When did The Division begin?

[BotanyBoy]

Actual as in what's actually happening in the present, not your idealized, abstract generalizations.

How did you feel about the way Trump threw the US under the bus in China?

I'm fairly apprised of what's actually happening as well as a civilian who's not a professional journalist or political pundit could be.

As indifferent as when Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush did it. Throwing the bus in reverse and getting another dick up middle class M'aricuh's ass is par for the course.

Lol. You are truly paranoid and out of it. WHat makes you think anyone who lives in a city ever thinks about you? Pay attention to meeeeee

All the regulations and buuu shit that come out of the cities is irrefutable PROOF somebody in the big cities thinks about what the subhuman Nazi scum not living in their metro paradise are up to.

You complain that we just think of you as "flyover" and ignored you and said Fuck you who cares, and yet we ALSO "micromanage" and are up in every aspect of your lives. You wish, apparently

Jesus. All the rest of it is your insane ramblings.

More ascription from loony toons.

I never said you didn't care...I said you hate and loathe. Hatred and loathing of the working class in flyover country, especially the white people who overwhelmingly inhabit it, doesn't do anything to exclude a desire to control and micromanage it. If anything it's a Class AAA+ motive to do just that.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

What exactly did Trump say in China?

How did it differ from what he said on the campaign trail?

Waiting your answer

Regulations and buuu shit affect cities, too. I guarantee my taxes are way higher living in NYC, especially since I have to pay NJ and NY taxes. What exactly is being targeted at rural areas, specifically?

Why should Gubmint protect or help the working/middle class? I thought capitalism was freedom and leave everyone alone?

So they're supposed to be "helping" by . . . doing nothing.

yes, you say both. We denigrate you as not worthy of attention (ie. "the flyover states" and the constant whine that Hillary "ignored the working class") and yet we also wake up in the morning wondering how to actively screw you over. How, I wonder?

Po' rural whites consume WAY more of the revenue, gubmint programs, subsidies and Obamacare than cities. If you didn't have our tax money, god knows what would happen.

Yawn at your constant paranoid ASCRIPTION that "we hate and loathe you." You love telling other people what they hate and think, at the same time all you do is vent your hatred of "us."

I'm fairly apprised of what's actually happening as well as a civilian who's not a professional journalist or political pundit could be.

As indifferent as when Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush did it. Throwing the bus in reverse and getting another dick up middle class M'aricuh's ass is par for the course.

All the regulations and buuu shit that come out of the cities is irrefutable PROOF somebody in the big cities thinks about what the subhuman Nazi scum not living in their metro paradise are up to.

More ascription from loony toons.

I never said you didn't care...I said you hate and loathe. Hatred and loathing of the working class in flyover country, especially the white people who overwhelmingly inhabit it, doesn't do anything to exclude a desire to control and micromanage it. If anything it's a Class AAA+ motive to do just that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What exactly did Trump say in China?

How did it differ from what he said on the campaign trail?

Waiting your answer

Don't know don't care. What about the other hundreds if not thousands of campaign promises politicians of every stripe break every day across this country?

Doesn't matter, unless you're a fucking idiot.

Regulations and buuu shit affect cities, too. I guarantee my taxes are way higher living in NYC, especially since I have to pay NJ and NY taxes. What exactly is being targeted at rural areas, specifically?

1) Taxes =/=regulation.

2) Pretty much all your bullshit that doesn't apply to rural life. From your idiotic gun laws to market mongering and appropriating natural resources for idiots who set up shop in absurd locations.

Why should Gubmint protect or help the working/middle class? I thought capitalism was freedom and leave everyone alone?

I don't know you tell me, your team is the one that advocates fucking them into poverty to protect them.

Capitalism is economic freedom.

yes, you say both.

No I don't, you ascribe bullshit.

Yawn at your constant paranoid ASCRIPTION that "we hate and loathe you."

You've openly stated your hatred for both gun toting redneck Americans (rural America) and white people. So have many other (D)ipshit social justice morons.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

What exactly did Trump say in China?

How did it differ from what he said on the campaign trail?

Waiting your answer

Regulations and buuu shit affect cities, too. I guarantee my taxes are way higher living in NYC, especially since I have to pay NJ and NY taxes. What exactly is being targeted at rural areas, specifically?

Why should Gubmint protect or help the working/middle class? I thought capitalism was freedom and leave everyone alone?

So they're supposed to be "helping" by . . . doing nothing.

yes, you say both. We denigrate you as not worthy of attention (ie. "the flyover states" and the constant whine that Hillary "ignored the working class") and yet we also wake up in the morning wondering how to actively screw you over. How, I wonder?

Po' rural whites consume WAY more of the revenue, gubmint programs, subsidies and Obamacare than cities. If you didn't have our tax money, god knows what would happen.

Yawn at your constant paranoid ASCRIPTION that "we hate and loathe you." You love telling other people what they hate and think, at the same time all you do is vent your hatred of "us."

Their guy is such a steaming pile that all they can do is try to defend him and those around him with absurd excuses or to hate the messengers like you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Their guy is such a steaming pile that all they can do is try to defend him and those around him with absurd excuses or to hate the messengers like you.

