Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense

[RoryN]

LOL. FAFO

^^^

 

[ChloeTzang]

Hegseth is wasting the same to out a confederate traitor back on top.

History and tradition is important.... but woke Liberals want to destroy both history and tradition as a way of breaking down institutions, society and culture.

Therefore it's important to reverse the changes and restore what was maliciously destroyed

 

[RoryN]

History and tradition is important.... but woke Liberals want to destroy both history and tradition as a way of breaking down institutions, society and culture.

Therefore it's important to reverse the changes and restore what was maliciously destroyed

 

[ll74]

History and tradition is important.... but woke Liberals want to destroy both history and tradition as a way of breaking down institutions, society and culture.

Confederates were traitors. Historically, they have no place being honored. History is in our history books....where we are properly taught that Bragg was a traitor to our country who lost a war to overturn the government.

Therefore it's important to reverse the changes and restore what was maliciously destroyed

Nothing was maliciously destroyed except for those who prefer racism.

 

[Politruk]

the deep state

You are an idiot.

 

[RoryN]

Winning! lol

If Harris had done this, there'd be 3 threads about it already.

'Help me out': Pete Hegseth flubs [and slurs] motto of the United States in speech to troops​

https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hegseth-e-pluribus-unum/

 

[PaxNurgle]

Confederates were traitors. Historically, they have no place being honored. History is in our history books....where we are properly taught that Bragg was a traitor to our country who lost a war to overturn the government.


Nothing was maliciously destroyed except for those who prefer racism.

Exactly this. Keep in mind that he is one of those who outspokenly prefer racism.

And keep in mind, also, that this country has NEVER had a history of totalitarian/fascistic government- until now. The United States is navigating uncharted waters. Preserving our history as a free, civilized and democratic state is important, now more than ever, before history is re-written, and all who are not white Anglo-axon males are effectively written out of it.

 

[Politruk]

History and tradition is important.... but woke Liberals want to destroy both history and tradition as a way of breaking down institutions, society and culture.

Therefore it's important to reverse the changes and restore what was maliciously destroyed

Not everything in history or tradition is worth preserving outside of books and museums. The Confederate flag is not. The names of Confederate generals are not.

 

[Politruk]

Ignorant liar

No, that would be you, every time you speak of "lawfare."

 

[Politruk]

What a contrast. Why, it's so clear it could almost be night & day, black & white....

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Hegseth will never be Austin's equal in any way.

 

[dmallord]

View attachment 2476889real American family

Skinheads and tie-dyed shirts. Can't say they aren't raised alike expect for the odd kid with the grey tennies. What's up with that, papa, store didn't have his size in white?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Hegseth will never be Austin's equal in any way.

That's true. He's about a 100 pounds lighter and way fit. Poor old Lloyd. All that pork is gonna finish him off

 

[Lazaran]

Winning! lol

If Harris had done this, there'd be 3 threads about it already.

'Help me out': Pete Hegseth flubs [and slurs] motto of the United States in speech to troops​

https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hegseth-e-pluribus-unum/

Hegseth’s mangling of the national motto is the perfect metaphor for EVERY bad thing that is happening under President Musk’s (and DonOld’s) corrupt and incompetent administration.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Confederates were traitors. Historically, they have no place being honored. History is in our history books....where we are properly taught that Bragg was a traitor to our country who lost a war to overturn the government.

OMG. Is THAT how you describe the War of Northern Aggression, which really, was over economics, not slavery - as the woke myth insists it is.

Why should they not be honored? The fought for their country just as much as the Unionist aggressors. Robert E. Lee, for example, an alleged racist toward whom the woketards express violent hatred, was the first person offered command of the Union armies. How can it be that a “Southern racist” was offered command of the Union Army if the union was going to war to free black slaves? Oh dear.

Nope. Confederates were not traitors. The Confederate States seceded, as was their Constitutional right, and the northern fascist launched a war of oppression and a murderous genocide on the innocent freedom loving citizens of the southern states.

"...the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it."

 

[Politruk]

OMG. Is THAT how you describe the War of Northern Aggression, which really, was over economics, not slavery - as the woke myth insists it is.

That is a lie.

Why should they not be honored? The fought for their country just as much as the Unionist aggressors.

Also a lie.

"...the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it."

That didn't happen, did it?

 

[RoryN]

OMG. Is THAT how you describe the War of Northern Aggression, which really, was over economics, not slavery

I love whenever a racist pulls out this garbage. Makes it so much easier for everyone to categorize and dismiss them when they refuse to get basic history right because of their bigotry.

Thanks for your input, LittleDixie!

 

[Politruk]

The Confederate States seceded, as was their Constitutional right, and the northern fascist launched a war of oppression and a murderous genocide on the innocent freedom loving citizens of the southern states.

There was no genocide. And no oppression, not even during Reconstruction.

