Seven delusions plaguing the mind of the Trump base voter

[adrina]

Seven delusions plaguing the mind of the Trump base voter​

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...ns-plaguing-the-mind-of-the-trump-base-voter/

1. Deceptive Rationalization
   • Whatever Trump says or does, no matter the evidence to the contrary, his loyal followers normalize, downplay, excuse, and rationalize his behaviors, speech, and legal issues.
2. Respect for the strong-man image
   • American masculinity is under attack. Trump appeals to the MAGA mindset by exemplifying the 20th-century fighting persona of great American manhood. To his fans, he is John Wayne or Rocky Balboa, someone who takes no crap and fights to the end.
3. Biden is much worse than Trump
   • When I discussed Trump’s dictatorial language with Trump-voting friends, one said, “Biden is not an option.” Another remarked, “I’ll take Trump any day over Biden. He is better than what we have now.”
4. Whataboutism
   • Comparing Trump to Biden and his son Hunter is a favorite MAGA mind game. For every controversial Trump action, there is a Biden equivalent that evens the playing field. Trump and his voters believe Biden has weaponized the government, most notably the Justice Department.
5. Rural/blue-collar America gives its middle finger to governmental authority
   • For Trump’s supporters, he personifies turning the tables on authority with a “stick it to the boss” mentality.
6. Trump represents an America First policy agenda that gets things done.
   • In Iowa last week, as before, Trump bragged, “I kept Israel safe. I kept Ukraine safe. None of this stuff would have happened. And I kept the entire world safe….And as the 47th president…we will do it again.” And the crowds cheer wildly.
7. Us-versus-Them mentality
   • “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said on Nov. 11 in New Hampshire.

The author is not wrong. With 50+ years of conservative propaganda, they really do think that democrats and liberals are the enemy.

 

[Kioti3510]

I haven't committed to any candidate in the upcoming presidential election and honestly I do not believe Trump is the best Republican candidate. But do tell me how blindly following Biden and believing he is the best choice to lead the country makes you any different from those who believe Trump is the best choice.

 

[adrina]

I haven't committed to any candidate in the upcoming presidential election but do tell me how blindly following Biden and believing he is the best choice to lead the country makes you any different from those who believe Trump is the best choice.

Demonstrate said blind allegiance.

I don't blindly follow Biden. I know he has his faults and is not perfect. However, with the public transportation model of politics, he'll get us closer to where I want us to be.

That really can't be said of Trump. Given he doesn't lead where they say they want to be. But that's part of #1.

 

[Kioti3510]

Demonstrate said blind allegiance.

I don't blindly follow Biden. I know he has his faults and is not perfect. However, with the public transportation model of politics, he'll get us closer to where I want us to be.

That really can't be said of Trump. Given he doesn't lead where they say they want to be. But that's part of #1.

Blind allegiance is you continue to support him despite his faults and imperfections. I have moved away from Trump because he is tainted and even if he is elected the Dems will stop him from doing anything.

 

[colddiesel]

I do not believe Trump is the best Republican candidate. But do tell me how blindly following Biden and believing he is the best choice to lead the country makes you any different from those who believe Trump is the best choice.

Biden may not be the best candidate but he has one huge advantage over Trump. Competent people with relevant experience will work for and with Biden. Considering the galaxy of crooks, carpetbaggers and incompetents that pleaded for pardons as they left his orbit last time, do you imagine for a split second that anyone who is even modestly honest or competent will work for Trump in future.

Trump can be judged by the company he keeps and employs. All trash.

 

[Kioti3510]

Biden may not be the best candidate but he has one huge advantage over Trump. Competent people with relevant experience will work for and with Biden. Considering the galaxy of crooks, carpetbaggers and incompetents that pleaded for pardons as they left his orbit last time, do you imagine for a split second that anyone who is even modestly honest or competent will work for Trump in future.

Trump can be judged by the company he keeps and employs. All trash.

Many of those working for Biden were former Obama team members.

 

[adrina]

Blind allegiance is you continue to support him despite his faults and imperfections. I have moved away from Trump because he is tainted and even if he is elected the Dems will stop him from doing anything.

No, I continue to support him because of his accomplishments, competence and policies.

I'm not sure how you so grossly misunderstood what I said. Unless you are looking to.

 

[YDB95]

Many of those working for Biden were former Obama team members.

Yes, and Obama is the best president we've had in decades. Why wouldn't Biden want to continue with members of his team?

 

[DeluxAuto]

Just seven?

 

[RandyRebecca]

If Trump wins, it's the Democrats who are responsible. They still do bipartisan deals with conservatives, and oppose socialists more than the Manchin types and conservative Republicans. Biden is the one doing things like breaking a rail strike, taking America into two new wars with billions and billions of dollars of our federal taxes spent on them, which in turn causes inflation of course. Who in their right mind would vote for that, before we even get to Biden's support for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Palestine?

