DeVos held in contempt for forcing people to hand over their money

[someoneyouknow]

Washington (CNN) Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and the Department of Education were held in civil contempt by a federal judge on Thursday and ordered to pay damages to student borrowers who took out loans to attend a now defunct for-profit college.

The judge had previously ordered the Department of Education to stop collecting on the loans. But last month, the department admitted that more than 16,000 borrowers were incorrectly informed that they owed a payment on their debt after the court order. About 1,800 had their wages garnished and more than 800 were mistakenly subject to adverse credit reporting.

US Magistrate Judge Sallie Kim wrote in her order Thursday that "there is no question" that DeVos and the department violated the preliminary injunction and "also no question that defendants' violations harmed individual borrowers."

People who attended the sham Corinthian Colleges, and possibly the con artist's own fake "university", were allowed to apply for student loan relief since the college wasn't a collage at all. The students were to have all their loans forgiven.

However, DeVos has continued to press the former students to pay their debts, even though the college doesn't exist and was fake to begin with. Wages have been garnered from past students in an attempt to collect an illegal debt.

Miraculously, the Education Department says by the end of week (today?) 99% of all peoples affected will have their money returned.

Which raises the question, if it was that easy to give the money back, why wasn't it done in the first place?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/betsy-devos-contempt-order/index.html

 

[KeithD]

Unfortunately, it isn't DeVos who has to pay the fine.

 

[Dumpington]

"Forcing people to hand over their money?

That's the Democratic Party's way of dealing with income inequality!

Liberal/progressives Democrats practice the "politics of envy!"

The left stirs up hatred against those people with money, demanding that they "share it" with the other 99% (who didn't earn it!)

The modern Democratic Party has openly embraced socialism.

THIS is exactly why Trump is going to win re-election in 2020!

Democrats simply don't understand how economics work!

 

[domroger]

"Forcing people to hand over their money?

That's the Democratic Party's way of dealing with income inequality!

Liberal/progressives Democrats practice the "politics of envy!"

The left stirs up hatred against those people with money, demanding that they "share it" with the other 99% (who didn't earn it!)

The modern Democratic Party has openly embraced socialism.

THIS is exactly why Trump is going to win re-election in 2020!

Democrats simply don't understand how economics work!

The GOP's way is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer ,while leeching money off of students with fake universities .

 

[Dumpington]

domroger writes: "The GOP's way is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer ,while leeching money off of students with fake universities"

The GOP has no desire to keep poor people poor - THAT'S how the Democratic Party keeps them voting perpetually for Democrats! If you make poor people permanently dependent on receiving federal government hand-outs, they will vote Democrat for the rest of their lives, living in high-crime drug, rat, & rodent-infested neighborhoods!

The Democratic Party embraces a "politics of envy" strategy, trying to convince the poor that all rich people are evil Republicans, despite the fact that far-left Hollywood, the liberal entertainment community, & the Democratic Party's politicians themselves are ALL fabulously rich!

Republicans, on the other hand, try to get poor people FREE from government dependency, getting jobs, homes, and acquiring wealth of their own, which eventually FREES them from the yoke of perpetual Democratic Party tyranny! The Democrats, of course, respond that this CAN'T be done, and urge the poor to KEEP their victimhood status forever! They HAVE to do this or their party will cease to hold any power!

 

[YDB95]

Republicans, on the other hand, try to get poor people FREE from government dependency, getting jobs, homes, and acquiring wealth of their own, which eventually FREES them from the yoke of perpetual Democratic Party tyranny!

And they do that by...cutting education funding, destroying the safety net, enacting economic policies that favour the rich at everyone else's expense, but which FREE the poor to work for starvation wages with no sick days or benefits. Come on, Dump, even for you...

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "And they do that by...cutting education funding, destroying the safety net, enacting economic policies that favour the rich at everyone else's expense..."

YOU, YDB95, are one of those who believes that if the federal government doesn't pay all of our bills, we are all destined to perish! You think it's the government's job to feed & cloth us, to pay for our health care & our education, and all we need do in return is to vote for Democratic Party candidates!

YOUR mindset is what creates the kind of suffering & inescapable poverty that exists right now in socialist nations like Cuba & Venezuela, where the Democratic Party's GREEN DEAL is already in full effect! You believe that making everybody a VICTIM solves everything!

"...but which FREE the poor to work for starvation wages with no sick days or benefits. Come on, Dump, even for you..."

Nobody in the U.S. is starving, unless they refuse to use their monthly allotment of food stamps. And yes, the Democratic Party's ultimate goal is to keep at least 51% of the voting public dependent on food stamps so that they'll keep voting for them! And if minimum wage laws actually erase poverty, then WHY NOT a minimum wage of $100-an-hour so that everybody can drive around in a luxury car & live in a big house (like Al Gore?)

