the younger ranks were devoid of this kind of petitioner.


Also, the "era of the dick pick" might have done those of us who just want to see pictures of naked girls a big favor. A VERY high percentage of these women sent me nudes or partial nudes within the first few minutes of contact. A non-insignificant number sent them to me in their very first message. And a large percentage of them were quite attractive.

The last thing I'll talk about in this post is that the era of reluctance towards sexual adventure is all but gone, at least in this demographic. I received multiple invitations to threesomes. Anal was all but expected. I even had a 25 year old, that opened our conversation with a picture of possibly the very prettiest pussy I have ever seen, that asked me if I was willing to follow up cumming in her mouth with sticking my dick in the back of her mouth and PEEING DOWN HER THROAT. In all my years of depravity, this is the first time I've been asked to do this. Rimming. which used to equally rare, was a common request, however.
I'm not saying this is what happened to you, but I have heard that there are some OF models who use sites like this not to find hookups but in an attempt to get you to sign up for their subscription site of choice (onlyfans, fansly, etc). They'll start the conversation like a hookup is possible, but gosh wouldn't you know it she's washing her hair tonight and maybe, before your first date, you'd like to sign up over here for a couple bucks to get a little preview of what the real date might be like!

I hope you find what you're looking for, whatever that is, because we all deserve to be happy.
 
Sex work is real work, and I respect the hustle. Just be aware going in.

EDIT: Also, sometimes girls just be thirsty. It happens.
 
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Um, sorry, I find this post unintentionally hilarious if taken at face value.

Young men - not good at talking to young women.
Young women - sending pussy photos to strangers three times their age and asking to be pissed on.

Conclusion - we're doing a bad job raising men. The modern gender discourse in a nutshell.
 
Um, sorry, I find this post unintentionally hilarious if taken at face value.

Young men - not good at talking to young women.
Young women - sending pussy photos to strangers three times their age and asking to be pissed in.

Conclusion - we're doing a bad job raising men. The modern gender discourse in a nutshell.
Fixed your post.
 
Um, sorry, I find this post unintentionally hilarious if taken at face value.

Young men - not good at talking to young women.
Young women - sending pussy photos to strangers three times their age and asking to be pissed on.

Conclusion - we're doing a bad job raising men. The modern gender discourse in a nutshell.
Why, back in the good ol' days, no woman had to ask to be pissed on! It was going to happen regardless!

(I was trying to be sarcastic, but I'm questioning whether or not I succeeded after reading it...)
 
I'm not saying this is what happened to you, but I have heard that there are some OF models who use sites like this not to find hookups but in an attempt to get you to sign up for their subscription site of choice (onlyfans, fansly, etc). They'll start the conversation like a hookup is possible, but gosh wouldn't you know it she's washing her hair tonight and maybe, before your first date, you'd like to sign up over here for a couple bucks to get a little preview of what the real date might be like!

Also there are a lot of "lonely hearts" scammers who use dating sites (and indeed non-dating sites) to find marks. My partner regularly gets approached by younger guys on Facebook with some variation of "you seem interesting, let's be friends?" When she accepts, they'll push towards declarations of love as fast as they can get away with, and then there'll be some reason why they need her to buy air tickets or gift cards or ... Often they're using the name and stolen photos of some real person who has nothing to do with the scam.

It's possible that there really are 19-year-old women out there looking for a relationship with a much older guy with no nefarious motives, eager to send nudes and go straight to kinky sex. But if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
 
well, I recently took my first real shot at online dating...

I have a few observations, some of which may be only relevant to the online version but some of which might be more widespread...

The first is that what I thought might be my most limiting factor was exactly the opposite. My age. Now, I'll preface this to say I was mostly on what the kids probably call "Hook Up Sites". They focused on women in the geographical area and there was a pretty fair amount of profiles saying they were looking for No Strings Attached and/or Friends With Benefits type of relationships. My results would indicate that either the women posting these are deceiving themselves or that the women responding to ME were generally more interested in a more drawn out relationship. But that wasn't one the things I found surprising. I got a fair amount of interest from women in my age group: and some of those were, IMHO, among the most attractive on the site.

But I also got a huge amount of response from much younger women. And I don't mean late 30s/early 40s, which was already younger than my profile indicated I was interested in (I set my age range as 45-65). No, I'm talking about a very large response from late 20s and even some as young as 19. And the younger ones were almost exclusively looking for a relationship, not a hookup or a friend with benefits. ( I had put as the very first line of my profile that I wasn't looking for long-term due to my cancer diagnosis)

This has drawn my curiosity. So, while I was responding to a few of the accounts that seemed most realistic about expectations (and in the beginning of this process, I was definitely looking to get laid.) I also asked some of these younger women, "why all the interest in a guy like me? I'm twice your age (for some, 3x). Why would you be hitting on ME? I got a wide crossection of answers.But as I looked at them, I discovered the common theme. The majority of these young women talked about how disappointed they were with young me.And I realized that we have an entire generation of younger men that have absolutely no clue how to talk to a woman. They know how to respond to an authority figure who is female (or seem to) by treating her like a slightly less aggressive man. They know, or think they know, how to talk to a whore. In this case, I am not necessarily talking about a pro. I mean the girl they classify as a "Hoe". More sexually available, more aggressive and typically more defensive as well. But talking to a woman between those two extremes?? Clueless. Abso-fucking-luetely Clueless. And they have even less of an idea how to treat a lady. We have raised a generation of sexual idiots! And I freely admit that I could be portrayed as having taken advantage of the situation. My new girlfriend is 27.

