Except in that case, the polls were fairly accurate taken as the whole of the popular vote. It was only when the votes were mangled by the electoral college system that Cheeto was declared the winner - and Clinton conceded.
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No it wasn't. Trump won but Hillary had a 2.1% lead in the popular vote (Trump 46.1% to Clinton 48.2%) not even close to 6%. The disclaimer for most polls says accuracy is in doubt under 5% difference. Besides, this report:
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-election-polls-confident-accurate.html
says most polls are 95% confident in their conclusions, but only 60% accurate. Good odds in Vagas. Not so much in prognosticating what the American public is going to do.
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They were correct in predicting Hillary would have more votes, but by 6% instead of 2.1%. A difference of 3.9%, within the 5% margin.
Shocking inaccuracy.
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No sorry dude. Tweaking the numbers doesn't make it right. Yes, Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. However the the original prognostication was 6% OUTSIDE the margin of error for a poll and therefore by their standards supposibly accurate, which it wasn't.
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Biden edges out…the Cheeto, but is a a few points behind either Ron or Nikki.
(and it’s a Propaganda network poll too)
Yet, the Cheeto is still ahead with the Pubs. Fun to have folks with their eye on the prize.
(and it’s a Propaganda network poll too)
Yet, the Cheeto is still ahead with the Pubs. Fun to have folks with their eye on the prize.
And whatever the Cheeto raised is inflated, because that’s how it’s done in “business”
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These days we have a glimpse of the world the isolationists want you to live in. A world without US security guarantees. A world where people straight-face apologize for — even celebrate — genocidal, atavistic barbarism. For those who parrot isolationist slogans for the sake of media attention, I hope you’re ready for the world you’ve chosen to live in.
Americans are not quarantined from the consequences of this violent world. No country is. And if you think America’s past sins mean we should pass the baton to countries like China, Russia, and Iran — well, I hope you’re ready to live in that world. Because it is the height of naive stupidity to think that two oceans are a big enough barrier to protect us.
The veneer of civilization is razor thin. Hiding just under the surface are the DNA strands that led to Bucha and October 7. We, as a species, are always treading water over the abyss. And if we stop kicking, we sink, quickly and easily, into those dark depths from which we thought we had escaped.
Under the four years of Trump, America had four years where we entered no new wars. No war in Ukraine. No outbreak in the Middle East. Trump brought peace and stability to the world from a position of strength.
Under Biden, we've had the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Russian invasion of Ukraine. War in the Middle East. And he's still got a year left to start WW3. Biden has brought the world war and instability through weakness and incompetence. Choose wisely in 2024, because you WILL get what you vote for.
Americans are not quarantined from the consequences of this violent world. No country is. And if you think America’s past sins mean we should pass the baton to countries like China, Russia, and Iran — well, I hope you’re ready to live in that world. Because it is the height of naive stupidity to think that two oceans are a big enough barrier to protect us.
The veneer of civilization is razor thin. Hiding just under the surface are the DNA strands that led to Bucha and October 7. We, as a species, are always treading water over the abyss. And if we stop kicking, we sink, quickly and easily, into those dark depths from which we thought we had escaped.
Under the four years of Trump, America had four years where we entered no new wars. No war in Ukraine. No outbreak in the Middle East. Trump brought peace and stability to the world from a position of strength.
Under Biden, we've had the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Russian invasion of Ukraine. War in the Middle East. And he's still got a year left to start WW3. Biden has brought the world war and instability through weakness and incompetence. Choose wisely in 2024, because you WILL get what you vote for.
I actually agree with Chloe, she's right, so what do Americans want, to elect Republicans, or Democrats. One only has to look to the shit show people are calling the House to gleam the correct answer of which party is better suited to govern. You may not agree with all the policies of the Democrats, but at least they can write and pass legislation and not run the country to the brink of financial disaster through the inability to even coalesce around a leader.
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Trump: Peace
Biden: Afghanistan fuckup. Started war in Ukraine. Instrumental on Hamas attacking Israel.
Your decision. I go for the fat slob over the dementia patient anytime
Biden: Afghanistan fuckup. Started war in Ukraine. Instrumental on Hamas attacking Israel.
Your decision. I go for the fat slob over the dementia patient anytime
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They were.
You do notice none of them dicked around with Trump. They were worried he WOULD invade if they did. Peace thru strength. And suspecting he would use it.
Biden by comparison has displayed weakness and incompetence every step of the way. All this war and chaos is, quite simply, because we elected a weak and incompetent President, and everyone knows it. Afghanistan demonstrated it. Ukraine cemented it. Hamas is the desert.
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Biden didn't start the war in Ukraine.
The initial annexation of Crimea that started the Ukraine conflict happened under Obama. The conflict continued under Trump; not much aggression but plenty of consolidation. Putin may have been happy with his domination of the US presidency, it's not often that Russia gets to control the personal bank accounts of the president. Then under Biden's term, Putin invaded Ukraine, a European country. Biden didn't start the war, it's crazy to suggest he did.
The United Nations support Ukraine; Biden supports the UN. Trump said that he wanted to disband NATO.
Man Woman Camera Person (erm) TV.
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You're a special kind of moron.
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He was instrumental in triggering it
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You're obviously a Biden voter. Makes morons look like geniuses. LOL
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Putin invaded Ukraine. Russia started the Ukranian war.
Putin could've easily not done so and was warned by other countries not to do so and they ignored the warnings and did so anyway.
Adding - Hamas attacked Israel indiscriminately which started the current conflict there.
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No he was not.
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You've voted for Trump at least twice, stable genius. There's no one dumber on this rock than people who still support this grifter.
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