Why LGBTQ workers say some Pride celebrations fall short

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A rainbow logo isn’t enough’—why LGBTQ workers say some Pride celebrations fall short


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A street level shot of a pride flag and corporate buildings in midtown Manhattan, New York City



June is LGBTQ Pride month, chosen to commemorate the Stonewall Riots that took place in New York City on June 28th, 1969 in response to police violence against LGBTQ people. One year later, demonstrators organized a march down Christopher Street to celebrate “Gay Pride” — a protest that has evolved into the Pride marches that can today be seen in communities around the world.

The Stonewall Riots were neither the first nor the only time LGBTQ people fought back against police harassment and the fight for LGBTQ rights has happened in workplaces as well. In the United States, some of the most visible milestones in the push for progress have been when workers have fought against discrimination from employers and business owners.

Though progress has been made since 1969, research suggests that workplaces are still failing LGBTQ people — and that temporary Pride month rainbow logos are not enough to support employees.


Discrimination and harassment

It wasn’t until last Pride month, June 2020, that the Supreme Court ruled that that U.S. workers cannot be fired for being homosexual or transgender. However, at-will employment still gives employers opportunities to fire employees for nearly any other reason they wish to give except for race, religion, sex or national origin.

And research suggests that LGBTQ workers often still face discrimination at work.

According to a recent survey of LGBTQ professionals by LinkedIn, 25% of out respondents say they have been intentionally denied career advancement opportunities (such as promotions and raises) because of their identity. A significant 31% of out respondents say they have faced blatant discrimination and microaggressions in the workplace.

The majority of those polled, 54% of managers and 52% of employees, say that their company should offer educational opportunities and bias training.

Beyond harassment and discrimination, many LGBTQ workers also report being unsatisfied with how they feel their organization supports — or rather, does not support — the LGBTQ community.

According to an analysis of company reviews by Glassdoor, LGBTQ employees are less satisfied at work compared to their non-LGBTQ counterparts.

“Unfortunately, it’s not surprising,” says Scott Dobroski, vice president of corporate communications for Glassdoor and a member of the organization’s LGBTQ+ employee resource group. “We conducted another survey that shows nearly 50% of LGBTQ+ employees believe being out at work could hurt their career. And more than half of LGBTQ+ employees report they have witnessed or experienced anti-LGBTQ+ comments by coworkers. So when you aggregate the data, the trends and the experiences of LGBTQ+ people, unfortunately, I am not surprised.”


“A rainbow logo isn’t enough”

Part of this dissatisfaction, Dobroski posits, may also stem from how some companies superficially participate in Pride Month, without engaging in the celebration’s radical political legacy — a phenomenon often referred to as “rainbow washing.

“While many companies will turn their logos and social profiles to rainbows for Pride Month, creating a more equitable company is more than just symbolic or superficial moves. It’s about action,” he says. “A rainbow logo isn’t enough.”

“Changing logos in solidarity with the community has some benefits to some members in the community because it can show that the entity is standing with them,” says Dobroski, noting that Glassdoor has also changed its logo for the month. “Where the problem comes in, is if a company is just changing its logos, or even making some sort of public statement that says ‘I stand in solidarity with this group,’ but is not taking the appropriate action inside their walls to support it.”

Kayla Gore is the executive director of My Sistah’s House, a Memphis-based organization founded to help bridge a gap in services for trans and queer people of color with an emphasis on housing. She says that often the issue of corporate participation in Pride Month boils down to standing up for LGBTQ workers outside of the office and “not trying to just capitalize off of people’s lived experiences of being proud”.

“There’s been so many opportunities over just the last couple of months for major corporations to actually take a stand against the ‘Slate of Hate’ that is happening all over the South, when it relates to anti-trans legislation,” she says. “There have been many opportunities for major corporations to say, ‘Hey, this is how we feel and we can affect a lot of things that happen in your state financially if you’re not affirming of trans people and if you don’t stop the unjust treatment and cruelty that you’re imposing, especially on trans youth,’ instead of using us as marketing strategies throughout the month of June.”

She stresses that to truly support LGBTQ+ workers, organizations should stand up for LGBTQ rights inside and outside of the office 365 days a year.

“There are other months in the year that people can show up.”
 
Company's are in business to make money. They have people employed and customers that are for, neutral, or against LGBTQ+. Can look at it as they're supporting, better than against.
Companies may be in business to make money but that doesn't give them a pass. Companies made money working with Nazi Germany, IBM made a fortune selling them the tabulating equipment that helped the Germans carry out the Final Solution with incredible efficiency, was that right? Companies when it suits them can make political calculations when it is okay to support LGBT rights, they know that the trash that is anti LGBTQ economically matter a lot less than those who are neutral or positive, not that the trash didn't try. They tried boycotting Disney for being good with LGBT employees and for things like 'Gay days", they tried boycotting companies when they passed anti discrimination policies or when they supported LGBT events. Thing is, the Trash aren't going to boycott Ford when they need a truck, they want to be able to go to Disneyland or Disney world, they aren't going to deny themselves anything, despite what they claim (all those boycotts were a joke).