LOL!!! I love it, shitting on (D)'s and pointing out their hypocrisy = defending Trump?

LOL!!

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Like I said, you are a big fraud and you know nothing about ACTUAL politics

Don't know don't care.

 

[Rightguide]

The division began when we kicked the Communists out of the government and out of Hollywood and into academia.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Lol. So we "micromanage" and "control" you by making laws that "don't apply to rural life." That makes sense.

Our "idiotic gun laws?" Bwa ha ha ha ha. What "idiotic gun laws?" Name one that hurts people in "rural life."

I love how city dwellers are to blame for everything. Newsflash: Cities are blue, remember? What about the RED map that put Rs in charge of everything? YOu have the gubmint you want now. Trump cared about the "forgotten man" that we supposedly "micromanage and control" even though Whoops, we "forgot" them.

Why are you bitching about "appropriating natural resources?" That's just capitalism, remember? Let you alone to do what you want, remember? Are you saying you want more gubmint intervention and regulations?

Pretty much all your bullshit that doesn't apply to rural life. From your idiotic gun laws to market mongering and appropriating natural resources for idiots who set up shop in absurd locations.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No, the division began with you freaks.

Case in point: All those Christians down in Alabama admitting they would rather vote for a child molester than a Democrat.

The division began when we kicked the Communists out of the government and out of Hollywood and into academia.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

In my lifetime Ds and Rs in congress were able to work together on bipartisan issues until the Clinton administration, Newt, Whitewater, Ken Star and all that shit.

 

[Rightguide]

No, the division began with you freaks.

Case in point: All those Christians down in Alabama admitting they would rather vote for a child molester than a Democrat.

Hey stupid. The age of consent in Alabama in 1880 was 10, back when the South was completely controlled by feral Democrats. So, up until them it was always that way. In 1920 it was raised to 16. The woman who is accusing Moore who said she was 14 at the time has already been shown to have been 17, not 14. So as reprehensible as the age difference was it was legal if consensual and she's not saying she was raped, only kissed.

 

[Rightguide]

In my lifetime Ds and Rs in congress were able to work together on bipartisan issues until the Clinton administration, Newt, Whitewater, Ken Star and all that shit.

There isn't but one or two moderate Democrats in the Democrat Party. The two leaders, Perez and Ellison, are both communist sympathizers, look at their record and history.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Been reading Breitbart?

1. Wrong. She was 14.

2. Wrong. It was not consensual, because she was 14, and because she says so.

3. He did much more than kiss her, stupid.

4. And thus proving the point: Ring Wing Nuts live in their own little world of make-believe.

Hey stupid. The age of consent in Alabama in 1880 was 10, back when the South was completely controlled by feral Democrats. So, up until them it was always that way. In 1920 it was raised to 16. The woman who is accusing Moore who said she was 14 at the time has already been shown to have been 17, not 14. So as reprehensible as the age difference was it was legal if consensual and she's not saying she was raped, only kissed.

 

[phrodeau]

At least she wasn't his cousin.

 

[sr71plt]

At least she wasn't his cousin.

As far as we know. It's Alabama, you know. And there must be some biological reason for Alabama brains.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

There isn't but one or two moderate Democrats in the Democrat Party. The two leaders, Perez and Ellison, are both communist sympathizers, look at their record and history.

Well, I'm not a Democrat so I wouldn't know about that but it's interesting to me when the right wing expresses the old communist paranoia. Are the communists a threat to America? Are you expecting China or Cuba to infiltrate the American government and turn us all into commies? Are you also concerned about former KGB agents who control nuclear arsenals?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

30 witnesses, for the victims.

The Republicans have known, all along, what he is.

Are the pages and interns safer from harassment and abuse, this year ? The offices were exposed as pens for sexist pigs. A mirror reflection of FOX TV studios and offices. ( Bill O’Reilly ? Roger Ailes ?) That taste of power and influence goes to their heads. Their good friends have got their backs. Mutual destruction pact. Money scandals are acceptable. Republicans project an image, with wives, children, Bibles, and religious congregations. Sex scandals are the ultimate deadly weapon. Trump boasted he could kill someone in public. What stops Trump from boasting that he could rape someone in public ?


The victims and witnesses do not matter, to those that want to push Roy Moore up the ladder ?

(It might not matter, to those who want to consolidate, and increase their power. But, it might matter to the voters. This might be a step too far.)

What is it, that we are looking at ?

Just when you start thinking the Republican party could sink no lower...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/gop-to-alabama-vote-for-an-accused-child-molester.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/roy-moores-many-defenders/545609/

 

[BotanyBoy]

Like I said, you are a big fraud and you know nothing about ACTUAL politics

Hating on Trump =/= ACTUAL politics. He's little more than a big distraction from ACTUAL politics .

Lol. So we "micromanage" and "control" you by making laws that "don't apply to rural life." That makes sense.

Yes...and it's fucking annoying as hell. Please stop.

