Official "Executive Order 0001": 14th Amendment null and void, no "birthright citizenship" going forward

RobDownSouth

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Jeff Bezos' newly sycophantic Washington Post has their first fawning scoop exclusive of Dictator Day:

Trump's first executive order will attempt to end birthright citizenship

Citizenship Revocation Clock for "anchor babies" like UltraChad begins today.

And so it begins....
https://i.imgur.com/CKh89pi.png
 
You couldn't wait until it actually happened?
 
Technically it was ended in the courts long ago. I posted the applicable citations and case law in the past.
It has never been decide by the courts, dipshit. The arguments continue to be specilative
 
Jeff Bezos' newly sycophantic Washington Post has their first fawning scoop exclusive of Dictator Day:

Trump's first executive order will attempt to end birthright citizenship

Citizenship Revocation Clock for "anchor babies" like UltraChad begins today.

And so it begins....
https://i.imgur.com/CKh89pi.png
They would have just a touch more dignity without the cheerleader's pom-poms.
 
LOL, trump thinks he's King. You just don't null and void an amendment because you say so. god what a fucking clown..
 
It has never been decide by the courts, dipshit. The arguments continue to be specilative
In Treeview's link above your post, it shows the arguments HAVE been litigated at the Supreme Court.

Way back in 1898. The case was United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

The Supreme Court held then that the language of the 14th amendment was clear and unambiguous. The only exception is for children born of diplomatic corps members of other countries residing in the US as a part of their foreign service duties.

Nothing else matters.

Rightguide's speculation to the contrary is a fever dream of racist xenophobia.
 
In Treeview's link above your post, it shows the arguments HAVE been litigated at the Supreme Court.

Way back in 1898. The case was United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

The Supreme Court held then that the language of the 14th amendment was clear and unambiguous. The only exception is for children born of diplomatic corps members of other countries residing in the US as a part of their foreign service duties.

Nothing else matters.

Rightguide's speculation to the contrary is a fever dream of racist xenophobia.
That was only in regards to diplomats. I was specifically discussing the Stephen Miller argument which suggests that the 14th amendment is conditional.
 
In Treeview's link above your post, it shows the arguments HAVE been litigated at the Supreme Court.

Way back in 1898. The case was United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

The Supreme Court held then that the language of the 14th amendment was clear and unambiguous. The only exception is for children born of diplomatic corps members of other countries residing in the US as a part of their foreign service duties.

Nothing else matters.

Rightguide's speculation to the contrary is a fever dream of racist xenophobia.
Did you read the case you posted? There is a VERY important caveat in there. I can assure you, it applies and it’s what President Trump is shutting down. NOT what that case addresses.

Let’s see if you can figure it out…
 
Did you read the case you posted? There is a VERY important caveat in there.
That the parents have to be in the US legally? The case did not take a position on that, since it was a moot point in the case in question. It is the subject of debate among legal scholars, but if you're looking for legal precedent for denying birthright citizenship on that basis, it ain't here.
 
That the parents have to be in the US legally? The case did not take a position on that, since it was a moot point in the case in question. It is the subject of debate among legal scholars, but if you're looking for legal precedent for denying birthright citizenship on that basis, it ain't here.

That the parents have to be in the US legally? The case did not take a position on that, since it was a moot point in the case in question. It is the subject of debate among legal scholars, but if you're looking for legal precedent for denying birthright citizenship on that basis, it ain't here.
No, that they have a have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States. I lived in a border town for 5 years and visit that same town a couple of times a year for the last 33 years. This has been a hot topic since Slick Willie roamed the closets of the Oval Office.

The parents of the babes we’re talking about don’t have a permanent residence. In fact the Baby Flights from China and the border hoppers on the southern border all come over, the stork drops said child, and they head back across…

Once the baby is born, they are automatically granted US citizenship by virtue of being born on American soil. This citizenship confers numerous benefits, including access to high-quality healthcare and education systems, potential eligibility for government welfare programs, and easier pathways to permanent residency and even citizenship for their parents.

This loophole will be closed…I assume. I haven’t studied what President Trump has put forth, but I’m willing to bet he’s not talking about the woman from Japan here on a Visa working then has a child.
 
That the parents have to be in the US legally? The case did not take a position on that, since it was a moot point in the case in question. It is the subject of debate among legal scholars, but if you're looking for legal precedent for denying birthright citizenship on that basis, it ain't here.
And if the Trump Admin tries to use that theory in court, they'll lose - even before the SCOTUS in its present formation.
 
Interestingly enough,Kash Patel is a citizen due to birthright citizenship
If his parents were already naturalized citizens when he was born/issued the birth certificate, that's not an issue.

IIRC, the 14A was to allow black slaves citizenship, after 13A and the Emancipation Proclamation were announced/passed. Loose application of the exact wording, lacking historical context, turns this issue into a rules-rapist / rules-lawyer contest, like in a Magic The Gathering match, when Interrupts were still a thing.
 
It’s pure grandstanding.

Trump: “I tried to end the corrupt birthright citizenship scam but evil people who hate our country stopped me!!!”
 
It is a very valid discussion that needs to happen.
The incentive to invade the country to give birth does need to be eliminated.
 
It is a very valid discussion that needs to happen.
The incentive to invade the country to give birth does need to be eliminated.
That isn't a 14th amendment argument.
That is an asylum reform argument.

Neither can be settled by the Executive branch.

Article 1 should hear from you.
 
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