Why the Department of Education?

They mention them all of the time but you aren't listening. It's not in the Constitution and the federal government should have nothing to do with how the states educate their children or inserting themselves between parents and their children's education.
You still haven't mentioned what objectionable things that department is doing. Your hostility toward the DOE seems to be based simply on a general preference for state over federal government -- and that is not relevant to this discussion.
 
It's not in the Constitution so should be abolished.
It's in the Constitution so should be abolished.
It's against the Constitution so the Constitution should be abolished.

Take your pick.
 
I have a fair amount of experience of centralized Departments of education in both UK and OZ. In both instances they started out with the best of intentions and ended up as over-sized bureaucracies weaponized by Politicial interests.
And all of those are generally agreed to produce better results than our system.
 
You still haven't mentioned what objectionable things that department is doing. Your hostility toward the DOE seems to be based simply on a general preference for state over federal government -- and that is not relevant to this discussion.
It's fundamentally relevant but it's obviously above your ability to put two and two together.
 
It's fundamentally relevant but it's obviously above your ability to put two and two together.
A general preference for state over federal government is never relevant to any discussion. In American history, "states' rights" has never meant anything that was not horribly ugly and deeply objectionable.
 
A general preference for state over federal government is never relevant to any discussion. In American history, "states' rights" has never meant anything that was not horribly ugly and deeply objectionable.
You hate the USA, noted.

Same thing every day.
 
This is why Trump loves the poorly educated:

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Pew Research Center, October 26, 2020

What the 2020 electorate looks like by party, race and ethnicity, age, education and religion​


Around two-thirds of registered voters in the U.S. (65%) do not have a college degree, while 36% do. But the share of voters with a college degree has risen substantially since 1996, when 24% had one.

Voters who identify with the Democratic Party or lean toward it are much more likely than their Republican counterparts to have a college degree (41% vs. 30%). In 1996, the reverse was true: 27% of GOP voters had a college degree, compared with 22% of Democratic voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ace-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/
 
They are community property

No, they're not.

You absolute fucking psychopath.....and the idea that they are is how lots of people get bigly hurt.

Fucking with other peoples kids is a DANGEROUS game you commie fuckwit scum love to play, and it burns you losers every time....why can't you learn??
 
No, they're not.

You absolute fucking psychopath.....and the idea that they are is how lots of people get bigly hurt.

Fucking with other peoples kids is a DANGEROUS game you commie fuckwit scum love to play, and it burns you losers every time....why can't you learn??
It does no harm at all to anyone in the social democracies. The countries the USA should be trying to imitate.
 
I have a question how many of you anti home school actually have used the program?

If you didn't you don't have a dog in this fight.

There's a thousand things that a family choses to use the home school program.

I've had 1 child and 2 grand children and the group they hang with have produced 4 doctors of veterinary medicine a couple of good auto mechanics an electrical engineer or 2 their curriculum in home school program weighed heavy toward their chosen profession not general type studies in a public school that didn't have a path to their chosen profession.

Yes kids fail in home school but I'm sure its at a lesser rate than public school.
I think because the home school students usually have the personal drive to help themselves.
 
I have a question how many of you anti home school actually have used the program?

If you didn't you don't have a dog in this fight.

There's a thousand things that a family choses to use the home school program.

I've had 1 child and 2 grand children and the group they hang with have produced 4 doctors of veterinary medicine a couple of good auto mechanics an electrical engineer or 2 their curriculum in home school program weighed heavy toward their chosen profession not general type studies in a public school that didn't have a path to their chosen profession.

Yes kids fail in home school but I'm sure its at a lesser rate than public school.
I think because the home school students usually have the personal drive to help themselves.
What research leads you to that conclusion?
 
And all of those are generally agreed to produce better results than our system.
So why are you defending your system which has been centralized for the past 40 years. You cannot have it both ways. The DOE should be dismantled and the National standards be determined outside of government altogether. Political involvement in this field is disastrous; those clowns just see it as another opportunity to dole out pork to their friends.
 
So why are you defending your system which has been centralized for the past 40 years.
It hasn't been. In all ways that matter, American public schools are run at the state or county level -- and they shouldn't be.

You cannot have it both ways. The DOE should be dismantled and the National standards be determined outside of government altogether.
National standards cannot be determined outside of government and be enforced.
Political involvement in this field is disastrous; those clowns just see it as another opportunity to dole out pork to their friends.
You could say the same about the UK or France or Japan -- but their systems still produce better results than ours.
 
What research leads you to that conclusion?
life watching these student's thrive. yes public school has students that go on to be productive.
For some kids the cookie cutter education isn't for them so why not let them chart their own path.
I did have 3 students in public school and the 4 was in public school until middle school, public school didn't engage him or challenge him to be his best. It wasn't what he wanted he was driven in his junior and senior year he took collage courses along with home school that took almost 2 years off his degree the 2 vets did the same thing. if they were in public school that option wasn't there.
 
You still haven't mentioned what objectionable things that department is doing. Your hostility toward the DOE seems to be based simply on a general preference for state over federal government -- and that is not relevant to this discussion.

It is relevant you just don't like to acknowledge it because it shits on your position.
 
life watching these student's thrive. yes public school has students that go on to be productive.
For some kids the cookie cutter education isn't for them so why not let them chart their own path.
I did have 3 students in public school and the 4 was in public school until middle school, public school didn't engage him or challenge him to be his best. It wasn't what he wanted he was driven in his junior and senior year he took collage courses along with home school that took almost 2 years off his degree the 2 vets did the same thing. if they were in public school that option wasn't there.
That doesn’t begin to address what I wrote.
That option has always been there.
 
It's not in the Constitution so should be abolished.
It's in the Constitution so should be abolished.
It's against the Constitution so the Constitution should be abolished.

Take your pick.
Dayum, I'm impressed. A concise four sentence summary of everything @Rightguide has ever posted. o_O
Well done sir.
 
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