4th Republican presidential candidates debate tonight 11/10/15

[Sean Renaud]

That's because socials democracy is still socialism and thus evil. But yeah the Left has no interest in championing socialism because they are still American.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No they don't...they want a warm fuzzy, and that's why Sanders isn't CRUSHING HRC.

I see. Your ignorance is not only astonishing but willful.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I see. Your ignorance is not only astonishing but willful.

Then show me social democracy that's not getting stuffed in America.....


Point out the socialist democrat leadership Americans have put into office....

Cuz it ain't fuckin' Obama.

 

[phrodeau]

Then show me social democracy that's not getting stuffed in America.....


Point out the socialist democrat leadership Americans have put into office....

Cuz it ain't fuckin' Obama.

Bernie Sanders has been winning elections pretty consistently, and Americans did that. How is he not a leader?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Do you expect him to get past Hillary? And Bernie is a Senator not a Governor so he really doesn't have much in the way of real power at this juncture.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Bernie Sanders has been winning elections pretty consistently, and Americans did that. How is he not a leader?

Ok we got one.....there is one other city council lady in Seattle I think

aaaaaaand

Reality check is they are a fringe group. America prefers a corporate Oligarchy, that's why democrats are going to run and vote for Wall St's royal heiress....Clinton and not Sanders.

Do you expect him to get past Hillary?

And there is the bottom line.

 

[mark_j]

Ok we got one.....there is one other city council lady in Seattle I think.

Kshama Sawant... She's the only one who professes open Socialism. Though in reality the entire city council are closet Socialists. Seattle politics are a strange beast..

 

[BotanyBoy]

Kshama Sawant... She's the only one who professes open Socialism. Though in reality the entire city council are closet Socialists. Seattle politics are a strange beast..

Well if you want to go that far so is most of the GOP and the entire Tea Party.

Every time they fuck with business and economic transactions.... socialism.

War on drugs? Prostitution? Anti abortionist? All their various taxing and spending?

SOCIALIST TYRANNY.

Socialism isn't just what Democrats do, Republicans fucking LOVE it too.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Bernie Sanders has been winning elections pretty consistently, and Americans did that. How is he not a leader?

And Elizabeth Warren is a Senator too.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And Elizabeth Warren is a Senator too.

Clearly socialist democracy is sweeping America.

Just 50 more senators and a hundred something reps before you're taken seriously.

LOL

 

[NOIRTRASH]

2016 is gonna be bad for Democrats. She's a mix of Hubert Humphrey and McGovern. The niggers and queers and students are in the streets, like in 1968, and Americans are tired of it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

2016 is gonna be bad for Democrats. She's a mix of Hubert Humphrey and McGovern. The niggers and queers and students are in the streets, like in 1968, and Americans are tired of it.

God I hope not, a fully GOP government would be fucking horrible. Landmark achievement in economic oppression.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Clearly socialist democracy is sweeping America.

Just 50 more senators and a hundred something reps before you're taken seriously.

LOL

It's not as bad as that. If you had a consistent 7-15 Senators and the Reps that pretty much come defacto with that you'd be a serious political entity.

God I hope not, a fully GOP government would be fucking horrible. Landmark achievement in economic oppression.

Aw, I thought you wanted to see how on fire the house could get?

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not as bad as that. If you had a consistent 7-15 Senators and the Reps that pretty much come defacto with that you'd be a serious political entity.

Nah, I think that drastic of a pull will have the moderate democrats, especially the business owning ones not making a billion an hr, freaking shit. It would devolve into interparty pissing matches and hey would just sink the democrats the way the tea party is fucking over the pubs at least until they figured out they had all better agree a page to all get on before the GOP destroys the place.

Aw, I thought you wanted to see how on fire the house could get?

That's not setting the house on fire, that's sealing it up in flame retardant so when the villagers show up with their torches they can just laugh them off with storm trooper popo.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't know ho much of a pissing contest it would REALLY start since I find that Dems lean a little left of what you're giving them credit for. They are just pussies and if they had some big swinging cock motherfuckers to take the fire a lot of them would fall in line. HOWEVER the Tea Party like or not is a serious political entity. Maybe they don't really acomplish much when people say "nobody thinks X" well that's not a tiny faction of nobody. Sanders and Warren are a tiny faction of nobody.

Why didn't the rich ever thing of flame retardant housing before!

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't know ho much of a pissing contest it would REALLY start since I find that Dems lean a little left of what you're giving them credit for. They are just pussies and if they had some big swinging cock motherfuckers to take the fire a lot of them would fall in line. HOWEVER the Tea Party like or not is a serious political entity. Maybe they don't really acomplish much when people say "nobody thinks X" well that's not a tiny faction of nobody. Sanders and Warren are a tiny faction of nobody.

Why didn't the rich ever thing of flame retardant housing before!

Maybe...I don't think it would be very unified though.

If they aren't accomplishing much...and by much I'm assuming you mean embarrassing republicans even remotely close to quasi sane and sending the far left into epileptic fits. Because that's really all they do.

