Degrading or hot?

Raw and rough can be enjoyable in the right context. But what I don't like about the stereotypical porn portrayal is what appears to be a genuine sense of disdain and disrespect on the part of the man. Anyone who ever treated me that way would learn very quickly that the mouth they are stuffing their dick into has a full set of teeth and direct access to a pair of very sensitive gonads.

The fine line with that dynamic is that it must be consensual, yet involve enough legitimate domination/aggression to have the desired effect. That requires a great deal of trust and respect. That can't exist with some sneering douchebag that genuinely does not respect women in general or the woman he is with.

My orientation is strongly in the direction of me being the dominant partner. While many people not experienced in D's play might misperceive things the bottomline is that I care very much how my Sub experiences our interactions. To others it may appear abusive or humiliating, but it is incumbent upon me to ensure that he/she is truly enjoying the experience. That may involve pushing limits. But it never involves genuine disrespect or disdain for my Sub.
 
A lot of porno blowjob scenes show a woman sucking a man’s dick, and he takes his hand on her head and forces her to choke on his cock. Literally he forces his dick down her throat and she makes choking sounds. I find that degrading and I won’t watch those scenes. It seems to be happening more and more in the last year or two. Do women like having that done to them?

Also I love cumshots, but on a lot of cumshots the guy cums on the girl’s face, and she tries to avoid it. It’s one thing if the girl likes it, but on so many facial scenes the girl is just wishing it to be over when the guy is splooging in her eye and up her nose. It’s not hot for me, but some people like that, I guess. Facials are only hot when the woman likes them IMO.

Lastly, sometimes you will see guys with huge cocks penetrating women who don’t seem to like it. They’re whining, not moaning. Their faces are pained, not happy. It looks painful and uncomfortable for these girls. They have their hand on the guy, trying to keep him away. Is that hot? The best big cock scenes are the ones where the woman is obviously into it, and can accommodate his huge tool.

Maybe all this stuff just makes me uber vanilla. Is it too weird to think that women should like whatever guys are doing to them?
I've never minded a man holding my head as he buried his cock down my throat but like you mentioned it's not something that hurts me and I find it kind of exciting to be driving him that wild. With the other things you mentioned yeah if one of the people is not into and being forced truly then it sucks that is happening or they are being hurt.
 
A lot of the early part of a sexual relationship is finding out where the boundaries are, what is considered fun, and what gets your partner off. I had one girlfriend who thought blowjobs were gross, but she was all over being tied to the bed and fucked with a large cucumber. The wife is not keen on oral (I'm too big 🙄) but loved rear entry - doggy, spoons, etc. - until her health went downhill and sex became a happy memory. I love going down on women until she orgasms, and then getting my rocks off with a good hard round of missionary position, or with her legs over my shoulders.
 
A lot of porno blowjob scenes show a woman sucking a man’s dick, and he takes his hand on her head and forces her to choke on his cock. Literally he forces his dick down her throat and she makes choking sounds. I find that degrading and I won’t watch those scenes. It seems to be happening more and more in the last year or two. Do women like having that done to them?

Also I love cumshots, but on a lot of cumshots the guy cums on the girl’s face, and she tries to avoid it. It’s one thing if the girl likes it, but on so many facial scenes the girl is just wishing it to be over when the guy is splooging in her eye and up her nose. It’s not hot for me, but some people like that, I guess. Facials are only hot when the woman likes them IMO.

Lastly, sometimes you will see guys with huge cocks penetrating women who don’t seem to like it. They’re whining, not moaning. Their faces are pained, not happy. It looks painful and uncomfortable for these girls. They have their hand on the guy, trying to keep him away. Is that hot? The best big cock scenes are the ones where the woman is obviously into it, and can accommodate his huge tool.

Maybe all this stuff just makes me uber vanilla. Is it too weird to think that women should like whatever guys are doing to them?
Oh, grow a pair, Sweety. I love it when I am made to lie on a bed on my back, with my head hanging over its side, awaiting a deep penetration of my throat. It makes me tingle all over and my little pooter clitoris twitches as I am pumped with the lovely bit of man-meat I am serving. When I taste the semen I know I've been well used. It is the greatest thing since jellies eels.
 
A lot of porno blowjob scenes show a woman sucking a man’s dick, and he takes his hand on her head and forces her to choke on his cock. Literally he forces his dick down her throat and she makes choking sounds. I find that degrading and I won’t watch those scenes. It seems to be happening more and more in the last year or two. Do women like having that done to them?

Also I love cumshots, but on a lot of cumshots the guy cums on the girl’s face, and she tries to avoid it. It’s one thing if the girl likes it, but on so many facial scenes the girl is just wishing it to be over when the guy is splooging in her eye and up her nose. It’s not hot for me, but some people like that, I guess. Facials are only hot when the woman likes them IMO.

