Virtue had nothing to do with it, honey.
Puerto Rico's new Governor demands statehood; US should cut it loose
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Virtue had nothing to do with it, honey.
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Communism/Socialism predates the Founders and they were just as aware of its flaws as they were of the fatality for anything larger than a City-State of pure Democracy. This is part of why the thought the Federal Government should be saddled with a charter of negative liberties...
That which so bothered our outgoing President who wanted a Constitution that defined what the Federal Government should do 'for' people (to which a true liberal realizes is 'to' us).
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I think we just traded one flavor of socialism for another.
Trump has already been meddling in markets and I have absolutely no doubt he will continue to do so.
I would be genuinely shocked if he did any sort of significant much less thought out deregulation towards open/free markets of any kind. I'm betting he whores out to fill his pockets and not be shot, just like they all do.
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Yeah, his economics are Mercantilian and his leadership style is Teddy Roosevelt Progressive...
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PS - He won't do it for personal gain, unless you can count glory and accolade in dollars.
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Not how I saw it.....but accurate.
Add self preservation to the mix and it changes the whole cocktail man.
He knows he has to play ball, he can virtue signal and play PR games all he wants but he still has to play.
If he tries to cancel the game as it's currently understood? They, somebody, will cancel him.
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I swear on everything Holy, as an Atheist, that Shep Smith is already laying out the grounds for impeachment...
If nothing else, The Orange Don has rocked the liberal world.
Now it's time to rawk the Casbah!
If nothing else, The Orange Don has rocked the liberal world.
Now it's time to rawk the Casbah!
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Everyone wants him out....(R)'s want Pence, (D)'s cant see past their hate to care about the price, they just want him dead at all costs.
I think the great Triggering of 2016 was the highlight of the Trump presidency.
If he fires up the war on drugs again in full force that would be nice too, I'd like nothing more than to watch the DEA come in and federal supremacy the shit out of California and Colorado both. Take all these freshly licenced big money elitist that shut out all the grass roots small folks and I hope AG Sessions fucks them all federal mandatory minimum style.
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Okay
That last bit. I really did lol. I am a very bad man...
That last bit. I really did lol. I am a very bad man...
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Well, fuck em.....they ran with this for the people bidniz and then at the last second and in CA's case even retroactively change it to put these huge bucks into the hands of the elite and fuck everyone else.
So fuck them, I got nothing to loose now
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So dignity has fled the room?
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So dignity has fled the room?
I guess?
I got conned by the Democraps...they had me fooled into their bullshit working party blah blah bullshit. I thought maybe they would toss me a crumb and I could live with that. Which it looked like they were going to do right up until they didn't.
When it came time to actually deliver, wouldn't you know they acted just like Republicans, nothing more than goons for the highest bidders. They are all the same scum....the dozen or so folks who aren't scum are labeled unelectable lunatics.
So fuck all of them
Feds vs. California........it will just be glorious socialist vs socialist political gore porn as far as I'm concerned. So yea I hope Trump raw dogs CA prison shower style.
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I guess?
I got conned by the Democraps...they had me fooled into their bullshit working party blah blah bullshit. I thought maybe they would toss me a crumb and I could live with that. Which it looked like they were going to do right up until they didn't.
When it came time to actually deliver, wouldn't you know they acted just like Republicans, nothing more than goons for the highest bidders. They are all the same scum....the dozen or so folks who aren't scum are labeled unelectable lunatics.
So fuck all of them
Feds vs. California........it will just be glorious socialist vs socialist political gore porn as far as I'm concerned. So yea I hope Trump raw dogs CA prison shower style.
I grew up in the Democratic Party. Outside of my paternal uncle, all of my family was employed by unions. As Reagan said, the party left me, but as smart as he was was insightful as his writings were, I don't think he understood how deep the hooks of Fabian Socialists were into America. I think he even supported some of it, just in a smarter fashion.
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They are not self-supporting. Therefore they would be a supplicant state.
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Neither are most red states in the US.
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At this point, you will probably not be surprised at how many people in the US see/hear a phrase like that with enthusiastic resonance.
Damn right. We don't get to pretend we are the good guys while doing that. Seriously when did being scum become the sortof thing we are proud of instead of. . .oh right Trump. Sorry carry on shit lickers.
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Show me where you or anyone has a right to economic equality......name the amendment that one is guaranteed in I fucking dare you.
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It's common fucking sense. It's like asking which amendment says you get to breathe. They didn't cover that. Or eat. Also not covered. Wear clothing. Oops.
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Only in the commie universe.
In the real world if you don't go out and fuck for it you get the shit end of the stick.
Not everybody gets to be a fuckin' rock star man....boo hoo. Economic equality is a communist fantasy because people are not equal.
14th.
"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
They aren't, people starve/freeze to death every fuckin' day.
That's what happens when you make shitty choices.
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Economic equality is not equal outcomes but equal opportunity.
Just because the Constitution doesn't state the American Dream doesn't make it false. Sorry.
Just because the Constitution doesn't state the American Dream doesn't make it false. Sorry.
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You and other (D)'s and lefty folks always say that but what do you always want?
Welfare.....argued by what? Unequal outcomes = racisim/sexism/ this ism/thatism!! and must be remedied through 'regulation' limiting opportunity to elite leftist, and or heavy taxation to make outcomes more equal.
Which don't have a thing to do with opportunity and everything to do with outcome.
The American Dream is not a communist utopia....anyone who told you it was is a big fat liar and you should read up on US history away from whoever taught you that shit.
The American dream has always been to have the opportunity to sink or swim of your own accord as long as you're not posing a threat to the public or others.
Not micro level social and economic engineering by an uber mega powerful centralized government.
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