Our "idiotic gun laws?" Bwa ha ha ha ha. What "idiotic gun laws?" Name one that hurts people in "rural life."

Your precious rifle and rifle accessories ban to deal with a pistol problem is a favorite dumbass attack you and your ilk love to push.

Duty to retreat...fuckin' LAME and undoubtedly from some fucker who lives next to a police station.

Anti-stand your ground/castle laws....again from a bunch of privileged fuckers who can't think of anyone but themselves.

I love how city dwellers are to blame for everything. Newsflash: Cities are blue, remember?

They are also the population centers who push policy, remember??

Why are you bitching about "appropriating natural resources?"

Because the state tells me I can't have access to the water on my own property.

And it came out of Los Angeles and San Franfuckhead......two huge blue shit holes.

That's just capitalism, remember?

In what world is the state owning the water so they can send it to a bunch of morons who built a megaplex in the desert, capitalism?

You need to grab a dictionary, encyclopedia or get your broke ass a legit education as it seems you don't have the slightest clue as to what Capitalism is.

 

[phrodeau]

Sounds like BotanyBoy lives in a real shithole. But I guess he likes it there.

 

[Rightguide]

Been reading Breitbart?

1. Wrong. She was 14.

2. Wrong. It was not consensual, because she was 14, and because she says so.

3. He did much more than kiss her, stupid.

4. And thus proving the point: Ring Wing Nuts live in their own little world of make-believe.

How do you know? Her say so doesn't "prove" anything, stupid. The last time I looked it isn't up to the accused to prove his innocence, it's up to the accuser to prove his guilt, stupid.

If that "proof" is forthcoming I will be the first to get on your bandwagon. So far, all I see is a contrived political hit job.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sounds like BotanyBoy lives in a real shithole. But I guess he likes it there.

No I got out of the dark blue bay area.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Not at all. What he says and does matters. So does policy. So does funding and donors. So does everything going on NOW, not the bullshit idealisms you rant about, totally disconnected from what's actually going on.

Hating on Trump =/= ACTUAL politics. He's little more than a big distraction from ACTUAL politics .

Rifle and rifle accessories ban? Where? There haven't been any BANS or gun control LAWS enacted in years and years. Again, you have a GENERAL vs. REAL and SPECIFIC problem.

And how has anything stopped any wife beating dumb fuck from getting ahold of any single weapon he wants?

Your precious rifle and rifle accessories ban to deal with a pistol problem is a favorite dumbass attack you and your ilk love to push.

Duty to retreat...fuckin' LAME and undoubtedly from some fucker who lives next to a police station.

Anti-stand your ground/castle laws....again from a bunch of privileged fuckers who can't think of anyone but themselves.

Wrong.

Blue cities (D) are pretty much out of power. All R, R Red State (Rural Dumb Fucks) in power.

They are also the population centers who push policy, remember??

I'm sure there's a damn good reason for it.

Because the state tells me I can't have access to the water on my own property.

And it came out of Los Angeles and San Franfuckhead......two huge blue shit holes

.

No idea what you're ranting about.

A "megaplex" sounds like a bidness. So the "state" is funneling water to a bidness.

In what world is the state owning the water so they can send it to a bunch of morons who built a megaplex in the desert, capitalism?

You need to grab a dictionary, encyclopedia or get your broke ass a legit education as it seems you don't have the slightest clue as to what Capitalism is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not at all. What he says and does matters.

No, it doesn't.

It's an extremely RARE event that what POTUS says effects the daily life of the average american citizen. 99.99999999% of it is tabloid fodder.

Rifle and rifle accessories ban? Where? There haven't been any BANS or gun control LAWS enacted in years and years.

Every state with "assault rifle" (rifle accessories they don't actually ban rifles) ban.

And the one they are pushing right now while (D) feelz are high! Just because you didn't notice the worthless bullshit laws only speaks to their ineffectiveness.

And how has anything stopped any wife beating dumb fuck from getting ahold of any single weapon he wants?

Yes, it has.

And your hatred for the rural folks is coming out again as I knew it would.

Gun owner =/= wife beater, you're a bigot.

Wrong.

Blue cities (D) are pretty much out of power. All R, R Red State (Rural Dumb Fucks) in power.

Considering the worst of them are in CA and NY, not really.

Nice display of your hatred again.

No idea what you're ranting about.

A "megaplex" sounds like a bidness. So the "state" is funneling water to a bidness.

Not really shocking considering you think tabloid bullshit is "ACTUAL" politics.

No the state is SELLING water to all businesses and people.

When the state appropriates the means (like natural resources) it's not called capitalism.

Definition of capitalism

:an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism


But we do have a word for state ownership and distribution of the means and markets.......guess what that word is?

Definition of socialism

1 :any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a :a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b :a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 :a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Lol ^^

Thinks we live in a country with an aggregiously over-regulated gun business that is "ineffective," yet somehow deprives rural folk of their rights.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lol ^^

Thinks we live in a country with an aggregiously over-regulated gun business that is "ineffective," yet somehow deprives rural folk of their rights.

I never said deprive, that's ascription.

Your over-regulation of guns is ineffective though.