Look back at history. Why did the Democrats lose the presidency in 1968? Johnson's Vietnam War, of course, and the DNC forcing his vice president, Humphrey, as the nominee for president. The DNC would rather lose to Nixon/Trump than have the most leftist side in the Democratic Party make any gains. They still think this, even as they shout about Trump emulating Julius Caesar by planning a dictatorship. The DNC still fear socialists more than they fear Trump as America's Caesar. Why? Big business class interests, where the working class and middle class are the enemy.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Just seven?

If Trump wins, it's the Democrats who are responsible. They still do bipartisan deals with conservatives, and oppose socialists more than the Manchin types and conservative Republicans. Biden is the one doing things like breaking a rail strike, taking America into two new wars with billions and billions of dollars of our federal taxes spent on them, which in turn causes inflation of course. Who in their right mind would vote for that, before we even get to Biden's support for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Palestine?

Look back at history. Why did the Democrats lose the presidency in 1968? Johnson's Vietnam War, of course, and the DNC forcing his vice president as the nominee for president. They never learn the lessons of history.

Damn, there's seven in one post.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Damn, there's seven in one post.

Are you denying that what I said is the truth?

"Vote blue, no matter who" Democrats live in just as much a fantasy world as MAGA fanatical Republicans.

 

[Kioti3510]

Yes, and Obama is the best president we've had in decades. Why wouldn't Biden want to continue with members of his team?

Now I am hoping you are trying to be funny here. And yeah I voted for him, twice. And I regret both of them. One saving grace is hillary didn't win her bid for the presidency. Well, since many believe Obama is still calling the shots of course he would want his team supporting him.

 

[adrina]

If Trump wins, it's the Democrats who are responsible. They still do bipartisan deals with conservatives, and oppose socialists more than the Manchin types and conservative Republicans. Biden is the one doing things like breaking a rail strike, taking America into two new wars with billions and billions of dollars of our federal taxes spent on them, which in turn causes inflation of course. Who in their right mind would vote for that, before we even get to Biden's support for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Palestine?

Look back at history. Why did the Democrats lose the presidency in 1968? Johnson's Vietnam War, of course, and the DNC forcing his vice president, Humphrey, as the nominee for president. The DNC would rather lose to Nixon/Trump than have the most leftist side in the Democratic Party make any gains.

It would be the American electorate - voters and non-voters alike - who would be responsible.

Trump can't elect himself. That has to come from the people.

 

[Lazaran]

No, I continue to support him because of his accomplishments, competence and policies.

I'm not sure how you so grossly misunderstood what I said. Unless you are looking to.

KiotiUgly is a TrailerHitch alt.

That ^ explains it.

*nods*

 

[Kioti3510]

No, I continue to support him because of his accomplishments, competence and policies.

I'm not sure how you so grossly misunderstood what I said. Unless you are looking to.

Competence? he can't even find his way off the stage have the time. He can't make a complete coherent sentence. He's got us deeply involved in 2 wars. Explain his competence to me.

 

[Kioti3510]

If Trump wins, it's the Democrats who are responsible. They still do bipartisan deals with conservatives, and oppose socialists more than the Manchin types and conservative Republicans. Biden is the one doing things like breaking a rail strike, taking America into two new wars with billions and billions of dollars of our federal taxes spent on them, which in turn causes inflation of course. Who in their right mind would vote for that, before we even get to Biden's support for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Palestine?

Look back at history. Why did the Democrats lose the presidency in 1968? Johnson's Vietnam War, of course, and the DNC forcing his vice president, Humphrey, as the nominee for president. The DNC would rather lose to Nixon/Trump than have the most leftist side in the Democratic Party make any gains. They still think this, even as they shout about Trump emulating Julius Caesar by planning a dictatorship. The DNC still fear socialists more than they fear Trump as America's Caesar. Why? Big business class interests, where the working class and middle class are the enemy.

BOOM! Mic drop and walk away!

 

[Kioti3510]

KiotiUgly is a TrailerHitch alt.

That ^ explains it.

*nods*

Duh...Great detective work since I admitted than about 3 months ago.

 

[RandyRebecca]

It would be the American electorate - voters and non-voters alike - who would be responsible.

Biden goes against the interests of the people whose votes he needs in 2024, and so blatantly, yet the DNC and Biden expect to pay no political price for what they do. They live in a fantasy world. For example, Michigan is a pivotal swing state that happens to have a considerable number of Muslim voters, whom Biden has totally alienated. Yet Biden and the DNC expect them to vote the same way as 2020.

Trump can't elect himself. That has to come from the people.

