Cancer is a fungus

I was looking at the Top viewed Google videos this month and came across this. I mentioned it in Lance's thread, but figured it deserved it's own thread.

"Cancer is a fungus":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2137356552230941410

Is this guy a quack? It does seem true that the similarities are astounding.

Now look at this...

Dr. William B. Coley developed a revolutionary cancer treatment in the late 1800's which involved giving his patients a high FEVER which "killed" the cancer.

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=871


Similarity?

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...us+heat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us&client=opera

" Most of the research on temperature relationships for the fungi has been done in the food industry where heat is commonly used to prevent fungal growth. Much of this research involves wet heat, which is more effective than dry heat"

More!

"The technique relies on an almost universal property of even very small cancerous growths - they tend to be more acidic than surrounding tissue, that is their pH level is lower than healthy tissue. The body tries to re-balance the pH to normal by using its own natural source of bicarbonate of soda."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/109203.php




The "cancer fungus" doctor uses BAKING SODA to kill the tumors!

Odd_ball said:

I was looking at the Top viewed Google videos this month and came across this. I mentioned it in Lance's thread, but figured it deserved it's own thread.

"Cancer is a fungus":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2137356552230941410

Is this guy a quack? It does seem true that the similarities are astounding.

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Thank you for bumping this and raising awareness of the issue.

This is actually interesting.

Another similarity:

When normal cells are put in oxygen depleted enviroments, they become cancerous. Fungus is anaerobic.

"Recently a remarkable discovery was made by scientists: fungus are anaerobic organisms. This means they can only survive in low oxygen environments and, if oxygen levels significantly increase, the fungus die."

In fact, oxygen is toxic to it.

So, the implication is that fungal spores exist in almost every cell, and by depleting oxygen levels you are not making the cell become "cancerous", but are simply allowing the fungal spores to grow out of control.

I will bump it some more. This is a serious issue. If it is indeed a fungus, maybe we are all looking in the wrong direction for the cure.

Keep us posted.

In fact, it is actually a neccessity as part of the carbon cycle of life for fungus to exist in every living thing.

When alive, normal defense mechanisms keep the fungus at bay.

Upon death, the fungi naturally take over and begin decomposition.

Earth itself is literally trying to absorb every living thing.

The media non-reporting of this is a literal crime against humanity committed by the establishment!


"Some doctors implicate fungi as a cause of leukemia. In 1999 Meinolf Karthaus, MD, watched three different children with leukemia suddenly go into remission upon receiving a triple antifungal drug cocktail for their "secondary" fungal infections.

In 1997 Mark Bielski stated that leukemia, whether acute or chronic, is intimately associated with the yeast, Candida albicans, which mutates into a fungal form when it overgrows.

Milton White, MD. believed that cancer is a chronic, infectious, fungus disease. He was able to find fungal spores in every sample of cancer tissue he studied. Some other doctors agree with him. Such as the Italian doctor who has his patients take a teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda, baking soda, in a glass of water half an hour before breakfast. This alkalinized the digestive tract so that it would help eliminate candida.

Author Doug Kaufmann asserts that fungi in foods may play a role in cancer. He has seen children become free of their documented leukemia once the child's parents simply changed the child's diet. Kaufmann's diet is based on the widely published problem of mycotoxin contamination of our grain foods."


Motherfuckers...

Even more!!!


Antibiotic Used To Treat Fungal Infections Also Kills Cancer Cells, Research Suggests

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070706132500.htm

Look up the word "Fungating"!

You fundamentally have no understanding of what cancer is.

atmas said:

You fundamentally have no understanding of what cancer is.

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You fundamentally fail to argue why the doctors in question are wrong.

Everyone knows the classic definition which is abnormal cell growth, otherwise known as metastasis.

The doctors challenge the accepted view that cancer is simply normal human cells gone "mad" with their refusal to undergo normal apoptosis and instead regenerate or multiply like , well, fungus.

I suppose the oncologists mentioned also have no "fundamental understanding"?

You are sounding like a fundamentalist , Atmas. Clinging to old, obsolete theories. Note I stated theories, not facts.

Odd_ball said:

You fundamentally fail to argue why the doctors in question are wrong.

Everyone knows the classic definition which is abnormal cell growth, otherwise known as metastasis.

The doctors challenge the accepted view that cancer is simply normal human cells gone "mad" with their refusal to undergo normal apoptosis and instead regenerate or multiply like , well, fungus.

I suppose the oncologists mentioned also have no "fundamental understanding"?

You are sound like a fundamentalist , Atmas. Clinging to old, obsolete theories. Note I stated theories, not facts.

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You have a vague understanding of apoptosis, but you are misusing the word metastasis.
And if all cancer produced undifferentiated cells your cliff notes version of what it is might be vaguely within the county of acceptable, but not all cancer cells are undifferentiated.
Fact: no research study has adequately produced a genomic segment that, when upregulated, acted in accordance with what the generally accepted view of what an oncogene is.
Fact: certain breast cancer cells (the focus of my professional research) are in fact differentiated cells but contain an anomaly that affects the tertiary structure of the amino acids. This unfolded protein response (or UPR) is a part of the cellular Integrated Stress Response. What has been observed is that whatever anomaly gives rise to this folding problem in the tertiary structure has a tendency on occasion not to activate the refolding process or to eventually accelerate apoptosis. Thus a differentiated cell becomes cancerous.
My research is limited to breast cancer cells, but similar differentiated but cancerous cells arise in every organ in the body, in literally hundreds of ways.
So, no, I'm not a fundamentalist.
I am a professional oncological fucking researcher.