 

[Politruk]

The Southern states started announcing their secession as soon as Lincoln was elected. Before he had done anything to threaten their internal autonomy. Before he had even taken office. So it is nonsense to claim they fought for "states' rights."

And Lincoln was not really an abolitionist. If the Southern states had not seceded, he would have done nothing to threaten their "peculiar institution." At most, he would have vetoed the admission of any new slave states to the Union.

The Southern leaders knew all this. They just did not care to remain in a union where it was possible for a party with an abolitionist wing to win the presidency.

 

[Politruk]

Lost Cause of the South:

The term Lost Cause of the South (also Lost Cause of the Confederacy) refers to a number of interpretations of the American Civil War from an effectively pro-Southern perspective. All wars in history have had complex, nuanced reasons for their occurrence, but the idea of the "Lost Cause" is a classic example of denialism, where the conflict is reframed to minimize or even completely ignore the primary cause of the Civil War; the existence of slavery. This mythos makes reference to a number of different themes, and these appear in various pop culture sources and persist to this day.

Almost immediately after the war ended in 1865, the defeated Southern states had to form a coherent reason why they had engaged in a rebellion against the Union.[note 2] Such reason could not highlight the centrality of slavery to the Southern cause, but instead had to minimize, or even deny, the role of slavery. The first appearance of the term "Lost Cause" was in the 1866 book by Edward A. Pollard, deceptively titled The Lost Cause: A New Southern History Of The War Of The Confederates as there was no such book that preceded it.[6][7]:156 Pollard laid the groundwork for the Lost Cause mythos: defending white supremacy, arguing that slavery was not a cause of the war, arguing for States' rights based on the Tenth Amendment, and that slavery was necessary to prevent race war.[7]:157 For Pollard, the Civil War only decided two things, the restoration of the Union and the end to slavery — not equality of the races, or voting rights for African Americans.[7]:157

The literature promoting what was to become the Lost Cause mythos can be traced to the revisionist 1890 book Why the solid South?,[8] which argued that Black voters only wanted government money and that the Black Republican dominated governments during Reconstruction were corrupt.[9]:129 The ideas in the book were later promoted by Thomas Dixon in 1906[9]:138 (Dixon later wrote the book that inspired the racist film The Birth of a Nation). Also beginning in 1896, steel baron James Ford Rhodes wrote a 7-volume revisionist history of Reconstruction, History of the United States from the compromise of 1850.[10][9]:138 Rhodes history came under contemporaneous and substantive criticism by historian John R. Lynch,https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png but despite this, Rhodes' revisionist view of Reconstruction was taken up by William Archibald Dunning, a political theorist at Columbia University, as part of the Dunning Schoolhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png of historiography.[9]:138-139

Furthermore, many white Southerners during Reconstruction (1865-1877) believed that the Union had, in fact, placed an oppressive regime on their states. Union troops left the South at the end of Reconstruction, but the bulk of Confederate memorials were not built until after the beginning of the Jim Crow era in the 1890s.[11] The memorials were often funded and driven by the United Daughters of the Confederacy and supported by many Southern veterans' groups.[12] The purpose of this was to try and redefine the meaning of the war to ignore slavery, so that the Southern "heroes" would not seem like evil racists seeking to hold down an entire race of people. A very good example of this is how Robert E. Lee is often played up as being opposed to slavery and only fighting for the Confederacy because his home state of Virginia joined the Confederacy, which ignores the fact he himself actually owned slaves and refused to ever release them, punishing them brutally when they tried to escape.

The myth as laid out by Jefferson Davis drew on contemporary trends in its portrayal of an idyllic rural South opposed to the industrial North. It was influenced by naive Romanticism, in particular the writings of the Scottish Tory novelist Walter Scott, several of whose stories referred to the defeat of the Jacobite pretenders in Britain; these books were popular in the South before and during the Civil War. In 1869, Davis travelled through Britain to Culloden, site of the Jacobites' ultimate defeat in 1746, to pay his respects and reflect on an earlier lost cause.[13] Many Scots had emigrated to New World, particularly the Carolinas, and Davis praised the Scottish heritage of Stonewall Jackson and John C. Calhoun. An 1875 lecture published as Scotland and the Scottish People celebrated what he identified as the Scots and Irish love of tradition, and gave them as examples of glory in defeat, while recasting the war in Romantic terms as a defeat of rural tradition by brutal modern armies, and nothing to do with slavery.[14]

 

[RobDownSouth]

Interesting factoid of the day:
Alcoholic Secretary of Defense has held six jobs after his college graduation
His current position as SecDef is his sixth job.
At every one of his previous five jobs, he was accused of "inappropriate sexual relations with a subordinate" within his first six months of employment.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Lost Cause of the South:

The term Lost Cause of the South (also Lost Cause of the Confederacy) refers to a number of interpretations of the American Civil War from an effectively pro-Southern perspective. All wars in history have had complex, nuanced reasons for their occurrence, but the idea of the "Lost Cause" is a classic example of denialism, where the conflict is reframed to minimize or even completely ignore the primary cause of the Civil War; the existence of slavery. This mythos makes reference to a number of different themes, and these appear in various pop culture sources and persist to this day.

