For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

No she admitted she was wrong about what she thought Trump would do in regards to Ukraine. Not that she was wrong about voting for Trump, she's still cheer leading on the other fronts.
Oh fuck off. She said she was wrong about his foreign policy.. multiple times here.

If you want to be a pedantic fuckhead, that's your issue.

Laz was wrong.... I pointed it out. There is nothing gained by your argument
 
Oh fuck off. She said she was wrong about his foreign policy.. multiple times here.

If you want to be a pedantic fuckhead, that's your issue.
Words matter, and Chloe is a writer. She said "she thought"....She voted for Trump, fuck her. I have no forgiveness to offer a dumb cunt like that. You wish to, that's your right. Just don't expect me or Laz or a multitude of other to behave the same as you.
 
Words matter, and Chloe is a writer. She voted for Trump, fuck her. I have no forgiveness to offer a dumb cunt like that. You wish to, that's your right. Just don't expect me or Laz or a multitude of other to behave the same as you.
Fuck off.

Nobody asked for your forgiveness.
 
Publicly, we have capitulated to Russia.

Whether you believe someone is playing 4d chess in private is not my issue.

There is absolutely nothing that forgives what 47 has done in regards to Russia in the public sphere. He has bent over and taken it in the ass from Putin. That is what he has done.
Bullshit. Have you ever been involved in a real negotiation? This isn’t about finger-pointing or scoring moral victories. it’s about making peace. You don’t bring people to the table by hurling accusations or insisting on one-sided blame. A successful negotiation focuses on the future, not just the past, and requires taking the concerns of both sides seriously. The goal isn’t to punish, but to find a workable solution, one that acknowledges realities, builds common ground, and moves everyone forward.
 
Bullshit. Have you ever been involved in a real negotiation? This isn’t about finger-pointing or scoring moral victories. it’s about making peace. You don’t bring people to the table by hurling accusations or insisting on one-sided blame. A successful negotiation focuses on the future, not just the past, and requires taking the concerns of both sides seriously. The goal isn’t to punish, but to find a workable solution, one that acknowledges realities, builds common ground, and moves everyone forward.
You're wrong.
 
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang will NOT admit they were WRONG, and they will go on pretending that “no one knew” what would happen once President Musk (and DonOld) took office.

🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
Your dumb fuck racism is noted.
 
Bullshit. Have you ever been involved in a real negotiation? This isn’t about finger-pointing or scoring moral victories. it’s about making peace. You don’t bring people to the table by hurling accusations or insisting on one-sided blame. A successful negotiation focuses on the future, not just the past, and requires taking the concerns of both sides seriously. The goal isn’t to punish, but to find a workable solution, one that acknowledges realities, builds common ground, and moves everyone forward.
Every time I think you hit rock bottom, you dig another level deeper.
 
Well you sure fooled me......*chuckles*
Not difficult to do.

An incorrect statement was what I pointed out. You created a narrative around the statement based on your bias that wasn't there.

I've not defended anyone.
 
Publicly, we have capitulated to Russia.

Whether you believe someone is playing 4d chess in private is not my issue.

There is absolutely nothing that forgives what 47 has done in regards to Russia in the public sphere. He has bent over and taken it in the ass from Putin. That is what he has done.
Alright you tell me what Trump's first move should be in this "negotiation."
 
Bullshit. Have you ever been involved in a real negotiation? This isn’t about finger-pointing or scoring moral victories. it’s about making peace. You don’t bring people to the table by hurling accusations or insisting on one-sided blame. A successful negotiation focuses on the future, not just the past, and requires taking the concerns of both sides seriously. The goal isn’t to punish, but to find a workable solution, one that acknowledges realities, builds common ground, and moves everyone forward.
American Revolutionary war, American Civil war, First Boer war, Second Boer war, Korea and Vietnam, all have the same thing in common about their ending. Can you guess what wrongway?
 
Not difficult to do.
True, but sadly you failed to.
An incorrect statement was what I pointed out. You created a narrative around the statement based on your bias that wasn't there.
I never created anything. I'll be back to past in where she said it first, unfortunately I can't quote it, and all yours at the same time.
I've not defended anyone.
Sure you didn't
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang will NOT admit they were WRONG, and they will go on pretending that “no one knew” what would happen once President Musk (and DonOld) took office.

🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷

She admitted she was wrong. Multiple times in this thread.

And you think that makes her what? She voted for Trump, she owns this.....fuck her if she's sorry about it. People are dying because of who she voted for. She can own that.

I'm not saying she is anything.

I'm simply pointing out the incorrect statement.

What you are pointing out, is she said she was wrong about what Trump would do about Ukraine. If you think that makes her any less wrong, that's you're right. Laz doesn't, and neither do I.

She admitted she was wrong about 47.
That is what I'm pointing out.

Laz said she didn't do so.

I don't give a fuck about your other horseshit.

No she admitted she was wrong about what she thought Trump would do in regards to Ukraine. Not that she was wrong about voting for Trump, she's still cheerleading on the other fronts.

Oh fuck off. She said she was wrong about his foreign policy.. multiple times here.

If you want to be a pedantic fuckhead, that's your issue.

Laz was wrong.... I pointed it out. There is nothing gained by your argument

Words matter, and Chloe is a writer. She said "she thought"....She voted for Trump, fuck her. I have no forgiveness to offer a dumb cunt like that. You wish to, that's your right. Just don't expect me or Laz or a multitude of other to behave the same as you.

Fuck off.

Nobody asked for your forgiveness.


Nobody gives a fuck whether you forgive them for their comments or actions.

Then why are you here defending her? That's kind of contradictory to the above.

I'm not defending her. Being a pedantic one, I'd expect you understand that.

Well you sure fooled me......*chuckles*
 
They are already at the table.

Ukraine is not at the table because the US left them out.
They have not started in earnest yet, Trump has spoken to Putin, he's spoken to Zelensky, and he's spoken to key European leaders on how to procede.
 
True, but sadly you failed to.
Nope

I never created anything. I'll be back to past in where she said it first, unfortunately I can quote it, and all yours at the same time.
Laz lied. I pointed that out. Chloe never said "no one knew". She has said she was wrong about what she thought would result multiple times in this thread.

Sure you didn't
Nothing I've said defends her. Laz lied. Plain and simple.

You can post whatever notes you need to come to terms with being wrong.
 
They have not started in earnest yet, Trump has spoken to Putin, he's spoken to Zelensky, and he's spoken to key European leaders on how to procede.
Russia is literally having talks with the US administration in Saudi Arabia.

I.e. - "at the table"
 
Russia is literally having talks with the US administration in Saudi Arabia.

I.e. - "at the table"
Yes on how to proceed in Ukrainian peace talks. We have to know the positions of both sides to have those talks.
 
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