This is what fascism is

[Politruk]

Fascism is based on Palingenetic ultranationalistic populism.

Palingenetic means rebirth or regeneration, more specifically a cleansing such. Once the unwanted elements are washed away, eliminated, or destroyed the remaining old core will bring about a new dawn and reach their proper place.

Ultranationalistic means that the nation, its traditions, and the corresponding sense of unity is paramount. This means that it isn't really possible to import fascism to one country from another—each nation must have its own, and it will express itself in different ways.

Populism means appeal to the masses, usually by appeals to feelings, "common sense", revanchism, or disenfranchisement, and the assertion that the speaker is the true representative of the masses. Often the established elites are the target for this. However, populism in this regard carries a highly elitist core, since the masses are not expected to themselves influence the (self-appointed) leader; they are to follow.

That shoe fits the Trump movement.

It also fits the Reagan Revolution, if anyone can remember back that far.

 

[Politruk]

Fascism:

Attempts at a definition[edit]​

It's rather difficult to pin down an exact definition of what fascism actually means, as it was originally a very fluid ideology cobbled together by Mussolini based on whatever he thought would be popular in post-1918 Italy.[10] Ian Kershaw (a historian on the subject) wrote on this issue, that "trying to define 'fascism' is like trying to nail jelly to the wall."[11]:228 Another difficulty arises from the fact that successful fascist politicians often ignored the promises and documents they made before coming to power.[12] However, fascism has some general characteristics: militaristic and often expansionist nationalism (e.g., irredentism), contempt for the democratic process, contempt for both capitalist democracy and leftist socialism, a belief in a natural hierarchy (e.g. caste), and a desire to subordinate individual interests to the will of the dictator.[13] It also often demands a "cleansing" of "inferior" individuals and ethnic groups who are not seen as contributing to a unified society.

In the 1920s and 1930s, communists came to lump all their radical opponents together under the label of "fascist" (alongside "imperialist"), and conversely to regard their fascist enemies as defenders of capitalism. In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler described both capitalism and socialism as two sides of the same coin (both being allegedly controlled by Jews),[14] and most of fascism's reputation as a right-wing philosophy came from its staunch anti-communism, nationalism, and reactionary social views. Nonetheless, after 1925, its economic program was broadly populist and called for heavy state-intervention in the economy, albeit both Mussolini's fascists and Hitler's Nazis were supported and funded by capitalists, and their economic policies were distinctly pro-corporatist (although varying fascist movements' relations to capitalism and socialism varied).[15]

From this line of thinking was born the recent addition to the vernacular of using "fascist" as a snarl word (from both the left and right) to refer to any opponent,[16] a practice which has proliferated to the point that the word fascist has lost all meaning in the historical sense.[note 3] Some on the right have also used 'cultural Marxist' or 'communist' as a snarl word against any opponent.

According to Jason Stanley, the one invariable of fascism is a nostalgic appeal to the mythic past, including the idealized patriarchal family.[17]:3-4 The idealization of the patriarchal family is necessary to support the idea of a patriarchal national leadership in fascism.[17]:4 In both Nazi Germany and fascist Italy, the past was intentionally mythical:[17]:5[18]


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[TD]“”We have created our myth. The myth is a faith, a passion. It is not necessary for it to be a reality. It is a reality in the sense that it is a stimulus, is hope, is faith, is courage. Our myth is the nation, our myth is the greatness of the nation! And to this myth, this greatness, which we want to translate into a total reality, we subordinate everything else.[/TD]
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[TD]—Benito Mussolini, 1922[/TD]
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Such mythologizing of patriarchy and the family finds expression in Kinder, Küche, Kirche, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and anti-abortion.[17]:7-8,135-137

 

[Randomguy126]

This is how you spell idiot

 

[Politruk]

See also:

According to Fascists​

For what it's worth, Benito Mussolini and the other early Italian fascists tried to pin down what their movement was about. In Mussolini's The Doctrine of Fascismhttps://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/external_link.gif (co-written with Giovanni Gentile), he outlined Fascism as a fundamentally totalitarian ideology. In his own words, Fascism was state-centric in nature:

Here I wish to reaffirm with no weaker energy, the formula I expounded at the scala in Milan everything in the state, nothing against the State, nothing outside the state.