New political tech.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They may or may not be. Dems are really like herding cats. I just think they seem to in general like enough of the same things that if someone was the dude who'd go "yep, I'm a socialist and proud. SAY SOMETHING!" That the rest of them would run over and get their cookies real quick.

I'm no longer certain what their goal is. They claim that they want to grind everything to a halt. If so job well done. Assuming that's a lie then yes they are not accomplishing much, they are just an actual indentifable group of people instead of a myth.

New technology reached! Clever girl.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

God I hope not, a fully GOP government would be fucking horrible. Landmark achievement in economic oppression.

The GOP elites are shitting their pants because they got no one to oppose Trump and Carson. But the GOP elites will support Hillary rather than risk their asses with Trump or Carson. Democrat Ron Silver usta say a Bush was a better Democrat than most Democrats. I've always believed it. By New Years the GOP race is over. Its Trump & Carson or Cruz and Carson. Carson will fuck Hillary with blacks.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm no longer certain what their goal is. They claim that they want to grind everything to a halt.

Errrm . . . you're talking about the Pubs now, right?

 

[JackLuis]

Ted Cruz’s ‘crazy’ tax plan would cost US at least $16 trillion: analysts​

Firebrand senator Ted Cruz’s tax plans are “crazy” and would cost the US at least $16.2tn, according to an analysis by thinktank Citizens for Tax Justice (CTJ).

The Republican presidential candidate who has made a name for himself attacking government spending set out specific tax plans earlier this week that he claimed would cost $1tn.

He also announced plans to shut down the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and replace the taxman with a 10% flat-rate income tax, that he said would reduce personal income taxes by 60%.

Such a plan would cost $12.8tn over a decade, according to CTJ . Cruz would also eliminate corporate income tax, at a 10-year cost of $4.7tn, and repeal the estate tax, at a cost of $300bn, the left-leaning thinktank calculates.

Cruz’s other major proposal is to repeal payroll taxes for social security and Medicare (at a cost of $13.1tn) and replace those taxes with a value-added tax, or national sales tax, that would raise $14.7tn.

All in all, CTJ calculates the Cruz plan would reduce total federal revenues by about 37%.

No more Aircraft Carriers or F-35s?

CTJ has run similar analyses of plans by other Republican candidates including frontrunner Donald Trump, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush. With those analyses CTJ calculated a distributional analysis, working out which income groups would receive the most benefits from the cuts. Rubio’s plan , for example, would give the top 1% a tax cut of $220,00 a year, according to CTJ. McIntyre did not do a distributional analysis for Cruz’s plan because “it’s too crazy”.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Carson will fuck Hillary with blacks.

Somehow I doubt he has much capacity to excite most AA voters. He's just Alan Keyes with an M.D.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They may or may not be. Dems are really like herding cats. I just think they seem to in general like enough of the same things that if someone was the dude who'd go "yep, I'm a socialist and proud. SAY SOMETHING!" That the rest of them would run over and get their cookies real quick.

I'm no longer certain what their goal is. They claim that they want to grind everything to a halt. If so job well done. Assuming that's a lie then yes they are not accomplishing much, they are just an actual indentifable group of people instead of a myth.

New technology reached! Clever girl.

Eh...you're an optimist! and there's nothing wrong with that.

And true, the tea party is serious in that there are a legit group of folks out there claiming as much and standing by it.

Well now I've gotta start another civ game...thanks for blowing all productivity I had planned for the next 3 days.

The GOP elites are shitting their pants because they got no one to oppose Trump and Carson. But the GOP elites will support Hillary rather than risk their asses with Trump or Carson. Democrat Ron Silver usta say a Bush was a better Democrat than most Democrats. I've always believed it. By New Years the GOP race is over. Its Trump & Carson or Cruz and Carson. Carson will fuck Hillary with blacks.

Because they don't want to cut a new guy in and Carson is a religious nut.

And I don't think Carson will fuck HRC with the black vote. He might pull some of the older more religious ones over but (D) isn't losing the black community to (R) any time soon.

No more Aircraft Carriers or F-35s?

Oh no that socialism is ok.....

 

[dan_c00000]

Which is odd since aside from being a Nazi (sorry, Jews are good, Blacks are bad. . .) Trouve is about as left wing as it gets.

Racial intolerance isn't exactly a liberal principle. Trouve is a racist piece of shit and he's clueless about how the government actually works.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sorry I made you play Civ. No wait I'm not cus I'm gonna be stuck in a game tomorrow and my friend Crim takes FOREVER on his turns.

Racial intolerance isn't exactly a liberal principle. Trouve is a racist piece of shit and he's clueless about how the government actually works.

But everybody gets a by or two for shit that they just don't vibe with the team on and that's his.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sorry I made you play Civ. No wait I'm not cus I'm gonna be stuck in a game tomorrow and my friend Crim takes FOREVER on his turns.



But everybody gets a by or two for shit that they just don't vibe with the team on and that's his.

We had a 4 person game on epic pace, took us like 4 months to finish the damn thing and we played like nearly every weekend and some weeknights on top of it.

I'm rolling ghandi right now, trying to do the single city challenge, gonna go for a diplomatic run.