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Trump fucks up again. Ukraine negotiation goes sideways

ll74 said:
They are still fighting.

Russia is still invading.

Nothing has stopped, you dipshit
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Fuck off clown. You have no clue. They don't have enough men to maintain a counter offensive the survivors for the most part are in static positions.
 
ll74 said:
The fighting is still going on.
Russia is still invading
Ukraine is still defending.

This is a fact


The Russian war has NOT STOPPED.
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Ukraine's ability tp prosecute war effectively has been stopped. Every month the Russian's gain more ground as the Ukrainians are forced to give ground for lack of men and equipment. The pathetic Europeans could if they had a conscience repay the United States for defending them for last 80 years by taking on the full cost of the defense of Ukraine themselves. They are rich enough in wealth and resources and have the capacity to do so. They have nursed off the American tit for too long. It's time for their men to find themselves and stand up.
 
Rightguide said:
Ukraine's ability tp prosecute war effectively has been stopped.
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They decide when to stop fighting, not Putin , not you

Rightguide said:
Every month the Russian's gain more ground as the Ukrainians are forced to give ground for lack of men and equipment.
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They've actually lost ground in the last month.

Rightguide said:
The pathetic Europeans could if they had a conscience repay the United States for defending them for last 80 years by taking on the full cost of the defense of Ukraine themselves. They are rich enough in wealth and resources and have the capacity to do so. They have nursed off the American tit for too long. It's time for their men to find themselves and stand up.
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Your desire for capitulation to Russia continues to be demonstrated.
 
ll74 said:
They decide when to stop fighting, not Putin , not you


They've actually lost ground in the last month.


Your desire for capitulation to Russia continues to be demonstrated.
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I never said a word about capitulation to Russia, not one. We are under no legal obligation to defend Ukraine, none. We are not required by any legal agreement to take any disrespectful shit from the little dictator either.
 
Rightguide said:
I never said a word about capitulation to Russia
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Lol, what do you think your god guy is negotiating?
Rightguide said:
We are under no legal obligation to defend Ukraine, none. We are not required by any legal agreement to take any disrespectful shit from the little dictator either.
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I've never mentioned laws.

We help them defend themselves because it's the ethical and moral thing to do.

We side with Russia because it's the immoral thing to do.
 
Rightguide said:
Ukraine's ability tp prosecute war effectively has been stopped. Every month the Russian's gain more ground as the Ukrainians are forced to give ground for lack of men and equipment. The pathetic Europeans could if they had a conscience repay the United States for defending them for last 80 years by taking on the full cost of the defense of Ukraine themselves. They are rich enough in wealth and resources and have the capacity to do so. They have nursed off the American tit for too long. It's time for their men to find themselves and stand up.
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You won't get good information from Breitbart or OANN.

Ukraine has been counter-attacking and has actually encroached into what was previously Russia. Ukraine has certainly not been stopped. President Zelenskyy has no need to surrender either to Putin or Trump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682
 
And Mike Johnson stands up and shows us all how out of touch he is......Zelensky is a leader Trump can'tpush around. He's stoodup to Putin for three years. He's npt going to roll over for a blustering loudmouth. Let me put it this way. 85% of Russian kills are carried out by drones. Ukraine makes 96% of their drones. They are doubling or perhaos even tripling production this year. The EU is stepping up funding, including funding for the Ukrainian defense industry. Trump does not have the leverage he thinks he has. And he's antagonized most of Europe into the bargain. Good one, Donny.

House speaker suggests Ukrainians vote in different leadership after Zelenskyy refuses Trump’s deal​

Ain't how it works, Mike. Zelensky is the President of Ukraine and will be until after the war and a sunsequent election. As per the Ukrainian Constitution. Right now he's at 95% approval in Ukraine.

The real issue is that Trump and Vance are being completely unrealistic.

"House Speaker Mike Johnson said Sunday that “something has to change” if Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskyy continues to thwart President Trump’s push for a peace deal with Russia." Yep, Trump will have to grow up and take no for an answer. Zelensky has already laid out Ukraine's position. Trump can listen, and adapt, or he can stand back and get out of the way.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...nge-ukraines-volodymyr-zelenskyy-doesnt-come/
 
Rightguide said:
Ukraine's ability tp prosecute war effectively has been stopped. Every month the Russian's gain more ground as the Ukrainians are forced to give ground for lack of men and equipment. The pathetic Europeans could if they had a conscience repay the United States for defending them for last 80 years by taking on the full cost of the defense of Ukraine themselves. They are rich enough in wealth and resources and have the capacity to do so. They have nursed off the American tit for too long. It's time for their men to find themselves and stand up.
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Getting desperate eh wrongway? Russia's running out of capital, their economy is about hit stagflation. Worried about your pay cheque?
 
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