Orange ass-clown Trump wants to take over Gaza, kill all the Palestinians

[Cat]

They are a radicalized population of remorseless savages who need to be caged or put down.

You really do have some radicalised and extremely inhumane ideas.

 

[Rightguide]

Does anyone believe that Gaza will EVER be rebuilt while Hamas and its followers are still there?

No one wants to accept them in their country. There's a reason for that.

 

[RobDownSouth]

They are a radicalized population of remorseless savages who need to be caged or put down.

Israel has have been vilifying Gazans for close to two decades now, forcing them to live at subsistence level and then labeling them as "less than human". (Untermensch).

This makes it easier for low-information folks to rationalize treating Gazans as animals, requiring 'caging' or being 'put down'. It's much much easier when you don't have to, you know, regard them as "human beings".

 

[Hel_Books]

Perhaps I didn't make my question clear. As i think about it, there are several components here:

1. If you believe israel is conducting a genocidal campaign in Gaza (and i recognize some people do not), does protesting what you believe to be genocide reach the threshold of being considered 'anti-Semitic'? (My answer is 'no')
2. Are all Gazans to be considered members of the Hamas political party? i am aware that some people use 'Gazans' and 'Hamas' interchangeably. I believe that not Gazans are Hamas party members or supportes.
3. Does advocating for a 'Free Palestine' or a "Two State solution' mean one is 'Anti-israel' and/or 'anti-Semitic' in your opinion? (my answer is no to both).
4. Is displaying the Palestine flag (the so-called 'watermelon' flag) 'anti-israel' or 'anti-Semitic'? (Again, my answer is 'no' to both.)

I have a very real issue with the United States government attempt to criminalize protests against those who answered 'no' to the above four questions. To me, that represents a direct attack on one of the core values of American democracy, the right to free speech and peaceful protest.

Side note to the Usual Suspects; yes i'm aware that not all political protests are peaceful, but those should be dealt with on an individual basis and resolved in a court of law, not a blanket ban by political fiat (or 'executive order')

I believe I made my position clear in my earlier post. I'm very much in favour of free speech. Go ahead and wave a Hamas flag or a Palestinian flag or a "God Hates Fags" banner or a swastika or a Confederacy stars-and-bars. As long as you're not screaming "Get the Jew!" and smashing windows and dousing walls with red paint, go ahead, protest all you like!

As for your other questions, who knows what's in people's hearts? I'm sure there are plenty of moslems who, in public, say solemnly that they only want to live in peace and they have respect for Israel's right to live in peace and have no desire for violence of any kind . . . and then in private they smirk and post anonymous tweets saying all Jews should be expelled from the middle east or die, or send money to Hamas or Hezbollah or work on home-made pipe bombs.

 

[Hel_Books]

Israel has have been vilifying Gazans for close to two decades now, forcing them to live at subsistence level and then labeling them as "less than human". (Untermensch).

This makes it easier for low-information folks to rationalize treating Gazans as animals, requiring 'caging' or being 'put down'. It's much much easier when you don't have to, you know, regard them as "human beings".

The real fault is with the moslems OUTSIDE Gaza sending bombs and guns and rockets instead of food and medicine and construction supplies to build decent housing (not infiltration tunnels and headquarters under hospitals and schools and mosques!). If Iran and Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria and Jordan and the little rich princedoms in the gulf had spent all that money on peaceful resources, you really would see resort hotels in Gaza instead of fanatics with green bandannas and assault rifles and hostages and bodies of dead Jewish toddlers.

 

[eric_erosfan]

I believe that their religion, being based on intolerance, is the root and sole cause of their evil. Modern Arab nations understand this and do what they can to reduce the damage that it causes. Unfortunately they're limited in what they can do and have to accept because if they anger the most fervent they could be facing an uprising and eventual loss of power.

Lol. I thought you were talking about evangelicals.

 

[Lazaran]

Lol. I thought you were talking about evangelicals.

Same-same…(but the MAGAts will never admit it).

 

[Lazaran]

The real fault is with the moslems OUTSIDE Gaza sending bombs and guns and rockets instead of food and medicine and construction supplies to build decent housing (not infiltration tunnels and headquarters under hospitals and schools and mosques!). If Iran and Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria and Jordan and the little rich princedoms in the gulf had spent all that money on peaceful resources, you really would see resort hotels in Gaza instead of fanatics with green bandannas and assault rifles and hostages and bodies of dead Jewish toddlers.