The women my own age were almost exclusively looking just for sex. Most of them were divorced or widowed, but a pretty fair percentage were married and wished to keep things 'DISCREET' ....not that the younger ranks were devoid of this kind of petitioner.


Also, the "era of the dick pick" might have done those of us who just want to see pictures of naked girls a big favor. A VERY high percentage of these women sent me nudes or partial nudes within the first few minutes of contact. A non-insignificant number sent them to me in their very first message. And a large percentage of them were quite attractive.

The last thing I'll talk about in this post is that the era of reluctance towards sexual adventure is all but gone, at least in this demographic. I received multiple invitations to threesomes. Anal was all but expected. I even had a 25 year old, that opened our conversation with a picture of possibly the very prettiest pussy I have ever seen, that asked me if I was willing to follow up cumming in her mouth with sticking my dick in the back of her mouth and PEEING DOWN HER THROAT. In all my years of depravity, this is the first time I've been asked to do this. Rimming. which used to equally rare, was a common request, however.
Well, that’s definitely a wild ride of observations! Online dating can be a strange and eye-opening experience, especially with generational differences in expectations and communication. Sounds like you stumbled onto some interesting social trends especially the contrast in how different age groups approach relationships and intimacy. The openness (or lack thereof) in modern dating is definitely something to think about.
 
I'm not saying this is what happened to you, but I have heard that there are some OF models who use sites like this not to find hookups but in an attempt to get you to sign up for their subscription site of choice (onlyfans, fansly, etc). They'll start the conversation like a hookup is possible, but gosh wouldn't you know it she's washing her hair tonight and maybe, before your first date, you'd like to sign up over here for a couple bucks to get a little preview of what the real date might be like!

I hope you find what you're looking for, whatever that is, because we all deserve to be happy.
That’s definitely a common tactic these days! Some people are on those sites for genuine connections, but others are just running a side hustle. Always good to keep an eye out for the red flags. Hope OP finds what they're actually looking for.
 
But I also got a huge amount of response from much younger women. And I don't mean late 30s/early 40s, which was already younger than my profile indicated I was interested in (I set my age range as 45-65). No, I'm talking about a very large response from late 20s and even some as young as 19. And the younger ones were almost exclusively looking for a relationship, not a hookup or a friend with benefits. ( I had put as the very first line of my profile that I wasn't looking for long-term due to my cancer diagnosis)
Catfishers.

Russian or Chinese scammers up to who knows what. Stealing identities as least.

Or as mentioned, 'Model's looking for sugar daddies, or outright thieves looking to take every dime.
 
I have insufficient personal knowledge of whether young men lack dating skills, but as someone who was involved in online dating in his 40s, I can report, based on my conversations with women I dated, that there are plenty of men in their 40s (and this was over 10 years ago) lacking skills too. I got the impression I had a leg up just by not being hopelessly rude and uncouth, and not acting desperate.
 
I have insufficient personal knowledge of whether young men lack dating skills, but as someone who was involved in online dating in his 40s, I can report, based on my conversations with women I dated, that there are plenty of men in their 40s (and this was over 10 years ago) lacking skills too. I got the impression I had a leg up just by not being hopelessly rude and uncouth, and not acting desperate.
You have always seemed to be the kind of person one could have really interesting conversations with. That's a rare skill in these goldfish days.
 
You have always seemed to be the kind of person one could have really interesting conversations with. That's a rare skill in these goldfish days.

Thank you! That's kind. That's probably more true since my 40s. In my 20s I was shy and often tongue-tied. But I found the standard when online dating in middle age was not that high. Just clearing the goldfish bar was enough, say, reaching the level of salmon or tuna.
 
well, I recently took my first real shot at online dating...

I have a few observations, some of which may be only relevant to the online version but some of which might be more widespread...
I had put as the very first line of my profile that I wasn't looking for long-term due to my cancer diagnosis.
At first glance, I'd think "Sugar baby, looking for a sugar daddy."

There are such websites dedicated to young women looking for older, successful men (or women) who have the money and be willing to pay their way through "college" or life in general. And those young ladies KNOW there are hundreds or thousands of others in competition for "Mister Right". So, I'd expect some to offer more extreme incentives for you to pick them.

Your indicating a health problem is no problem for them, but actually a selling point.
 
You have always seemed to be the kind of person one could have really interesting conversations with. That's a rare skill in these goldfish days.
What are "goldfish days?" I tried urbandictionary.com, no luck.
 
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