Transgender man tortured for months, then killed in NY

He's a perfect example of a leftist/democrat mentality, and you know it.
Not unless you can point to some actual examples of that happening, he isn't.
And regardless of what I know, you certainly don't understand the perfect example of a leftist/Democratic mentality, especially since you can't even spell it right. (Not to mention "leftist" and "Democratic" are actually two substantially different categories.)
 
Not unless you can point to some actual examples of that happening
I said example of mentality, not action. That's why leftists/democrats always call others nazis; it's an implicit position and threat that they want to kill them.
 
I said example of mentality, not action.
Must be nice to be able to read your opponent's mind.
That's why leftists/democrats always call others nazis; it's an implicit position and threat that they want to kill them.
Sure. It's got nothing to do with the many, many similarities between the way Trump talks about immigrants and Muslims and the way Hitler talked about the Jews, or with his bestie actually doing a Nazi salute on national television, or with the growing number of Nazi flags spotted at right-wing rallies in the USA...it's all our way of imagining an excuse to kill people. Brilliant.
 
Must be nice to be able to read your opponent's mind.
When someone clearly says something, I generally accept what they say is what they believe. Like what was stated in post #18. That's not mind reading, that's just reading.
Sure. It's got nothing to do with the many, many similarities between the way Trump talks about immigrants and Muslims and the way Hitler talked about the Jews, or with his bestie actually doing a Nazi salute on national television, or with the growing number of Nazi flags spotted at right-wing rallies in the USA...it's all our way of imagining an excuse to kill people. Brilliant.
Case in point, in your mind Trump supporters are like Nazis and it's perfectly justifiable to call them such.

And how were the Nazis dealt with? Shaking hands and agreeing to disagree? Or fighting and killing them?

When you identify a group of people and killed them on the basis of that identity, to then point at another group and identify them same way, leaves little wiggle room on what your proposed solution and endgame is.
 
When someone clearly says something, I generally accept what they say is what they believe.
No, you don't. We have all seen the lengths you will go to in order to convince yourself Trump didn't really mean all sorts of things he's said.
Case in point, in your mind Trump supporters are like Nazis and it's perfectly justifiable to call them such.
Not all of them. But the ones who use Nazi flags and Nazi salutes? Yeah, it is perfectly justifiable to call them such.
When you identify a group of people and killed them on the basis of that identity, to then point at another group and identify them same way, leaves little wiggle room on what your proposed solution and endgame is.
You make an excellent case for why Trump and his cult deserve to be compared to Nazis, although I don't think you intended to.
 
No, you don't. We have all seen the lengths you will go to in order to convince yourself Trump didn't really mean all sorts of things he's said.
Correction: I don't let people like you tell me what Trump says or what he 'really' means.
Not all of them. But the ones who use Nazi flags and Nazi salutes? Yeah, it is perfectly justifiable to call them such.
Just taking your claim at face value, you therefore condone the action of declaring war against and killing them.
You make an excellent case for why Trump and his cult deserve to be compared to Nazis, although I don't think you intended to.
Trump and Trump supporters don't support or promote killing people. If they did, they would begin by labeling those they wanted to kill with labels that begin to garner an acceptance of killing them. For example, using label 'Nazis" or "Deplorables", which are terms intended to dehumanize those being labeled as such.
 
Correction: I don't let people like you tell me what Trump says or what he 'really' means.
You can rationalize it all you want. But the fact remains, your track record fundamentally does not match up with your claim that, "When someone clearly says something, I generally accept what they say is what they believe." That's my point here.


Just taking your claim at face value, you therefore condone the action of declaring war against and killing them.
Whatever happened to "I said example of mentality, not action"? See your very own post 28 above. And in any case, no, I do not condone vigilante justice against other Americans, no matter how abhorrent I find their beliefs. I won't try to speak for Politruk, but I think he was just being hyperbolic. That's the way I read it, anyway.

Trump and Trump supporters don't support or promote killing people.
That may well be the most unintentionally funny thing I've ever read here.
If they did, they would begin by labeling those they wanted to kill with labels that begin to garner an acceptance of killing them. For example, using label 'Nazis" or "Deplorables",
How about rapists and drug-pushers? Vermin? Marxists? Radical left thugs? Trump has used every last one of those at various times.
 
