Abort or die?

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/world/americas/dominican-republic-abortion-teen/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

In the Dominican Republic "the right to life is inviolable from the moment of conception and until death."

Because life is defined as beginning at conception, they have a strict ban on all abortions. Apparently you cant even have a treatment that may save your life, if it would cause the body to miscarriage.

RobDownSouth · Jul 25, 2012

How're men supposed to control their women iffn you give women control over their own bodies?

Wings · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/world/americas/dominican-republic-abortion-teen/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

In the Dominican Republic "the right to life is inviolable from the moment of conception and until death."

Because life is defined as beginning at conception, they have a strict ban on all abortions. Apparently you cant even have a treatment that may save your life, if it would cause the body to miscarriage.

And yet most of the right wingers on here seem to want this same thing for America.

Recidiva · Jul 25, 2012

Women would be easier to manage as ovens if they didn't insist on having brains.

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

They dont have the death penalty, but they DO allow IVF.

eyer · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/world/americas/dominican-republic-abortion-teen/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

In the Dominican Republic "the right to life is inviolable from the moment of conception and until death."

Because life is defined as beginning at conception, they have a strict ban on all abortions. Apparently you cant even have a treatment that may save your life, if it would cause the body to miscarriage.

Why did you use "Apparently"?

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

eyer said:
Why did you use "Apparently"?

I like the way it rolls off the tongue.

Wings · Jul 25, 2012

eyer said:
Why did you use "Apparently"?

It had the right affect.

oggbashan · Jul 25, 2012

The UK gets health tourists who come to the UK for abortions - which they pay for themselves. Our laws on abortion are stricter than the US but if a woman really wants an abortion she is unlikely to be refused.

We possibly get some 'tourists' from the Dominican Republic. We used to get hundreds from Ireland.

eyer · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
I like the way it rolls off the tongue.

I'm sure you do...

blobfish · Jul 25, 2012

Very few American conservatives want this.

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
Very few American conservatives want this.

I agree.

I also think the typical pro-lifer doesnt really want define life at conception, they simply want to prevent women from choosing to not have a child.

eyer · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
Abort or die?

Of course, at Planned Parenthood a woman can abort and die...

Chicago Woman's Family Lawyers Up After Abortion-Related Death

http://abcnews.go.com/US/chicago-wo...-related-death/story?id=16845276#.UBAJ-mFSSf4

Now...

...tell us again why those who champion abortion providers to be fully certified medical facilities are apparently women haters, too.

BotanyBoy · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
Very few American conservatives want this.

HAHAHAH yea right bro....libertarians don't...the bat shit crazy tea bag twats/evangelical conservatives do. Those fuck nuggets are just as big of social tyrants as the loony libs are economic tyrants.

blobfish · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
I agree.

I also think the typical pro-lifer doesnt really want define life at conception, they simply want to prevent women from choosing to not have a child.

Some do. Personally, I define life at viability.

Recidiva · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
Some do. Personally, I define life at viability.

Yup, for me it's a medical issue with the mother taking precedence as she's the only one with the rights and the responsibility and the risks.

Viability is rarely before 25 weeks, hardly ever before 23.

Recidiva · Jul 25, 2012

BotanyBoy said:
HAHAHAH yea right bro....libertarians don't...the bat shit crazy tea bag twats/evangelical conservatives do. Those fuck nuggets are just as big of social tyrants as the loony libs are economic tyrants.

...I just like the words "fuck nuggets" and thought I'd say so.

blobfish · Jul 25, 2012

BotanyBoy said:
HAHAHAH yea right bro....libertarians don't...the bat shit crazy tea bag twats/evangelical conservatives do. Those fuck nuggets are just as big of social tyrants as the loony libs are economic tyrants.

As much as I dislike the connies, most make an exception if the mother is at risk.

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

eyer said:
Of course, at Planned Parenthood a woman can abort and die...

Now...

...tell us again why those who champion abortion providers to be fully certified medical facilities are apparently women haters, too.

A terrible tragedy.

What are the stats? How often do women die from abortions provided by Planned Parenthood?

blobfish · Jul 25, 2012

Recidiva said:
Yup, for me it's a medical issue with the mother taking precedence as she's the only one with the rights and the responsibility and the risks.

Viability is rarely before 25 weeks, hardly ever before 23.

On a personal level, I wish that all abortions would end today, except for medical reasons.

Wings · Jul 25, 2012

TexasWife25 said:
A terrible tragedy.

What are the stats? How often do women die from abortions provided by Planned Parenthood?

And do they match deaths from child birth or complications after giving birth?

Recidiva · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
On a personal level, I wish that all abortions would end today, except for medical reasons.

I've had two kids. The transformations that happen to a woman's body chemically and physically are profound enough that I wouldn't compel anybody to do it.

On a personal level, it's not up to me, but based on my experience and medical understanding, it also shouldn't be up to anybody but the mother.

blobfish · Jul 25, 2012

Recidiva said:
I've had two kids. The transformations that happen to a woman's body chemically and physically are profound enough that I wouldn't compel anybody to do it.

On a personal level, it's not up to me, but based on my experience and medical understanding, it also shouldn't be up to anybody but the mother.

The thing is that the baby doesn't just appear in her body. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, there are ways to prevent it.

Recidiva · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
The thing is that the baby doesn't just appear in her body. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, there are ways to prevent it.

I'm sorry but medically I don't understand "doesn't just appear in her body." It worked that way for me.

Yes, and I'm all for education. However, it's too late once it's done.

TexasWife25 · Jul 25, 2012

blobfish said:
The thing is that the baby doesn't just appear in her body. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, there are ways to prevent it.

I believe I heard another user state this argument. That the women should be punished for not being more careful by forcing her to give birth to a child she doesnt want.

Abort or die?

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