Trump raging against the rotten corrupt institutions would win him a lot of support. The biggest lies are always shrouded in truth. And now, unlike 2020, Trump is the outsider again, not the incumbent. What will Biden say if Trump asks people "Are you better off now than 4 years ago?".

 

[adrina]

Competence? he can't even find his way off the stage have the time. He can't make a complete coherent sentence. He's got us deeply involved in 2 wars. Explain his competence to me.

Yes. Competence. I'll even give you a list. Although far from complete. But will you accept it and hear it or are you just going to continue to regurgitate propaganda?

Infrastructure.
Student loan forgiveness despite GOP opposition at every turn.
Record unemployment.
Safer Communities Act.
American Rescue Plan
CHIPS and Science Act.

Etc.


ETA... anyone who supported Trump at any time has no standing to criticize any other person's speech. Ever.

 

[Kioti3510]

Biden goes against the interests of the people whose votes he needs in 2024, and so blatantly, yet the DNC and Biden expect to pay no political price for what they do. They live in a fantasy world. For example, Michigan is a pivotal swing state that happens to have a considerable number of Muslim voters, whom Biden has totally alienated. Yet Biden and the DNC expect them to vote the same way as 2020.


Trump raging against the rotten corrupt institutions would win him a lot of support. The biggest lies are always shrouded in truth. And now, unlike 2020, Trump is the outsider again, not the incumbent. What will Biden say if Trump asks people "Are you better off now than 4 years ago?".

No average American is better of now than they were 4 years ago.

 

[GirlFur]

Just seven?

I was gonna say

 

[adrina]

Biden goes against the interests of the people whose votes he needs in 2024, and so blatantly, yet the DNC and Biden expect to pay no political price for what they do. They live in a fantasy world. For example, Michigan is a pivotal swing state that happens to have a considerable number of Muslim voters, whom Biden has totally alienated. Yet Biden and the DNC expect them to vote the same way as 2020.


Trump raging against the rotten corrupt institutions would win him a lot of support. The biggest lies are always shrouded in truth. And now, unlike 2020, Trump is the outsider again, not the incumbent. What will Biden say if Trump asks people "Are you better off now than 4 years ago?".

That yes, we are. Without even a fucking doubt. If you can't see that, then shit oh dear darlin' I think your perception is more than a bit off.

Reality is what it is.

These are adults.

If they can't figure out that Trump sucks and that Biden is the only other viable option, then frankly American gets what it deserves. Because people think fucking off their civic duty is an option.

Be pissed off at the democrats. It's the thing. Although quite passe at this point. Are the people of the United States adults or not?

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yes. Competence. I'll even give you a list. Although far from incomplete. But will you accept it and hear it or are you just going to continue to regurgitate propaganda?

Infrastructure.
Student loan forgiveness despite GOP opposition at every turn.
Record unemployment.
Safer Communities Act.
American Rescue Plan
CHIPS and Science Act.

Etc.

That's another thing, infrastructure bills. What were they really about? I think they were about ensuring inflation instead of deflation for Biden's upcoming war plans. In other words, instead of falling commodity costs and bills, rising commodity costs and bills to make ordinary people pay the price and boost corporate profits. It was a million miles away from Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deals.

And what new jobs are there? Where are they? What wages? One of the big reason's for Trump's 2016 win was his opposition to NAFTA that George H.W. Bush set up, and Bill Clinton introduced. A lot of blue collar workers in America's deindustrialized towns felt that someone serious on the federal level was listening to them at last, while the Democrats were content to ship industrial jobs to cheap labor areas abroad with low wages, and to use mass immigration at home to ensure that workers' wages remained low in the US, all the while the richest got even richer still.

Go back to the 1990s, and there was Ross Perot in politics before Donald Trump. Perot said it at the time, a giant sucking sound.

 

[adrina]

That's another thing, infrastructure bills. What were they really about? I think they were about ensuring inflation instead of deflation for Biden's upcoming war plans. In other words, instead of falling commodity costs and bills, rising commodity costs and bills to make ordinary people pay the price and boost corporate profits.

And what new jobs are there? Where are they? What wages? One of the big reason's for Trump's 2016 win was his opposition to NAFTA that George H.W. Bush set up, and Bill Clinton introduced. A lot of blue collar workers in America's deindustrialized towns felt that someone serious on the federal level was listening to them at last, while the Democrats were content to ship industrial jobs to cheap labor areas abroad with low wages, and to use mass immigration at home to ensure that workers' wages remained low in the US, all the while the richest got even richer still.

Greedflation. That's what is going on. Not inflation. Corporate profiteering.

At this point, you've kinda jumped the shark at this.

Blaming democrats for corporate America is not only inaccurate but honestly naive.