The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative. Individuals and groups are admissible in so far as they come within the State. Instead of directing the game and guiding the material and moral progress of the community, the liberal State restricts its activities to recording results.
Militaristic and pro-war:

War alone keys up all human energies to their maximum tension and sets the seal of nobility on those peoples who have the courage to face it. All other tests are substitutes which never place a man face to face with himself before the alternative of life or death. Therefore all doctrines which postulate peace at all costs are incompatible with Fascism.
Anti-liberal and anti-individualism:

It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual


Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and the economic sphere. The importance of liberalism in the XIXth century should not be exaggerated for present day polemical purposes, nor should we make of one of the many doctrines which flourished in that century a religion for mankind for the present and for all time to come.
Anti-socialist and anti-communist:

Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle.


Such a conception of life makes Fascism the resolute negation of the doctrine underlying so-called scientific and Marxian socialism, the doctrine of historic materialism which would explain the history of mankind in terms of the class struggle and by changes in the processes and instruments of production, to the exclusion of all else.
And lastly, futurist:

The Fascist negation of socialism, democracy, liberalism, should not, however, be interpreted as implying a desire to drive the world backwards to positions occupied prior to 1789, a year commonly referred to as that which opened the demo-liberal century. History does not travel backwards. The Fascist doctrine has not taken De Maistre as its prophet. Monarchical absolutism is of the past, and so is ecclesiolatry. Dead and done for are feudal privileges and the division of society into closed, uncommunicating castes

 

[Politruk]

Of course, Trump is not the man Mussolini was, nor Hitler either. He does not have the imagination or the intellect to envision a New Order. He's just a real-estate mogul and reality TV host who got lucky. He would not even understand anything in any of the posts above.

 

[Bray123]

Of course, Trump is not the man Mussolini was, nor Hitler either. He does not have the imagination or the intellect to envision a New Order. He's just a real-estate mogul and reality TV host who got lucky. He would not even understand anything in any of the posts above.

Much like ultra-chav.

 

[Politruk]

I notice nobody has refuted or contradicted any of this. ^^^^^^

 

[BobYesTheBob]

This is how you spell idiot

Ironically, Politruk cannot spell "idiot". Don't hold your breath waiting for an original thought by this moron-wannabe. I love when the left decries fascism...um...the party of "diversity" but not diversity of thought! Party of NPCs. But I do like the fact that they announce themselves so aptly...the women with the cattle-esque nose rings. Yes, you are stupid cows, thank you, we knew that. Oh, you're telling the, uh...liberal me..well, yes, there exist zero liberal men, that is true...

 

[UltraChad]

"Fascism" the boogieman of leftist......an undefined nebulous blob of anything not lefty.

 

[UltraChad]

I notice nobody has refuted or contradicted any of this. ^^^^^^

Because it's fucking retarded.

You want to fear monger people over something you refuse to define, because if you did it would be turned around and used against you.

 

[Politruk]

You want to fear monger people over something you refuse to define

See posts #1, 2 and 3. Definitions.

 

[UltraChad]

See posts #1, 2 and 3. Definitions.

No those are leftoid delusions.

Even by those standards that's not how you or any other modern western leftist use that term......

 

[Politruk]

No those are leftoid delusions.

You are a liar.

 

[Rightguide]

Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle.

Mussolini never opposed Fascism. He edited the Socialist magazine Avante!

 

[Rightguide]

I notice nobody has refuted or contradicted any of this. ^^^^^^

As in every effort to further your education or correct your intellectual fantasies, every word, carefully chosen and delicately placed, is met not with comprehension but with blank stares, misplaced confidence, or obstinate defiance. Logic, no matter how patiently laid out, crumbles against the ironclad walls of your willful ignorance, misplaced pride, and emotional investments in whispering archives of falsehood.