Problem is the corporations play both ends against the middle, because while they are all kumbaya with LGBT rights and rainbow marketing to bring in the neutral or positive people, they are dumping tons of money at the GOP and people like Trump, Cruz, Hawley, Cawler, MJT and the rest of the GOP politicians who are to LGBT people what the Nazis were to Jews, quite literally. Oh, sure, they publicly say we won't support hate, but they dump 10's of millions via 501c4 dark money into those campaigns. In return for that, they know that there was never a GOP politician who wouldn't give huge tax breaks to the rich and corporations in return for that largesse, and they don't care if the ccompany promotes non discrimination when they enable the Cruz's of the world and the like to hurt LGBT people.
 
It's a way to endear to a certain population during a certain part of the year, every year, for more sales... while also appearing more tolerant to the rest of the population in more "liberal" nations, where this type of politics and pink money goes a long way.

Speaking as an American, there is a massive and very organized LGBT presence here, particularly in the big cities, so what more lucrative business venture can you imagine in June than to cater to the borderline, if not actual, alcoholism of metropolitan gays at Pride? Slap rainbow stickers on your beers! No, really. Heavy/ binge drinking is a serious, statistically proven problem among LGBT people, and these corporations who claim to do good by donating some portion of their rainbow-colored proceeds are feeding that problem. Those who identify as a sexual minority are more likely to abuse drugs or binge drink than those who identify as heterosexual.

So, the OP in this thread brings up some deeper issues with these corporations, but I argue that it goes even further than that.

And that's just one side of it. These companies pretend they're doing something fantastic! It's their public face, of course. It's how they gain favor. Really, they're generating good "face" -- that converts to money.


Of course, being part of pride celebrations and the like is good for business. I don't blame corporations for binge drinking during pride events, they aren't responsible for that, that is a problem as a group LGBT people have, along with drugs (and like any group, the reasons are complex, one drug/alcohol counselor at the NYC Pride center said some of it was dealing with phobic society, but some of it also was a culture of live for today, because tomorrow isn't going to come for us, which more and more, it does. It is only really in the last 15-20 years that gay group have focused on aging, for example.

I don't even mind that corporations use pride events to show how great they are and attract customers, if they were consistent. When was the last time you heard a corporation threaten to pull out of a state when they passed anti LGBT legislation? There was some hoot and holler when NC passed the bathroom law several years ago, the NBA and I think NCAA pulled tournaments from there...thing is, the law still exists there and Charlotte has all these large financial firms and the like. What good is it having non discrimination policies when you support politicians who not only refuse to pass anti discrimination laws, but who very well thanks to the GOP Scotus, basically invalidate those rules by saying they don't apply if someone is a douchebag if they claim religious faith? "Religious' liberty is not about religious liberty, ti is about illiberty, bible thumpers and other so called Christians wanting the legal right to be bigots, and they are being funded by big companies.
 
The LGBT community needs to make it very clear to these companies that we will not spend any money on their products. I wrote Chick-Fil-A for example and told them I was never eating there and I was going to encourage as many as people as possible not to eat there. The rest of them need to get the same message.
 
Here's a video that sums it up

https://youtu.be/a3_K_RD0XdE

:rolleyes:

Rainbow buses

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Everyone knows corporations jump on any bandwagon to sell products, but it's significant that LGBT+ rights are now safe enough for them to plaster crisp packets and buses with rainbow flags. In the UK last year when covid was kicking off, the NHS ( health service ) ended up with a rainbow logo too.

Yes it's disingenuous but it's better than nothing and maybe one day, the CEO's of some companies will feel brave enough to come out without it hitting their share value.
 
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Nothings ever good enough is it?

Depends what the 'nothing' is? I am sure white southerners in the Jim Crow days said that about blacks, "nothing is good enough for those people'. The rich in the 1920's, when farmers were literally going bankrupt and where people were complaining that they weren't doing so well because employers during this supposed boom time cut back wages to increase profits, said "why are the workers complaining? Isn't enough enough for them?"

A corporation using the rainbow flag to promote how great they are and in the meantime supports scumbag anti gay GOP politicians, especially the drooling evangelical ones, said poiticians putting judges on the Supreme Court who will likely reverse rulings that LGBT people are protected by sex discrimination laws and even go after Gay Marriage, when things are still so fragile for LGBT people, the answer is no, nothing is good enough until LGBT people have the same rights as anyone else and some douchebag claiming to know the bible thinks LGBT people should be stoned to death.
 
Come_Hither1 said:

Come_Hither1 said:

Come_Hither1 said:
... and maybe one day, the CEO's of some companies will feel brave enough to come out without it hitting their share value.






anyways, June has passed, which means

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But don't worry, they'll be back for Christmas


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Wow! What a crazy world this has become. Special celebrations for people that need help with mental health issues.

Yes, you definitely need help with the fact that you can’t let people live their lives (and celebrate) without being a judgmental asshole. The ignore list gains another cretin.
 
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