That's never going to happen because it would, like the rest of the Bernie Sander/AOC agenda, DESTROY our nation's economy! Your Democratic Party doesn't care about record-low unemployment levels because the Dems have NO DESIRE to see America being made great again! The left wants to see EVERYBODY receiving government hand-outs instead! This is why Trump won in 2016, and why he'll win again next year!

 

[domroger]

And they do that by...cutting education funding, destroying the safety net, enacting economic policies that favour the rich at everyone else's expense, but which FREE the poor to work for starvation wages with no sick days or benefits. Come on, Dump, even for you...

Well Trump & co love the poorly educated .

 

[Dumpington]

domroger writes: "Well Trump & co love the poorly educated"

The modern Democratic Party judges people based primarily on the color of their skin - which is pretty-much exactly like the Democratic Party has ALWAYS done!

As far as EDUCATION in concerned, one area where Trump & Co. far surpass the progressive-left is the study of ECONOMICS! Democrats don't understand business, or what creates prosperity! Both Barack Obama & his vice-president Joe Biden have tried (unsuccessfully) to claim some credit for the booming Trump economy, but their credibility sucks! The same former vice president who says that his son, Hunter, was hired by the Ukrainian oil and gas company because of his expertise in energy policy is now claiming that President Trump has “squandered” the strong Obama economy he inherited.

Here is how Mr. Biden put it in a speech last week in Scranton, Pennsylvania: “Donald Trump inherited a strong economy from Barack and me.” Then he added: “Things were beginning to really move. And just like everything else he’s inherited, he’s in the midst of squandering it.” What’s next? Jimmy Carter taking credit for the Reagan boom?

This is the continuing history rewrite of the left to explain the booming economy in the third year of Mr. Trump’s presidency. Today we are at or below record levels of unemployment, inflation and interest rates in half-a-century. Wages and salaries are rising at their fastest clip in at least two decades. There are an all-time high seven-million unfilled jobs in the United States.

The Washington Post is freaking out about the continued good news on the economy — and especially the latest data — that median household income is up by $5,003 since Mr. Trump became president. What is especially rich in the claims by The Washington Post and Joe Biden and others that Mr. Trump’s success is just a continuation of the Obama economy is that this time three years ago these same Trump haters promised that a Trump presidency would cause a “global financial calamity” and even a “second Great Depression.” The stock market would “never” recover from Mr. Trump’s election, Paul Krugman of The New York Times assured us. Now, whoops, with the economy surging, all of a sudden, it is just Mr. Obama’s doing.

The double standard here is so transparent that only someone suffering from TDS — Trump Derangement Syndrome — would miss it.

The continuation of the Obama trend argument is leaky at best. First, Mr. Obama gave us the weakest recovery from a recession since the end of World War II. The economy grew by about 14 percent in the Obama recovery over seven years. In the normal recovery, the economy grew by almost twice that amount, or 27 percent. In the last Obama year, the economy slowed down to a piddly 1.6 percent growth and economists warned that a “recessions is right around the corner.”

Yes, Mr. Biden is right that at the end of the Obama-Biden presidency, “things were really starting to move” — in the wrong direction. This is why Mr. Trump won the election. Nearly every poll in 2016 showed that jobs and the economy were the biggest worries of the American voters — especially in the Midwestern states that Mr. Trump flipped from blue to red.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And they do that by...cutting education funding, destroying the safety net, enacting economic policies that favour the rich at everyone else's expense, but which FREE the poor to work for starvation wages with no sick days or benefits. Come on, Dump, even for you...

And there is the big lie of the left.

Economic freedom favors everyone...not just the rich.

 

[domroger]

domroger writes: "Well Trump & co love the poorly educated"

The modern Democratic Party judges people based primarily on the color of their skin - which is pretty-much exactly like the Democratic Party has ALWAYS done!.

Deflection noted .

 

[KeithD]

Deflection noted .

False deflection, as well.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Deflection noted .

But it's true.

False deflection, as well.

Tell us more about "white privilege"

 

[YDB95]

Economic freedom favors everyone...not just the rich.

Saying it doesn't make it so. Look at the reality of where we're at today.
By the way, do corporate welfare, farm subsidies, etc. count as "economic freedom"? Or is it as Martin Luther King said: we have socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Saying it doesn't make it so. Look at the reality of where we're at today.

No the observable reality makes it so.

The Korean peninsula is a prime example.

There is a strong correlation with economic freedom and prosperity.

Same the other direction, the more fascistic/socialistic an economy? The more extreme the poverty....every time.

Authoritarianism is bad for business.

By the way, do corporate welfare, farm subsidies, etc. count as "economic freedom"?

No. Never said it was never said I supported it.

Or is it as Martin Luther King said: we have socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor?

He apparently didn't know what the fuck socialism was.

What's that got to do with anything???

Nothing....reality is economic freedom benefits everyone, not just the rich.

 

[YDB95]

Economic freedom yes, absolute laissez-faire capitalism no.

 

[Dumpington]

BotanyBoy writes: "There is a strong correlation with economic freedom and prosperity."