 

[UltraChad]

You are a liar.

That's hysterical coming from a communist trying to redefine fascism to include anyone not actively seeking the destruction of their home nation from the inside out.

If you don't hate America and everything about it, you're a fascist!!! - Democrats, wondering how they lost.

 

[Politruk]

Mussolini never opposed Fascism. He edited the Socialist magazine Avante!

He was a socialist first, then a fascist.

 

[UltraChad]

He was a socialist first, then a fascist.

Fascist are socialist. A nationalist variety.

Nazis are race socialist, like modern day Democrats.

 

[Politruk]

Fascist are socialist. A nationalist variety.

Nazis are race socialist, like modern day Democrats.

All lies. No such thing as race socialism.

Orwell:

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from Socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes. Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a Socialist state. Ownership has never been abolished, there are still capitalists and workers, and – this is the important point, and the real reason why rich men all over the world tend to sympathize with Fascism – generally speaking the same people are capitalists and the same people workers as before the Nazi revolution. But at the same time the State, which is simply the Nazi Party, is in control of everything. It controls investment, raw materials, rates of interest, working hours, wages. The factory owner still owns his factory, but he is for practical purposes reduced to the status of a manager. Everyone is in effect a State employee, though the salaries vary very greatly. The mere efficiency of such a system, the elimination of waste and obstruction, is obvious. In seven years it has built up the most powerful war machine the world has ever seen.

But the idea underlying Fascism is irreconcilably different from that which underlies Socialism. Socialism aims, ultimately, at a world-state of free and equal human beings. It takes the equality of human rights for granted. Nazism assumes just the opposite. The driving force behind the Nazi movement is the belief in human inequality, the superiority of Germans to all other races, the right of Germany to rule the world. Outside the German Reich it does not recognize any obligations. Eminent Nazi professors have ‘proved’ over and over again that only nordic man is fully human, have even mooted the idea that non-nordic peoples (such as ourselves) can interbreed with gorillas! Therefore, while a species of war-Socialism exists within the German state, its attitude towards conquered nations is frankly that of an exploiter. The function of the Czechs, Poles, French, etc. is simply to produce such goods as Germany may need, and get in return just as little as will keep them from open rebellion. If we are conquered, our job will probably be to manufacture weapons for Hitler's forthcoming wars with Russia and America. The Nazis aim, in effect, at setting up a kind of caste system, with four main castes corresponding rather closely to those of the Hindu religion. At the top comes the Nazi party, second come the mass of the German people, third come the conquered European populations. Fourth and last are to come the coloured peoples, the ‘semi-apes’ as Hitler calls them, who are to be reduced quite openly to slavery.

However horrible this system may seem to us, it works. It works because it is a planned system geared to a definite purpose, world-conquest, and not allowing any private interest, either of capitalist or worker, to stand in its way. British capitalism does not work, because it is a competitive system in which private profit is and must be the main objective. It is a system in which all the forces are pulling in opposite directions and the interests of the individual are as often as not totally opposed to those of the State.

 

[UltraChad]

All lies. No such thing as race socialism.

Yes there is, it's called Nazism.

 

[Politruk]

Yes there is, it's called Nazism.

Which is not socialism. Orwell knew a lot more about that than you do.

 

[UltraChad]

Which is not socialism.

Yes it absolutely is.

It's not MARXISM...but it's absolutely socialism.

Orwell knew a lot more about that than you do.

Most of the best warnings about Marxist idiots comes from Orwell, he know you retards were totally fuckin' evil.

 

[Politruk]

Most of the best warnings about Marxist idiots comes from Orwell, he know you retards were totally fuckin' evil.

Orwell never wrote a word against Marxism.

 

[Oyster69]

You are a liar.

Single ply UltraChad toilet paper, always

 

[UltraChad]

Orwell never wrote a word against Marxism.

LMFAO!!!!!!! so you don't understand anything Orwell ever wrote.

How totally not shocking.