Constitutional Crisis?

[Rebel5soul]

Trump is prevailing over all of the judges that are issuing unconstitutional TRO's. So exactly WHERE IS this "Constitutional Crisis?"

If you haven't guessed it's with the activist judges that need to be removed from the bench.

 

[Politruk]

Trump is prevailing over all of the judges that are issuing unconstitutional TRO's. So exactly WHERE IS this "Constitutional Crisis?"

That's the crisis. In our constitutional system, the courts should always have the final word and it should always be binding on the other two branches. Otherwise, we don't have a rule-of-law system.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Ahhh yes, a tyranny of the judges. Thank God for the 2nd amendment.

 

[Politruk]

Ahhh yes, a tyranny of the judges. Thank God for the 2nd amendment.

Not helping.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Trump is prevailing over all of the judges that are issuing unconstitutional TRO's. So exactly WHERE IS this "Constitutional Crisis?"

If you haven't guessed it's with the activist judges that need to be removed from the bench.

Which judges are you babbling about and what exactly makes them activist judges?

(I won't get a direct answer)

 

[Rebel5soul]

So far virtually all of them. Each of them have a conflict of interest going and each of them issued a TRO in an action in which they have NO jurisdiction (separation of power) and in which the plaintiffs have no standing. That is the very definition of judicial activism.

 

[Politruk]

So far virtually all of them. Each of them have a conflict of interest going

What conflict of interest?

 

[DeluxAuto]

So far virtually all of them. Each of them have a conflict of interest going and each of them issued a TRO in an action in which they have NO jurisdiction (separation of power) and in which the plaintiffs have no standing. That is the very definition of judicial activism.

Yet you can't name a single one.

Separation of power? Did you Faith Leader tell you that crap?

 

[Rebel5soul]

Yet you can't name a single one.

Separation of power? Did you Faith Leader tell you that crap?

Put down the bong and catch up on the news.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Put down the bong and catch up on the news.

It's your thread. If you can't even name a single alleged culprit, you failed worse than your parents.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

There’s no constitutional crisis. Trump is likely to lose on the birthright citizenship issue but he’s going to test it in the courts. The executive branch will prevail in most other challenges to his EOs.

 

[Politruk]

Put down the bong and catch up on the news.

You make the assertion, you bring the cite or you're a liar. Only the most contemptible kind of crank ever says Do your own research."

 

[Politruk]

There’s no constitutional crisis. Trump is likely to lose on the birthright citizenship issue but he’s going to test it in the courts. The executive branch will prevail in most other challenges to his EOs.

If the executive branch defies court orders, that is a constitutional crisis.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

If the executive branch defies court orders, that is a constitutional crisis.

Exactly what orders is the executive branch defying?

 

[Politruk]

Exactly what orders is the executive branch defying?

Denying the court's authority to issue them also presents a constitutional crises.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Ahhh yes, a tyranny of the judges. Thank God for the 2nd amendment.

Oooh, you going to shoot 'em, grandpa?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Denying the court's authority to issue them also presents a constitutional crises.

Maybe I wasn’t clear. I heard the president say he intends to comply with court orders. He might change his mind at some point but for now, thats the WH position. Are there any court orders that the executive branch is not complying with? If so, what specific orders?

 

[Politruk]

Maybe I wasn’t clear. I heard the president say he intends to comply with court orders. He might change his mind at some point but for now, thats the WH position. Are there any court orders that the executive branch is not complying with? If so, what specific orders?

Here:

Vice President J.D. Vance signaled that President Donald Trump's administration is poised to ignore a judicial ruling, according to experts.

Raw Story reported on Saturday that legal analysts looking at Elon Musk's social media activity predicted that he would at least consider denying a major court order that limited his access to Treasury Department data.

The next day, Vance seemed to indicate that same plan, according to attorneys. The V.P. said in part, "Judges aren’t allowed to control the executive’s legitimate power."

 

[Randomguy126]

Not the same bullshit from you again l more lies and trash lmao

 

[Politruk]

14 states file a lawsuit arguing Elon Musk's authority at DOGE is unconstitutional

A group of 14 states sued Elon Musk and President Donald Trump on Thursday, arguing that the authority the White House granted the tech billionaire and his advisory Department of Government Efficiency is unconstitutional.

The suit, filed by Democratic attorneys general from states like Arizona, Michigan and Rhode Island, takes aim at the magnitude and scale of Musk’s power, noting that DOGE has led the Trump administration’s efforts to dramatically reduce the size of the federal workforce, dismantle entire agencies and access sensitive data.

“The founders of this country would be outraged that, 250 years after our nation overthrew a king, the people of this country—many of whom have fought and died to protect our freedoms—are now subject to the whims of a single unelected billionaire,” Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said in a statement.

The attorneys general argue that Trump violated the Appointments Clause of the Constitution by creating DOGE — an unofficial government agency — without congressional approval and by granting Musk “sweeping powers” without seeking the advice and consent of the Senate through a confirmation hearing.

“President Trump has delegated virtually unchecked authority to Mr. Musk without proper legal authorization from Congress and without meaningful supervision of his activities,” the lawsuit reads. “As a result, he has transformed a minor position that was formerly responsible for managing government websites into a designated agent of chaos without limitation and in violation of the separation of powers.”

The states are seeking a court order blocking Musk from making changes to government funding, canceling contracts, making personnel decisions and more.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the lawsuit a "continuation of the weaponization of justice against President Trump."

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Here:

Vice President J.D. Vance signaled that President Donald Trump's administration is poised to ignore a judicial ruling, according to experts.

Raw Story reported on Saturday that legal analysts looking at Elon Musk's social media activity predicted that he would at least consider denying a major court order that limited his access to Treasury Department data.

The next day, Vance seemed to indicate that same plan, according to attorneys. The V.P. said in part, "Judges aren’t allowed to control the executive’s legitimate power."

Got it. The executive branch disagrees with the orders but is in compliance with them. Presidents often express disagreement with court rulings. Quite a stretch to call that a “constitutional crisis.”

 

[Politruk]

Got it. The executive branch disagrees with the orders but is in compliance with them.

Is it in compliance with this one?

 

[Lance_Castro]

The USA is destroying itself, which is bizarre given its success.

I think it’s odd that a federal judge in one state can issue a nationwide ruling on anything, but that’s showbiz.

It makes democratic state attorney generals and federal judges the de facto white house opposition.

Checks and balances I guess, but if everything a fed government does is litigated by the opposition party in scattered states, you arent going to get anything done.

And thats how the USA is flushing itself out of relevance.

 

[Bray123]

It isn't that long since Louisiana prosecutors issued an arrest warrant and an extradition request against a New York resident in New York, for an act that is legal in New York.

Now MAGAts think they can ignore Federal laws, provided they are in a state with a fully bribed justice system.

 

[Politruk]

The USA is destroying itself, which is bizarre given its success.

I think it’s odd that a federal judge in one state can issue a nationwide ruling on anything, but that’s showbiz.

It makes democratic state attorney generals and federal judges the de facto white house opposition.

Checks and balances I guess, but if everything a fed government does is litigated by the opposition party in scattered states, you arent going to get anything done.

And thats how the USA is flushing itself out of relevance.

Don't you have the same system in Canada?