The left in America today doesn't WANT economic freedom or prosperity! They didn't WANT a president promising to "make America great again," as such a promise would reverse President Obama's eight-year effort to manage America's decline! Barack was our nation's "food stamps president," increasing the number of American citizens dependent on federal government hand-outs, in the hopes that they would continue to vote Democrat for the remainder of their lives.

"...economic freedom benefits everyone, not just the rich."

YDB95 responds: "Economic freedom yes, absolute laissez-faire capitalism no."

Laissez-faire capitalism is what created the greatest & most prosperous nation on our planet. The modern Democratic Party is more interested in turning America into another Venezuela and/or Cuba. That party's 2020 presidential candidates ALL support a socialist economic agenda that promises to raise taxes and destroy economic growth. The Dems point to the vast slum wastelands of Detroit, rat-&-rodent-infested west Baltimore, the murder-capital of the world (Chicago), and the human-excrement-dotted sidewalks of San Francisco, as their vision of what the United States could become with less capitalism!

 

[YDB95]

Laissez-faire capitalism is what created the greatest & most prosperous nation on our planet.

Not even close. Take a history class sometime.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Not even close. Take a history class sometime."

Capitalist economics built the United States. You KNOW this!

What Bernie Sanders is proposing would DESTROY the United States as an economic world power! You know THIS, as well!

And Liz Warren & Joe Biden support most of the same neo-socialist bullsh*t being pushed by Bernie & the House freshmen!

Socialist economics have destroyed economic growth everywhere they've ever been implemented. Take an economics class sometime!

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "Not even close. Take a history class sometime."

Capitalist economics built the United States. You KNOW this!

First of all, while what you say here isn't exactly wrong, there's a tremendous difference between what you probably believe and what really happened.

Secondly, it really isn't as simple as you suggest. Throughout most of the nineteenth century, there was a lot more community cooperation and pooling of resources than we see today. Most homesteaders also literally got their land for free from the government. The kind of absolute laissez-faire policies you appear to support only arose after the Civil War, and they resulted in the worst gap between rich and poor in history...until today.

Third, there really isn't anything "capitalist" about corporate welfare, farm subsidies, etc. that big business and big agriculture enjoy today.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Economic freedom yes, absolute laissez-faire capitalism no.

Nobody said anything about absolute Laissez-faire capitalism, nice goal post move!!!

Not even close. Take a history class sometime.

Can you name another more powerful economy than the USA???

First of all, while what you say here isn't exactly wrong, there's a tremendous difference between what you probably believe and what really happened.

Not really.

Secondly, it really isn't as simple as you suggest. Throughout most of the nineteenth century, there was a lot more community cooperation and pooling of resources than we see today. Most homesteaders also literally got their land for free from the government. The kind of absolute laissez-faire policies you appear to support only arose after the Civil War, and they resulted in the worst gap between rich and poor in history...until today.

Community cooperation and pooling of resources that was voluntary and at the community level. Nothing anti-capitalist about that.

Most homesteaders got that land because they were willing to take it, the government just set up the legal paperwork they needed to show "ownership" in the 1st world sense of the term.

And so what? Inequity of outcome has nothing to do with it....you're obsessed as if equity of outcome for all is the goal, it's not, it's totally irrelevant. We're talking about the USA not Soviet Russia.

Third, there really isn't anything "capitalist" about corporate welfare, farm subsidies, etc. that big business and big agriculture enjoy today.

No there isn't....that was all done to help the poor people and should be shit canned immediately.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Throughout most of the nineteenth century, there was a lot more community cooperation and pooling of resources than we see today. Most homesteaders also literally got their land for free from the government."

That's true, but America's homesteaders were NOT socialists. They busted their tails to get ahead, and many of those who failed either died or moved away. The history of America is filled with people who worked their butts off to get ahead without ever asking the federal government for a dime!

"The kind of absolute laissez-faire policies you appear to support only arose after the Civil War, and they resulted in the worst gap between rich and poor in history...until today."

Yes, men like Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, J.D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Henry Ford, etc. were ALL unbridled capitalists who built fabulously wealthy empires exceeding anything ever before achieved abroad. They also built & established American railroads, energy conglomerates, businesses & wealth that attracted people to this country from all over the planet! And there are STILL countless charities, schools, & foundations today sporting the names of these great men!

BotanyBoy asks: "Can you name another more powerful economy than the USA???"

No, he can't! And not ONLY are we the wealthiest & most powerful nation in the world - but we're ALSO the most free, thanks to our U.S. Constitution! And the modern Democratic Party isn't at all happy about that! Modern progressives dislike the 1st & 2nd-amendments, and they HATE the electoral college!

 

[dan_c00000]

Can you name another more powerful economy than the USA???

I can name plenty of countries with a smaller GDP than the U.S. that have less income inequality, less poverty, and a happier population.

Surely racist bot you of all people know that size isn't everything.