If you don't want Trump tainted with Project 2025, help out a little!

[UltraChad]

Nothing in P2025 is good for the country. It's cancer.

Exact opposite is true, Democrats are the cancer. And they're currently being excised like a malignant tumor.

 

[Politruk]

Exact opposite is true, Democrats are the cancer. And they're currently being excised like a malignant tumor.

Name one thing in P2025 that's good for the country.

 

[UltraChad]

Name one thing in P2025 that's good for the country.

Most of it.

I have yet to see anything I can really disagree with.

 

[Politruk]

Most of it.

I have yet to see anything I can really disagree with.

I've listed a lot of its elements in this thread, and not a single one of them is even not bad for the country.

 

[UltraChad]

I've listed a lot of its elements in this thread, and not a single one of them is even not bad for the country.

From the insane psycho-commie perspective I suppose not.

For the more liberal (actual liberal not social liberal) minded American who doesn't HATE the USA existing...it's pretty good.

 

[Politruk]

From the insane psycho-commie perspective I suppose not.

For the more liberal (actual liberal not social liberal) minded American who doesn't HATE the USA existing...it's pretty good.

Pick any item and argue for it.

Libertarian is not liberal.

 

[UltraChad]

Pick any item and argue for it.

You are the one chomping for it.

You pick the item.

Libertarian is not liberal.

Yes it is, so is classical liberalism, so is neoliberalism, anarchism even is arguably a type of liberalism.

Liberalism is not defined by it being socialist and authoritarian enough for YOUR personal liking.

 

[Politruk]

You are the one chomping for it.

You pick the item.

This cannot possibly be good for the country:

It took a long struggle in American history to replace the spoils system of patronage jobs in the federal civil service, as post-election rewards for the winner's supporters, with a professional, job-protected, politically independent civil service. Achieved by the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883.

Project 2025 would roll that back significantly -- vastly reducing the number of civil-service jobs and increasing the number of patronage jobs filled by the president's choice.

I've often heard it said RWs want turn back the clock to 1955.

But to 1882?!

Come on, PB RWs! This is your chance to show us you're NOT that stupid!

We don't need the pre-1883 patronage system back. We need a nonpartisan professional civil service that focuses on carrying out the agencies' missions as intended by Congress, and enjoys a recognized sphere of autonomy from the White House, an immunity to political pressure, like judges have.

 

[Politruk]

This can't be good for the country either:

The section on Christian nationalism says the next conservative president, on military policy, must "set defeating the threat of the Chinese Communist Party as its highest priority."

OK, they're just making that up, right?! Not even Heritage is that crazy!

 

[Politruk]

Nor this:

The section on "Children" -- is this for real?! They want to defund Sesame Street because it's "biased to the left"?!

 

[Politruk]

The text of Project2025 is very mealy-mouthed. For example, in the section on 'Education',
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-11.pdf (P322)


Obviously there is no definition of 'critical race theory', so whatever the objection it can be disregarded. The entire thing is as disingenuous as Trump's denial. You'd have to be dimmer than the average poorly-educated MAGAT to believe him.

Interpreting the above line as the MAGATs have done consistently, all mention of slavery and the involvement of the Confederation will be deleted from public school education.

P.342,


So in the same period as Americans have notably failed to vote for a black President (Trumps support collapsed by 3 million votes, and the Dem vote by a far greater amount), the proposition that America is racist is defined as 'false', no argument.



There we have it, the Government Thought Police in your schools.

And this is bad for the country, for sure.

 

[Politruk]

And this is fucking dangerous, especially with a bird flu pandemic on the horizon!

I really hope they're not serious about this:

Vaccines and masking[edit]​

See the main articles on this topic: Anti-vaccination movement and Face masks
Severino, while not himself overtly antivax, has written that the Centers for Disease Control should not be allowed to ever say what people should do:[25]:454

…or example, never again should CDC officials be allowed to say in their official capacity that school children “should be” masked or vaccinated (through a schedule or otherwise) or prohibited from learning in a school building.

 

[Politruk]

And this would do nothing but harm:

Well, I hope they were only blowing smoke about this bit:

Department of Education[edit]​

The people behind Project 2025 consider the Department of Education "a convenient one-stop shop for the woke education cartel…"[25]:285 Lindsey M. Burke, author of the chapter on the Department of Education, wants it to be abolished,[25]:319 and want control of education "returned" to the states.[25]:319-362 Severino wants to eliminate the federally-funded Head Start preschool program based on the false claims that it is ineffective and "fraught with scandal".[25]:482[84][25]:326

This chapter includes a section on "parental rights", which focuses on the rights of parents to cover up child abuse effectively, force transgender and queer children to present as cisgender, and prevent their children from being taught whatever the Heritage Foundation thinks critical race theory is. This section also states that "Federal lawmakers should not allow public school employees to keep secrets about a child from that child’s parents."[25]:346 How this would be accomplished is unclear.

