DOGE is interfering with Social Security payments

[BrightShinyGirl]

Recipients are warned to prepare for benefits to be cut off in the next few months.

 

[Noitall]

Lets see

A Dumoh that ran for Dumoh head

Says so

It MUST be true

 

[RobDownSouth]

Recipients are warned to prepare for benefits to be cut off in the next few months.

The consequences of delaying social security checks would signal the end of MAGA in America.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The consequences of delaying social security checks would signal the end of MAGA in America.

It should signal the end of the Republican Party. We're getting closer and closer to President Hakeem Jeffries.

 

[Saint_Ann]

That's a lot of hysteria and conjecture put forth by the disposed head of SS.

For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated and may not be affected...

 

[RoryN]

For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated and may not be affected...

https://i.imgur.com/cfHWsse.gif

They wouldn't be affected because...they're "automated"?

You really ought to just stick to posting your triggered butthurt, because your attempts at actual counterarguments contain some profoundly dumb logic.

 

[Noitall]

It should signal the end of the Republican Party. We're getting closer and closer to President Hakeem Jeffries.

 

[Saint_Ann]

https://i.imgur.com/cfHWsse.gif

They wouldn't be affected because...they're "automated"?

You really ought to just stick to posting your triggered butthurt, because your attempts at actual counterarguments contain some profoundly dumb logic.

It's a quote from the article that you obviously didn't read.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Roary will have to send an email to Elon every month explaining how many memes he posted about himself.

 

[RoryN]

For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated

It's a quote from the article

= you weren't thinking on your own / for yourself.

Thanks for clarifying. We guessed as much.

 

[Saint_Ann]

= you weren't thinking on your own.

Thanks for clarifying. We guessed as much.

Your SS check will be just fine. Your Medicaid might not be.

 

[Rightguide]

Recipients are warned to prepare for benefits to be cut off in the next few months.

Yes, no SS payments to dead people.

 

[Chernosoth]

If the bureaucrats are ever not pissed off enough, Trump could rename it National Social Security.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Yes, no SS payments to dead people.

That was debunked in your own thread, Jack. Why do you do this to yourself?

 

[Lazaran]

That's a lot of hysteria and conjecture put forth by the disposed head of SS.

For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated and may not be affected...

Saint_Ann Syndrome rears its ugly battered head…again…



The actual quote:

“For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated and may not be affected, she said. However, processing new claims — whether it be for retirement or disability benefits — may take longer since those cannot be processed without Social Security employees, Hornick said.”



Still a significant potential problem with all the babyboomers retiring and those who suddenly require Social Security disability compensation, no???



And “MAY NOT be affected” does NOT mean WILL NOT be affected.



Hope that ^ helps.



Saint_Ann Syndrome



Also:

We. Told. You. So.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yes, no SS payments to dead people.

How do they cash them? Direct deposit to the grave? General delivery Heaven?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Lol. A former SS commissioner said payments “could be at risk”

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Lol. A former SS commissioner said payments “could be at risk”

As I understand it, the system runs on COBOL. I took some basic programming on it back in the 70's in University ( along with Fortrans and even BASIC). It's a very old archaic system from 1959. It does not handle automation well, and integration with modern computer programs are time consuming and difficult.

I'm sure it will keep on spitting out cheques for the near future. What it won't do is change anything. If you die, it will still send a cheque. If it breaks down, no one will get a cheque....a very efficient system!!

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...p&cvid=693b88d46f8f4a5385fb5f070172fd6c&ei=15

DOGE—the Shadow OPM

• The Office of Personnel Management quietly revised a memo about firing probationary employees.
• The update specifies that OPM can't fire workers in other agencies and follows a recent court ruling.
• It's unclear if this impacts the thousands of probationary employees who have already been fired.

OPM sent agencies' chief human capital officers an email about the new memo, saying that it is "aware of recent litigation challenging the terminations of various probationary employees in different departments of the federal government," according to a copy reviewed by BI.

"The revised memorandum clarifies and confirms that OPM has not directed, and is not directing, your agency to take specific performance-based actions against probationary employees," the email says. It is signed by the "CHCO Council."

Thousands of probationary employees — typically people with less than two years of experience in their roles — have already been fired. It's not clear whether they will be re-hired under the new guidance.

Removed from the original memo: it was originally designated that emails be sent both to the general OPM listing AND to Amanda Scales, OPM's chief of staff—who is associated with the White House DOGE Office; the DOGE reference has now been removed, leaving only the general OPM address.

