Outlaw of Romance Writing

[AwkwardlySet]

You really are a true gem, PSG. I actually made the joke exactly becuse I dislike the 'mansplaining' line people sometimes use to discredit one's arguments. You can believe what you want to believe though. Same as everyone else here, I know better than to try to change your mind about anything, even about this absurd assertion that I have ever acted as a dick towards you.

As I said, carry on.

 

[jaF0]

I'll take 'The AH being The AH for $10,000' Alex.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

You really are a true gem, PSG. I actually made the joke exactly becuse I dislike the 'mansplaining' line people sometimes use to discredit one's arguments. You can believe what you want to believe though. Same as everyone else here, I know better than to try to change your mind about anything, even about this absurd assertion that I have ever acted as a dick towards you.

As I said, carry on.

If that was the case, you should have quoted the mansplainer, not me. And second, knock off the passive-agg "i've never been a dick to you," crap.

 

[Belegon]

I think that the subject of this thread is more than appropriate for the AH. This proposed law worries me because I feel like any legalized censorship threatens all First Amendment rights, and because I live in a state that is often reactionary, especially on the far right of legislative actions. For that matter, The first place it would probably spread is to neighboring Texas, where I don't think the law would pass but I can see it causing stress and worry to several friends. I certainly don't think this law would withstand a Supreme Court challenge, even with the current makeup of the court.

 

[Belegon]

More mansplaining...

This word has become a whip to be used against any man, whether the behavior he is engaging in fits the original purpose of the word or not. I find it to be extremely distasteful and sexist.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Sigh.
Why is it that all we always hear comes either from far left or far right? When did pure idiocy become our reality? Each side should learn to silence the extremes and morons in their ranks so the rest of us could finally enjoy freedom of speech and some peace of mind.

Squeaky wheel syndrome...Most sane people are to busy living their lives to worry about stupid stuff like this...

 

[TheLobster]

I actually made the joke exactly becuse I dislike the 'mansplaining' line people sometimes use to discredit one's arguments.

Indeed you have, and I’m sure virtually everyone got the joke immediately — except PSG. Alas, hell hath no fury like a narcissist (who wants to feel) scorned.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Indeed you have, and I’m sure virtually everyone got the joke immediately — except PSG. Alas, hell hath no fury like a narcissist (who wants to feel) scorned.

But I am scorned. You just proved it.

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

Don't worry about this. There are always bills like this getting introduced everywhere. Even the most successful antipornography bills - the age limit ones - are easily gotten around and enforcement isn't targeted at individuals. The chances of this going anywhere are very low.

And, as noted above, the definition they're using says "visual," so written works wouldn't count. As for the standard Miller test, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm always going for serious literary value.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

And, as noted above, the definition they're using says "visual," so written works wouldn't count. As for the standard Miller test, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm always going for serious literary value.

Pulp writers didn't. Terry Pratchett didn't. I also don't.

After the shit I went through last year, I have a very personal vendetta against the people in power, and I prefer to be the reason why they can't sleep.

 

[Britva415]

this should be a challenge to write better to get through the censors

That's giving too much credit to censors for getting to be the judges of literary quality, and puts responsibility on authors to comply with a patent injustice.

It smacks of "if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" with regard to unlawful searches or unlawful surveillance.

 

[madelinemasoch]

That's giving too much credit to censors for getting to be the judges of literary quality, and puts responsibility on authors to comply with a patent injustice.

It smacks of "if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" with regard to unlawful searches or unlawful surveillance.

No, it doesn't. That's a completely different situation.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

No, it doesn't. That's a completely different situation.

History proves you very very wrong.

 

[madelinemasoch]

History proves you very very wrong.

The proposed law in question doesn't enforce surveillance.

 

[Britva415]

No, it doesn't. That's a completely different situation.

What about the other part?

Should people have to "write better" instead of getting censored?

Whatever that even means. Should censors of all people be the gatekeepers for "good writing?"

 

[madelinemasoch]

What about the other part?

Should people have to "write better" instead of getting censored?

Whatever that even means. Should censors of all people be the gatekeepers for "good writing?"

It means “literary merit.” It says so right there.

I’m not saying anyone gatekeeps that or should because they can’t possibly actually gatekeep that even if they say so.

I didn’t say they should have to write better to avoid getting censored. I said in the event in which you will be, but you still have an opening based on merit, then one should take that as an opportunity to improve.

I’m tired of being willfully misinterpreted on this site.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

The proposed law in question doesn't enforce surveillance.

Any time that you grant power like that it will be abused. History proves this relentlessly. You put the power of judgement on artwork, it will be abused to censor and suppress at some point.

 

[Britva415]

I’m tired of being willfully misinterpreted on this site.

ok, well that's just basically namecalling.

Willful my ass.

Blocked, you're welcome. Can't misinterpret shit - willfully or otherwise - if I don't ever see it at all. Enjoy the relief.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I’m not saying anyone gatekeeps that or should because they can’t possibly actually gatekeep that even if they say so.

Just creating that law creates a gatekeeper, and who will step forth to be that gatekeeper in charge of that? Someone corrupt with an axe to grind who will feel their duty to enforce their superior morals upon the rest of us either for our own good or their own benefit or both.

 

[madelinemasoch]

Just creating that law creates a gatekeeper, and who will step forth to be that gatekeeper in charge of that? Someone corrupt with an axe to grind who will feel their duty to enforce their superior morals upon the rest of us either for our own good or their own benefit or both.

No, in reality, it does not.

The power of writing supersedes law.

 

[JGittes]

Louisiana prosecutors are attempting to extradite a New York physician to try them for murder for prescribing FDA-approved medication. We are far past the time when sanguinity is the proper response.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

No, in reality, it does not.

The power of writing supersedes law.

Corruption supercedes all. History proves it beyond any doubt.

 

[madelinemasoch]

Corruption supercedes all. History proves it beyond any doubt.

What is all this like, vague gesturing at history to reinforce our own nihilism happening today?

Aren't we supposed to be the creative people who have optimism and pursue to follow higher values?

 

[TheLobster]

Aren't we supposed to be the creative people who have optimism and pursue to follow higher values?

No, no, no. We’re the brooding, melancholic, misunderstood artists with the weight of the world on our shoulders, destined to never find the appreciation of our contemporaries.

Well, at least I am. I’m gonna reapply the black eyeliner and the SPF 70 now.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

What is all this like, vague gesturing at history to reinforce our own nihilism happening today?

Aren't we supposed to be the creative people who have optimism and pursue to follow higher values?

It's less vague than your arguments.

See, it always goes like this:

X: We should implement ABC.

Y: No, ABC will get exploited and abused to do this other thing.

X: No no no, it's not intended for this other thing, so no one will abuse it.

ABC goes through and gets rampantly abused.