Ultimately, Severino advocates for reducing the Department of Education to "a statistics-gathering agency that disseminates information to the states."[25]:325 This would mean no federal funding of education, and no enforcement of sex- and gender-based anti-discriminatory policies such as is currently mandated under Title IX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png
[25]:331[20]

 

[Politruk]

Og knows we don't need this:

Also this:

Department of Labor[edit]​

Jonathan Berry wrote the chapter on the Department of Labor,[25]:581-617 filling it with frequent references to Christian nationalist rhetoric (e.g., "The Judeo-Christian tradition, stretching back to Genesis, has always recognized fruitful work as integral to human dignity, as service to God, neighbor, and family.")[25]:581 Berry wants Congress to clarify Title VII of the Civil Act of 1964 such that "religious organization exemptions to make it more explicit that those employers may make employment decisions based on religion regardless of nondiscrimination laws."[25]:586 This would essentially eviscerate the act, removing the right of any person to utilize services that are open to the public.

 

[Politruk]

And really not this:

And I sure hope they were only kidding about this:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_2025#Department_of_Energy

an people elect a conservative president, his administration will have to eradicate climate change references from absolutely everywhere.[/TD]
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[TD]—Bethany Kozma, former deputy chief of staff at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) in the Trump administration in a previously-secret Project 2025 training video[85][/TD]

McNamee as Federal Energy Regulations Commissioner during the Trump administration
Bernard McNamee wrote the section "Department of Energy and Related Commissions".[25]:363-416 Project 2025's plan on climate can essentially be considered as a massive "fuck you" to the Earth's biosphere and every single effort done by anyone to reduce climate change over the last 50 years, as the plan recommends increasing usage of more natural gas (such as methane), convince allied nations to use more fossil fuels, and shuttering the loans program office at the Department of Energy. They also intend to reverse the 2009 EPA finding on carbon dioxide affecting human health. McNamee was previously an advisor at several fossil fuel companies, so this shouldn't come off as exactly surprising. Pretty much making the climate worse for everyone to "own da libs."[86]
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[Politruk]

And this is just stupid and pointless:

And then there's this:

Department of Commerce[edit]​

Thomas F. Gilman wrote the chapter on the Department of Commerce.[25]:663-689 Gilman advocated for the elimination of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), while claiming that AccuWeather is more reliable than those of the National Weather Service (NWS is part of NOAA).[25]:675 Gilman cited AccuWeather itself for this claim but the citation leads to an Accuweather PR release[87] The link to the full report from the PR release just redirect to the main AccuWeather website, and no archive of the full report seems to exist. Not coincidentally, Accuweather's CEO, Barry Myers, was appointed by Trump to lead the NWS in 2017 despite lacking any relevant academic qualifications.[88] Despite the claims of being most accurate, AccuWeather depends heavily on NWS data, and independent sources have reported on the inaccuracy of AccuWeather forecasts.[89][90][91]

 

[Politruk]

^^^^^^^ Nothing, not one thing, is even not bad for the country. ^^^^^^^

 

[Politruk]

Yet another thing bad for the country.

 

[UltraChad]

It's all good.

The "Christian nationalism" bit was funny....I love when you guys cry about that, almost as much as when you start bitching about those FUCKING WHTIE PEOPLE and god damn men who are clearly the PROBLEM with EVERYTHING!!!

You're just mad it's not anti-American, anti-white, anti-Christian communism.

You lost the democracy game bud....cry more.

 

[Bray123]

It's all good.

The "Christian nationalism" bit was funny....I love when you guys cry about that, almost as much as when you start bitching about those FUCKING WHTIE PEOPLE and god damn men who are clearly the PROBLEM with EVERYTHING!!!

You're just mad it's not anti-American, anti-white, anti-Christian communism.

You lost the democracy game bud....cry more.

Educate yourself.

 

[UltraChad]

Educate yourself.

I have, that's why I'm not some self loathing cuck Democrat woke-tard oozing white guilt and shame.

 

[Bray123]

I have, that's why I'm not some self loathing cuck Democrat woke-tard oozing white guilt and shame.

Reading Jim Hoft postings is not educating yourself.

 

[UltraChad]

Reading Jim Hoft postings is not educating yourself.

Never said it was.

Did you have a point or are you just mad someone's not a USA loathing communist turd like you??

 

[Bray123]

Never said it was.

Did you have a point or are you just mad someone's not a USA loathing communist turd like you??

And neither is shooting cans in your mom's back yard.

 

[UltraChad]

And neither is shooting cans in your mom's back yard.

Haven't done that in 30 years.... just swinging away in the dark aren't ya??