Almost immediately after the war ended in 1865, the defeated Southern states had to form a coherent reason why they had engaged in a rebellion against the Union.[note 2] Such reason could not highlight the centrality of slavery to the Southern cause, but instead had to minimize, or even deny, the role of slavery. The first appearance of the term "Lost Cause" was in the 1866 book by Edward A. Pollard, deceptively titled The Lost Cause: A New Southern History Of The War Of The Confederates as there was no such book that preceded it.[6][7]:156 Pollard laid the groundwork for the Lost Cause mythos: defending white supremacy, arguing that slavery was not a cause of the war, arguing for States' rights based on the Tenth Amendment, and that slavery was necessary to prevent race war.[7]:157 For Pollard, the Civil War only decided two things, the restoration of the Union and the end to slavery — not equality of the races, or voting rights for African Americans.[7]:157

The literature promoting what was to become the Lost Cause mythos can be traced to the revisionist 1890 book Why the solid South?,[8] which argued that Black voters only wanted government money and that the Black Republican dominated governments during Reconstruction were corrupt.[9]:129 The ideas in the book were later promoted by Thomas Dixon in 1906[9]:138 (Dixon later wrote the book that inspired the racist film The Birth of a Nation). Also beginning in 1896, steel baron James Ford Rhodes wrote a 7-volume revisionist history of Reconstruction, History of the United States from the compromise of 1850.[10][9]:138 Rhodes history came under contemporaneous and substantive criticism by historian John R. Lynch,https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png but despite this, Rhodes' revisionist view of Reconstruction was taken up by William Archibald Dunning, a political theorist at Columbia University, as part of the Dunning Schoolhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png of historiography.[9]:138-139

Furthermore, many white Southerners during Reconstruction (1865-1877) believed that the Union had, in fact, placed an oppressive regime on their states. Union troops left the South at the end of Reconstruction, but the bulk of Confederate memorials were not built until after the beginning of the Jim Crow era in the 1890s.[11] The memorials were often funded and driven by the United Daughters of the Confederacy and supported by many Southern veterans' groups.[12] The purpose of this was to try and redefine the meaning of the war to ignore slavery, so that the Southern "heroes" would not seem like evil racists seeking to hold down an entire race of people. A very good example of this is how Robert E. Lee is often played up as being opposed to slavery and only fighting for the Confederacy because his home state of Virginia joined the Confederacy, which ignores the fact he himself actually owned slaves and refused to ever release them, punishing them brutally when they tried to escape.

The myth as laid out by Jefferson Davis drew on contemporary trends in its portrayal of an idyllic rural South opposed to the industrial North. It was influenced by naive Romanticism, in particular the writings of the Scottish Tory novelist Walter Scott, several of whose stories referred to the defeat of the Jacobite pretenders in Britain; these books were popular in the South before and during the Civil War. In 1869, Davis travelled through Britain to Culloden, site of the Jacobites' ultimate defeat in 1746, to pay his respects and reflect on an earlier lost cause.[13] Many Scots had emigrated to New World, particularly the Carolinas, and Davis praised the Scottish heritage of Stonewall Jackson and John C. Calhoun. An 1875 lecture published as Scotland and the Scottish People celebrated what he identified as the Scots and Irish love of tradition, and gave them as examples of glory in defeat, while recasting the war in Romantic terms as a defeat of rural tradition by brutal modern armies, and nothing to do with slavery.[14]

omg you really drank the koolaid

 

[ChloeTzang]

Thanks for your input, LittleDixie!

You're welcome, Yankee

 

[ChloeTzang]

That is a lie.

Nope. True

Also a lie.

LOL. They surely did.

That didn't happen, did it?

Not for want of trying

 

[ll74]

OMG. Is THAT how you describe the War of Northern Aggression, which really, was over economics, not slavery - as the woke myth insists it is.

Why should they not be honored? The fought for their country just as much as the Unionist aggressors. Robert E. Lee, for example, an alleged racist toward whom the woketards express violent hatred, was the first person offered command of the Union armies. How can it be that a “Southern racist” was offered command of the Union Army if the union was going to war to free black slaves? Oh dear.

Nope. Confederates were not traitors. The Confederate States seceded, as was their Constitutional right, and the northern fascist launched a war of oppression and a murderous genocide on the innocent freedom loving citizens of the southern states.

"...the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it."

The confederacy were traitors. They didn't fight for America, they fought for the confederacy. If they would've won, America wouldn't exist


The war was over slavery

No statues or forts should be dedicated to traitors. They revoked their citizenship when they seceded. The country they left owe them nothing

 

[Wat_Tyler]

omg you really drank the koolaid

All of it.


And then made another pitcher.


Didn't share that one, either.