Lastly, sometimes you will see guys with huge cocks penetrating women who don’t seem to like it. They’re whining, not moaning. Their faces are pained, not happy. It looks painful and uncomfortable for these girls. They have their hand on the guy, trying to keep him away. Is that hot? The best big cock scenes are the ones where the woman is obviously into it, and can accommodate his huge tool.

Maybe all this stuff just makes me uber vanilla. Is it too weird to think that women should like whatever guys are doing to them?
You have to remember, they are being paid for doing it, or at worst forced into it, mostly they hate it, the guy, the place, the whole thing. It’s total fantasy. Those that seem to like it are mostly just good actors and get more work as a result.
Also I notice that there is getting more extreme stuff like scat and physical abuse, I hate that even more than bad actors.
 
You have to remember, they are being paid for doing it, or at worst forced into it, mostly they hate it, the guy, the place, the whole thing. It’s total fantasy.
I always used to think that and would never have dreamed of doing anything other than let the lady do her thing in the way most comfortable for her.

Fast forward to now, my current partner can deep throat like a pornstar and likes having her head forced down on my (or someone else's) cock forcibly and held there.

There are limits of course and we've learned what is hot for her and what isn't, but women who enjoy it do exist.
 
There are limits of course and we've learned what is hot for her and what isn't, but women who enjoy it do exist.
Okay... ..But given the fact that most woman would consider that sexual assault, I will not be a consumer of such porn. If I enjoy watching women being forced to do something against their will, it's time for some soul searching and to maybe give up porn.

To me, it boils down to whether or not I could defend looking at something to my wife and to my adult kids. It's not a frequent topic of discussion, mind you, but I'm prepared to defend what I look at if ever asked about it.

If a scene being portrayed is one of non-consent, or one where it's implausible a woman would enjoy the activity, I'm not watching it. That still leaves a TON of porn that I can watch in good conscience.
 
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Depends.

If im dating a guy and i go down on him, im less likely to expect him to start throat fucking me.

But if im his Sub/slave/pet then yes im expecting it. when i am i enjoy it. they enjoy the sounds it makes.

Facials. my fav. makes me feel slutty, sexy and for him its normally a girl who has a pretty face.
They enjoy seeing my face with their cum on it. I enjoy how it makes me feel and how pleased it makes them.
 
Depends.

If im dating a guy and i go down on him, im less likely to expect him to start throat fucking me.

But if im his Sub/slave/pet then yes im expecting it. when i am i enjoy it. they enjoy the sounds it makes.

Facials. my fav. makes me feel slutty, sexy and for him its normally a girl who has a pretty face.
They enjoy seeing my face with their cum on it. I enjoy how it makes me feel and how pleased it makes them.
Context and consent are paramount.
 
Guys spitting on their dicks for lube. F'ing gross!

Don't they focus group this stuff? ;)
 
I want a woman who WANTS as much cock as she can get down her throat…. But, not when they’re abused by a guy forcing himself on her… or in her. I do love to see a woman trying her best to deepthroat, and if she voluntarily gags, then she has the option to take a breath, or keep trying, but it’s up to her, not me. I feel pretty lucky if a woman wants to suck me at all, so I want them to take what they want. Same with facials… my favorite is when I tell a Girl I’m about to cum as she sucks me, and she takes me out and jerks me off on her face…. Then I know that’s what she wants.
 
A lot of porno blowjob scenes show a woman sucking a man’s dick, and he takes his hand on her head and forces her to choke on his cock. Literally he forces his dick down her throat and she makes choking sounds. I find that degrading and I won’t watch those scenes. It seems to be happening more and more in the last year or two. Do women like having that done to them?

Also I love cumshots, but on a lot of cumshots the guy cums on the girl’s face, and she tries to avoid it. It’s one thing if the girl likes it, but on so many facial scenes the girl is just wishing it to be over when the guy is splooging in her eye and up her nose. It’s not hot for me, but some people like that, I guess. Facials are only hot when the woman likes them IMO.

Lastly, sometimes you will see guys with huge cocks penetrating women who don’t seem to like it. They’re whining, not moaning. Their faces are pained, not happy. It looks painful and uncomfortable for these girls. They have their hand on the guy, trying to keep him away. Is that hot? The best big cock scenes are the ones where the woman is obviously into it, and can accommodate his huge tool.

Maybe all this stuff just makes me uber vanilla. Is it too weird to think that women should like whatever guys are doing to them?
That’s correct, the more I watch porno blow jobs the more I see girls that are coerced, I look for more amateur vids these days. I love blow job and swallow porn, it’s my fetish.
 
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