Does sound a little like distancing itself from musk's clusterfuck (has Amy Gleason returned from Mexico?), or is it, perhaps, a rewriting to scrub musk from the equation even as the OPM 'defends' itself from memos sent out earlier under its name because of musk.in order to protect him and muddy the waters?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

As I understand it, the system runs on COBOL. I took some basic programming on it back in the 70's in University ( along with Fortrans and even BASIC). It's a very old archaic system from 1959. It does not handle automation well, and integration with modern computer programs are time consuming and difficult.

I'm sure it will keep on spitting out cheques for the near future. What it won't do is change anything. If you die, it will still send a cheque. If it breaks down, no one will get a cheque....a very efficient system!!

Yes, I took COBOL in college too. I’m sure the IRS has known for years that it’s an antiquated language. I haven’t seen any information pertaining to the system architecture or to what extent if any it depends on COBOL code. If appropriate steps have not been taken to ensure system reliability and redundancy, that would represent a failure that would hang on every president since Reagan.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes, I took COBOL in college too. I’m sure the IRS has known for years that it’s an antiquated language. I haven’t seen any information pertaining to the system architecture or to what extent if any it depends on COBOL code. If appropriate steps have not been taken to ensure system reliability and redundancy, that would represent a failure that would hang on every president since Reagan.

BabyBoobs apparently forgets that President Biden secured FUNDING for the IRS (the funding was NOT for 87,000 new IRS agents to audit average Americans) to modernize it and make it more EFFICIENT…until President Musk (and DonOld & the REPUBLICANS) gutted those funds.

Here, let me help BabyBoobs’ memory:

From an article in Clemson News:

“The Internal Revenue Service has ramped up its efforts to recover unpaid taxes from millionaires. It collected more than US$1.1 billion from 1,600 wealthy Americanswith known but unpaid tax debts in the 2024 fiscal year, up from just $38 million a year earlier.

This boost in tax revenue occurred because of the Inflation Reduction Act, which President Joe Biden signed into law in 2022. It originally allocated $80 billion in new funding for the IRS over 10 years. Congress later reduced that sum to $60 billion.

The goal of this funding was twofold: to boost enforcement efforts and to improve the taxpayer experience by modernizing outdated systems and hiring additional staff. The IRS, which processes 267 million tax returns and collects $5.1 trillion in tax revenues annually, had long been operating with limited resources.





Hope that ^ helps.



BabyBoobs

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

BabyBoobs apparently forgets that President Biden secured FUNDING for the IRS (the funding was NOT for 87,000 new IRS agents to audit average Americans) to modernize it and make it more EFFICIENT…until President Musk (and DonOld & the REPUBLICANS) gutted those funds.

Here, let me help BabyBoobs’ memory:

From an article in Clemson News:

“The Internal Revenue Service has ramped up its efforts to recover unpaid taxes from millionaires. It collected more than US$1.1 billion from 1,600 wealthy Americanswith known but unpaid tax debts in the 2024 fiscal year, up from just $38 million a year earlier.

This boost in tax revenue occurred because of the Inflation Reduction Act, which President Joe Biden signed into law in 2022. It originally allocated $80 billion in new funding for the IRS over 10 years. Congress later reduced that sum to $60 billion.

The goal of this funding was twofold: to boost enforcement efforts and to improve the taxpayer experience by modernizing outdated systems and hiring additional staff. The IRS, which processes 267 million tax returns and collects $5.1 trillion in tax revenues annually, had long been operating with limited resources.





Hope that ^ helps.



BabyBoobs

Ok, I won’t blame Biden if Elon stops SS checks. lol

 

[Lazaran]

Ok, I won’t blame Biden if Elon stops SS checks. lol

Apology accepted, BabyBoobs.

Glad I could help.



BabyBoobs

 

[RobDownSouth]

Ok, I won’t blame Biden if Elon stops SS checks. lol

You're not making any sense.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yes, I took COBOL in college too. I’m sure the IRS has known for years that it’s an antiquated language. I haven’t seen any information pertaining to the system architecture or to what extent if any it depends on COBOL code. If appropriate steps have not been taken to ensure system reliability and redundancy, that would represent a failure that would hang on every president since Reagan.

It's an acknowledged problem.

https://oig.ssa.gov/audit-reports/modernize-information-technology/index.html

One now DOGE IMHO has completely fucked up. Trust me, Canada is still sorting out the "Phoenix pay system" an IBM disaster our government bought into....Billions lost on it. If you had to pay for it, on your scale in America it would be Trillions.