My "favorite" AI picture and what it says about the state of AI

[intim8]

Takes a minute to see it, because one of these girls is good looking (if shallowly rendered).

[Image removed. Images that are NSFW need to be hotlinked at the very least, not uploaded to Lit servers via attachment. Between that and the AI limitations, this one is over the line. -AH Mod]

This kind of thing, and other examples I've seen in pictures and text, to me point to a crippling epistemological flaw in this latest round of AI technology.

Does anyone have examples of AI written erotic stories they can point me to? I'm pretty fascinated by what these kinds of errors imply about what is going on under the hood.

And lets not turn this into an AI pictures thread. @AH_Mod won't appreciate it, and it isn't my intent.

 

[EmilyMiller]

You have to work with the tech. I often reject like 50-100 images before finding one that is OK, or which can be cropped (e.g. losing AI “hands”) to be OK.

Oh and: https://forum.literotica.com/threads/an-excerpt-from-a-new-emma-lily-story.1606905/

 

[ElectricBlue]

Takes a minute to see it, because one of these girls is good looking (if shallowly rendered).

You needed a whole minute?

I know you Americans like your bootie, but doubling it up is ridiculous.

 

[intim8]

You have to work with the tech. I often reject like 50-100 images before finding one that is OK, or which can be cropped (e.g. losing AI “hands”) to be OK.

I'm not trying to find or create images, I'm just interested in what these specific kinds of flaws (7 fingered hands included) implies.

 

[intim8]

You needed a whole minute?

OK, maybe not a whole minute, but I looked right past it at first as just another meh AI image, then, hey, waitaminnit, wtf was that?

Anyway, I found this example more hilarious than most.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm not trying to find or create images, I'm just interested in what these specific kinds of flaws (7 fingered hands included) implies.

It implies that this type of AI works by statistically analyzing images, not by understanding anatomy.

An example (link to Xitter) is this “photo”‘ which I use to stand for me on the platform. Facially it’s pretty OK. By the bones and musculature around the neck / collar bone are odd.

Xitter “Emily”

Emily

 

[ElectricBlue]

OK, maybe not a whole minute, but I looked right past it at first as just another meh AI image, then, hey, waitaminnit, wtf was that?

I'm convinced that many people who talk up the AI imagery don't see the finger claws, don't see the strange alignment (and misalignment) of body parts, clothes etc. and don't see the weird, disembodied eyes. Nearly every AI image with eyes open is slightly cross-eyed, and the eyes are never ever right.

 

[lustychimera]

Her better half:

 

[intim8]

It implies that this type of AI works by statistically analyzing images, not by understanding anatomy.

The not understanding is broader than that, and isn't limited to LLMs and whatever their image equivalent is called.

I'm familiar, though not fluent, with a lot of the underlying tech. "Statistically analyzing" isn't quite what they're doing.

An example (link to Xitter) is this “photo”‘ which I use to stand for me on the platform. Facially it’s pretty OK. By the bones and musculature around the neck / collar bone are odd.

Xitter “Emily”

Emily

Yeah, that collar bone. Right on the edge of creepy.

 

[intim8]

Her better half:

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That was the first thing I thought of.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Nearly every AI image with eyes open is slightly cross-eyed, and the eyes are never ever right.

Nearly every one generated by free AI is.

There is a quiz you can do in which you are presented with real professional photos and professional AI ones - I’ve never heard of anyone acing it. I did worse than if I’d just guessed each answer.

Emily

 

[EmilyMiller]

The not understanding is broader than that, and isn't limited to LLMs and whatever their image equivalent is called.

I'm familiar, though not fluent, with a lot of the underlying tech. "Statistically analyzing" isn't quite what they're doing.

Was speaking for a generalist audience, not a specialist one.

Yeah, that collar bone. Right on the edge of creepy.

But we don’t notice so much until we look. Our brains are great at filtering out stuff that doesn’t make sense. It’s how optical illusions work.