The Arabs / “moslems” knew what they were / know what they are financing when they fund Hamas, etc:

The deadly gambit of funding terrorism by the Arab / Muslim states / nationals was / is to expel any and all non-Arabs / Muslims (or influence) from the region for two reasons / purposes:

1: Establishing an ideologically homogenous region in the heart of the Middle East for security & stability. (That hasn’t worked out too well so far - and evangelical "Christians" have a similar agenda involving America that is destined to fail as well.)

2: Control of “The Holy Land” (Israel / Jerusalem, etc) due to its value as a religious tourism destination . (A second Mecca is the dream of the Arabs / Muslims in the region - and I also have zero doubts that SOME Israelis would love to monopolize ALL of “The Holy Land” for “reason / purpose #2.)

It is what it is.

I understand it, but I don’t have to like it - and I certainly will NOT help facilitate it.

 

[UltraChad]

Same-same…(but the MAGAts will never admit it).

Claims they are the same, wouldn't DARE step fuckin' foot into a jihadi run shit hole....... but refuses to leave the Christian nations he hates on so much.

 

[HisArpy]

Me: Are you an expert on Islam?
Hisa: No but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express.

Your primary failure is to not understand that everyone, not just "experts," can have an opinion and espouse it.

Which is why you're a lemming and I'm not.

 

[HisArpy]

Lol. I thought you were talking about evangelicals.

I was/am. It's not my fault that you can't see it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Claims they are the same, wouldn't DARE step fuckin' foot into a jihadi run shit hole....... but refuses to leave the Christian nations he hates on so much.

Brave accusations from someone who has never set foot in a 'jihadi run shit hole'.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No one wants to accept them in their country. There's a reason for that.

We disagree....vehemently against your racist views wrongway....

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...assistance-for-gazans-arriving-in-canada.html

 

[RobDownSouth]

I believe I made my position clear in my earlier post. I'm very much in favour of free speech. Go ahead and wave a Hamas flag or a Palestinian flag or a "God Hates Fags" banner or a swastika or a Confederacy stars-and-bars. As long as you're not screaming "Get the Jew!" and smashing windows and dousing walls with red paint, go ahead, protest all you like!

If you pat yourself any harder on the back, I'm certain you'll strain something. Speaking of 'straining', your initial response strained credibility, and claiming your 'made your position clear' is obfuscation at best. I asked you if you personally felt that protesting against the Israeli 'kill them all!' campaign in Gaza should be considered 'criminal' anti-Semitism.

As for your other questions, who knows what's in people's hearts? I'm sure there are plenty of moslems who, in public, say solemnly that they only want to live in peace and they have respect for Israel's right to live in peace and have no desire for violence of any kind . . . and then in private they smirk and post anonymous tweets saying all Jews should be expelled from the middle east or die, or send money to Hamas or Hezbollah or work on home-made pipe bombs.

Ah yes, "tricksy tricksy two-faced moslems (sic), the root cause of all problems...

The real fault is with the moslems OUTSIDE Gaza sending bombs and guns and rockets instead of food and medicine and construction supplies to build decent housing (not infiltration tunnels and headquarters under hospitals and schools and mosques!). If Iran and Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria and Jordan and the little rich princedoms in the gulf had spent all that money on peaceful resources, you really would see resort hotels in Gaza instead of fanatics with green bandannas and assault rifles and hostages and bodies of dead Jewish toddlers.

Ah the old "outside influencer" trope. I noticed you conveniently left out the fact that the Israeli navy has blockaded virtually all imports (food, medicine, construction supplies) to the Gazan people for over 15 years now. Israel has a chokehold around the neck of the people of Gaza, content to slowly but surely strangle them. And yet they are shocked....shocked I tell you!....when the 'prisoners' revolt. (Spare us the rote 'but but they voted for Hamas in 2007!' reply...that dog don't hunt).

And your crass appeal to emotion about the 'bodies of dead Jewish toddlers' smacks of press releases from the Israeli propaganda ministry. (I'm reminded of the breathless Iraq-stealing-incubators-from-Kuwait-leaving-dead-babies stories from 1990, i.e. complete works of fiction).

In any event, the 10:1 casualty ratio of Gazan women and children to Israeli women and children stands on its own against your pearl-clutching about 'dead Jewish toddlers' who may or may not have ever even existed.

In any event, I'll give you one final opportunity to go on record with your opinion as to whether or not peaceful protests against Israel violence (let's assume that the nominal violence at some portion of the Columbia protest was 'wrong') rise to the level of "criminalized free speech and anti-Semitism".

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

If you pat yourself any harder on the back, I'm certain you'll strain something. Speaking of 'straining', your initial response strained credibility, and claiming your 'made your position clear' is obfuscation at best. I asked you if you personally felt that protesting against the Israeli 'kill them all!' campaign in Gaza should be considered 'criminal' anti-Semitism.