You can rationalize it all you want. But the fact remains, your track record fundamentally does not match up with your claim that, "When someone clearly says something, I generally accept what they say is what they believe." That's my point here.
You're confusing that with accepting your interpretation and assertions of what people say.
I do not condone vigilante justice against other Americans, no matter how abhorrent I find their beliefs.
But you do condone calling them Nazis and deplorables, knowing full well that kind of labeling and divisiveness easily leads to violence.
I won't try to speak for Politruk, but I think he was just being hyperbolic. That's the way I read it, anyway.
Ah, yes, hyperbolic. Funny how that exact assessment for Trump doesn't fly with you, but you'll use it when convenient for your side.
How about rapists and drug-pushers? Vermin? Marxists? Radical left thugs? Trump has used every last one of those at various times.
And the proposed solution is kicking such illegal immigrants out of the country, or if citizens, locking them up. A mandate the American people clearly voted for. Neither is in the slightest way objectionable.
 
You're confusing that with accepting your interpretation and assertions of what people say.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think I am.
But you do condone calling them Nazis and deplorables, knowing full well that kind of labeling and divisiveness easily leads to violence.
If it "easily leads to violence," just where are the stories of roving gangs of Democrats beating up on poor, defenseless victims who did nothing but, say, wear a t-shirt with a swastika on it or something?
Ah, yes, hyperbolic. Funny how that exact assessment for Trump doesn't fly with you, but you'll use it when convenient for your side.
My side doesn't have a history of fomenting violence with its rhetoric: Trump does.
And the proposed solution is kicking such illegal immigrants out of the country, or if citizens, locking them up. A mandate the American people clearly voted for. Neither is in the slightest way objectionable.
Not only is this the very definition of moving the goalposts, it isn't even true. Some of the people Trump called "vermin" or "Marxists" were guilty of nothing but disagreeing with him. How is using language like that "not in the slightest way objectionable" when they did nothing illegal or wrong?

But that's beside the point, really. Lest we forget, you said:

Trump and Trump supporters don't support or promote killing people. If they did, they would begin by labeling those they wanted to kill with labels that begin to garner an acceptance of killing them. For example, using label 'Nazis" or "Deplorables", which are terms intended to dehumanize those being labeled as such.

Then I said:
How about rapists and drug-pushers? Vermin? Marxists? Radical left thugs? Trump has used every last one of those at various times.
And you responded that Trump just wanted to kick them out of the country (which is exactly what the Nazis said about the Jews at first, but I digress). Either it's always wrong to use "terms intended to dehumanize those being labeled as such" or it isn't. But here, whether you mean to or not, you are effectively arguing that it's OK for Trump to do so because he "only" intends to either deport them or throw them in jail - including citizens who have committed no crime at all.
 
You know perfectly well what I meant. Grow up.
Thought we agreed I'm not a mind reader? You said I'm entitled to my opinion, but you don't think you are.

Are you suggesting that my interpretation of what you said is inaccurate? Despite what you said being in written format, that required you to think about it, type it out, and submit it?

Imagine what interpretations people could make of you talking in real time, off the cuff remarks you make, and you saying things that aren't lawyered up linguistically to ensure no possible negative interpretations could be made. Especially by those who don't like you and have a vested interest in making you look and sound as bad as possible.

Are you getting it yet?
 
Thread subject: Horrific murder of a trans man

Correct response: This is awful. I hope justice is served.

Deplorable Response: This is triggering the hell out of me because transphobia...must blame liberals immediately and then sealion all over the thread.

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Thread subject: Horrific murder of a trans man

Correct response: This is awful. I hope justice is served.

Deplorable Response: This is triggering the hell out of me because transphobia...must blame liberals immediately and then sealion all over the thread.

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all murder is horrific
 
Women are beaten and raped every day, no one cares.

But when the left has an agenda, all of a sudden an anomaly becomes 'everyone all the time"

Piss off with your fake outrage and acting like one type of person is more important than another.
 
He wasn’t beaten to death because he was gay. He was beaten to death because he was a drug addict, that may be too harsh though. He might have just been doing drugs with the wrong people. While the sensational HBO movie was a tear jerker it wasn’t the true story, or at least the whole story. This is one of those stories that was sensationalized to further a cause. It would have garnered outrage without the hysterics.

Nobody deserves to have happen what happened to Matt that night. Those killers were evil.
The gaslighting is strong in this one.
 
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