Emily

 

[intim8]

Nearly every AI image with eyes open is slightly cross-eyed, and the eyes are never ever right.

More the opposite, I think. It's a common flaw in human painting as well, to have the eyes both pointed the same direction. When somebody is focused on something, the sightlines of their eyes converge.

 

[EmilyMiller]

More the opposite, I think. It's a common flaw in human painting as well, to have the eyes both pointed the same direction. When somebody is focused on something, the sightlines of their eyes converge.

It’s also instructive to look at real photos. They often have artifacts, like not quite round eyes etc. This can be lens aberrations, or just the angle, or something done in Light Room / Photo Shop.

Emily

 

[EmilyMiller]

It’s also worth noting that the what we “see” is entirely interpreted by “software.” The image our retinas is upside down and with a hole in it where there are no receptors as the optic nerve bundle occupies the area. It’s our brain that makes sense (or not) of it.

Emily

 

[intim8]

There is a quiz

I just took one. Got about a third wrong. The AI ones looked like they were made by pretty high end AIs, but there were sutble flaws in perspective, backgrounds and things that looked normal but were actually nonsensical in 3d that gave (some of) them away. One didn't look wrong to me at first in any obvious way, but I realized that that could not be there if this other thing was here. Still, I had to analyze it pretty carefully.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I just took one. Got about a third wrong. The AI ones looked like they were made by pretty high end AIs, but there were sutble flaws in perspective, backgrounds and things that looked normal but were actually nonsensical in 3d that gave (some of) them away. One didn't look wrong to me at first in any obvious way, but I realized that that could not be there if this other thing was here. Still, I had to analyze it pretty carefully.

The one I did was timed, so you couldn’t spend for ever looking for a subtle flaw.

UPDATE: it’s now behind a paywall, like I’m gonna pay for that

Emily

 

[Bramblethorn]

Takes a minute to see it, because one of these girls is good looking (if shallowly rendered).
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My god, they've automated Rob Liefeld!

 

[KeithD]

And lets not turn this into an AI pictures thread. @AH_Mod won't appreciate it, and it isn't my intent.

Your photo itself violates site rules on the extent of allowable nudity rendering.

 

[ElectricBlue]

More the opposite, I think. It's a common flaw in human painting as well, to have the eyes both pointed the same direction. When somebody is focused on something, the sightlines of their eyes converge.

The thing with human art (as distinct from photography of humans) is the artist's ability to identify the subject's dominant eye. The very best portrait art does this. If you study Rembrandt's self portraits, for example, you can see that one eye is always focussed, alert, you can see the spirit of the man; whereas the other eye has a vaguer, less precise gaze. It's a manifestation of the left brain right brain cognitive differences.

That whole principle is completely stuffed by Picasso. Les Demoiselles d'Avignon, for example, there's no dominant eye there!

 

[alohadave]

It implies that this type of AI works by statistically analyzing images, not by understanding anatomy.

Plus, hands are really hard. Human artists have a tough time making them look good.

 

[TheRedChamber]

More than anything, those girls really aren't selling an appropriate 'it's effing freezing out here'.

(Yes, I've seen the main butt flaw as well)

 

[EmilyMiller]

I think this AI image - which I prompted - is kinda cool. It can be an interesting complement to other stuff.

Another Xitter link.

Emily

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I'm convinced that many people who talk up the AI imagery don't see the finger claws, don't see the strange alignment (and misalignment) of body parts, clothes etc. and don't see the weird, disembodied eyes. Nearly every AI image with eyes open is slightly cross-eyed, and the eyes are never ever right.

Here's an example of what I believe you are referring to. Her left eye is just a little off from the right one. Not "crossed", but definitely out of alignment

 

[Astrotrain]

I was going to use this as a cover image for my story (are we allowed to use AI for that, by the way) and it's pretty good. The red haired girls eyes are a bit off, but it's pretty good. And annoyingly it seems to have gotten all the rests eyes right. I got this off of a free AI place, any free AI place that might correct it out there?