Ah yes, "tricksy tricksy two-faced moslems (sic), the root cause of all problems...


Ah the old "outside influencer" trope. I noticed you conveniently left out the fact that the Israeli navy has blockaded virtually all imports (food, medicine, construction supplies) to the Gazan people for over 15 years now. Israel has a chokehold around the neck of the people of Gaza, content to slowly but surely strangle them. And yet they are shocked....shocked I tell you!....when the 'prisoners' revolt. (Spare us the rote 'but but they voted for Hamas in 2007!' reply...that dog don't hunt).

And your crass appeal to emotion about the 'bodies of dead Jewish toddlers' smacks of press releases from the Israeli propaganda ministry. (I'm reminded of the breathless Iraq-stealing-incubators-from-Kuwait-leaving-dead-babies stories from 1990, i.e. complete works of fiction).

In any event, the 10:1 casualty ratio of Gazan women and children to Israeli women and children stands on its own against your pearl-clutching about 'dead Jewish toddlers' who may or may not have ever even existed.

In any event, I'll give you one final opportunity to go on record with your opinion as to whether or not peaceful protests against Israel violence (let's assume that the nominal violence at some portion of the Columbia protest was 'wrong') rise to the level of "criminalized free speech and anti-Semitism".

The protests at Columbia supporting genocide were violent.

 

[coati]

So, Trump's peace plan for Gaza is to give Netanyahu carte blanche to wipe out the Palestinians there and turn it into a tacky vacation resort. It's a hostile real estate grab that someday can benefit the Trump family.

And his peace plan for Ukraine is to give Putin carte blanche to seize the land they have illegally and violently taken so far and leave the door open for Putin to take even more land in eastern Europe. It's a hostile real estate grab that someday can benefit the Trump family.

The art of the steal. And who cares if it causes even more resentment and war?

 

[Bn2f]

Your primary failure is to not understand that everyone, not just "experts," can have an opinion and espouse it.

Which is why you're a lemming and I'm not.

The “experts” I base most of what I say are called scientists. You’re an idiot. Your track record speaks for itself here. You came back but none the wiser. Not my fault you repeat an age old adage incorrectly and make yourself out to sound even dumber than you already are.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The protests at Columbia supporting genocide were violent.

Some were. I already stipulated that and that those were beyond "peaceful".

 

[coati]

The protests at Columbia supporting genocide were violent.

The genocide in Gaza is violent.

 

[coati]

The protests at Columbia supporting genocide were violent.

Which genocide are you talking about?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Which genocide are you talking about?

Most pro-Palestinian protests call for the eradication of the Jews from their ancestral homeland. That’s genocidal.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The genocide in Gaza is violent.

Yes October 7th was very violent. Fortunately the Arabs are too weak to carry out their agenda of killing all the Jews in Israel.

 

[HisArpy]

So, Trump's peace plan for Gaza is to give Netanyahu carte blanche to wipe out the Palestinians there and turn it into a tacky vacation resort. It's a hostile real estate grab that someday can benefit the Trump family.

And his peace plan for Ukraine is to give Putin carte blanche to seize the land they have illegally and violently taken so far and leave the door open for Putin to take even more land in eastern Europe. It's a hostile real estate grab that someday can benefit the Trump family.

The art of the steal. And who cares if it causes even more resentment and war?

Someone needs to read up on why the US allowed the buffalo to be slaughtered wholesale. Hint: It wasn't for the meat, hides, bones. That slaughter resulted in starvation for the Native Americans who were then forced to surrender and agree to peace.

War is the same thing - destroy the enemy's food supplies and national/societal resources until they have no other choice except to surrender and agree to peace.

Hamas is about to find out how much their surrender is going to cost them.

 

[coati]

Most pro-Palestinian protests call for the eradication of the Jews from their ancestral homeland. That’s genocidal.

It is mutually genocidal at this point.

My question to you was rhetorical. Netanyahu left a door open (in the form of a cheap unguarded chain link gate) for a cheap and violent attack by Hamas. It then escalated into Netanyahu's excuse for wiping out a huge civilian population in Gaza.

You are sheltered from that grand scale of carnage in your Los Angeles condo. Trump is making the situation even worse.

 

[eric_erosfan]

Yes October 7th was very violent. Fortunately the Arabs are too weak to carry out their agenda of killing all the Jews in Israel.

I personally think all the kikes and the ragheads are nearly equally shitty human beings. And the planet would be better without both.

So give them equal weaponry and let them kill each other off.