I find your facts intriguing. The fact that no genetic sequence has ever been upregulated or stimulated to produce cancer is interesting. Which means that there is little evidence that cancer is even genetic? Or did I read that completely wrong? An oncogene being a cancer-causing gene. Then again, do we really know that oncogenes always produce unstoppable cell division and cancer because of DNA damage?

Also explain all the various similarities, including how every cancer cell creates it's own acidic enviroment. Why is this the case for virtually ALL cancers AND fungi? It's a strange coincidence.

Aren't differentiated cells simply cells that have a specific purpose? In other words not stem cells? What difference does it make if a cell is differentiated or not for a fungal infection? The fungi spores don't care if it's a stem cell or other type. In fact, as you well know, cancers often spread to all types of cells, differentiated and undifferentiated. Right? Much like a fungus spreading.


I personally don't know. But I think there seems to be some interesting links between many cancers and fungal "infections".

Also, is it true that fungus is necessary to be in every human body as a component of the carbon life cycle? The fungus doesn't invade after death, it's already there, but in "remission" until the body becomes weak or dies.

Maybe these guys ARE quacks. But maybe they are also on to something?

<<In fact, as you well know, cancers often spread to all types of cells, differentiated and undifferentiated. Right? Much like a fungus spreading.

Without knowing a thing about the facts here, I can tell you this is a flawed argument. Maple syrup spreads that way too. And poison ivy. And the smell of cat litter.

I'm a little fuzzy on how antibiotics relate to fungus--which is to say, they don't. Anti-fungals do.

Studies from Germany are notoriously over-positive--meaning, their research journals skew tremendously toward favorable results at the expense of negative ones.

And I think it's safe to say that with the money, prestige and benefit of eradicating cancer, if it was truly just a matter of testing anti-fungal medication, most researchers would be jumping over each other to get there first.

I'm intrigued in theory, but not at all compelled by the "facts."

flat5ive said:

<<In fact, as you well know, cancers often spread to all types of cells, differentiated and undifferentiated. Right? Much like a fungus spreading.

Without knowing a thing about the facts here, I can tell you this is a flawed argument. Maple syrup spreads that way too. And poison ivy. And the smell of cat litter.

I'm a little fuzzy on how antibiotics relate to fungus--which is to say, they don't. Anti-fungals do.

Studies from Germany are notoriously over-positive--meaning, their research journals skew tremendously toward favorable results at the expense of negative ones.

And I think it's safe to say that with the money, prestige and benefit of eradicating cancer, if it was truly just a matter of testing anti-fungal medication, most researchers would be jumping over each other to get there first.

I'm intrigued in theory, but not at all compelled by the "facts."

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I don't think your examples are good comparisons , at all. Maple syrup?

If you pour syrup into a coffee cup, the cup doesn't BECOME syrup. You put a cancer cell next to a healthy cell, the healthy cell becomes cancer. Exactly like an INFECTION spreads.

I think you should read the article to find out how an antibiotic can also kill fungus AND cancer.

"The substance that turned out to be the best inhibitor of centrosome clustering is a long-known antibiotic called griseofulvin which is used primarily to treat fungal infections of the skin."

As for German studies, I would like to see any type of documentation of this claim of yours.

As for the last comment, can you even imagine the millions of research dollars that would be RETRACTED by the NCI if this was the case? Many people seem to believe that the NCI (National Cancer Institute), is fraudulent.

Case in point, breast cancer. They have been experimenting with a line of "breast cancer" cells for 25 years. OOPS. They recently found out the cell line in all probability isn't even breast cancer, but rather melanoma. Literally thousands of research projects and probably billions of dollars has been spent using this particularly nasty strain, which was incorrectly identified. They fully admit there is no way to really tell the two apart. (Except at a molecular level) Link:

http://www.the-scientist.com/news/display/55013/

The largest single organism on Earth is a fungus:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-largest-organism-is-fungus

"This one, A. ostoyae, causes Armillaria root disease, which kills swaths of conifers in many parts of the U.S. and Canada."

Fungus kills trees , I would say it is not good for humans. Mold rot!

If you ask me the Government should attempt to eradicate this shit.

It also infects tobacco leaves , so smokers are inhaling fungal spores!

... A cancer cell is a minor mutation of one of an organism's own cells. A human cancer cell is mammalian, which is radically different from fungus which comes from a whole other kingdom. The only distinct difference between malignant cancer cells and regular human cells is that malignant cancer cells are multiplying out of control (and in the process eating lots and spewing out lots of waste, which would account for any difference in acidity). Treatments which work against cancer work mainly by taking advantage of what a cell is weak against while replicating (radiation).

sunandshadow said:

... A cancer cell is a minor mutation of one of an organism's own cells. A human cancer cell is mammalian, which is radically different from fungus which comes from a whole other kingdom. The only distinct difference between malignant cancer cells and regular human cells is that malignant cancer cells are multiplying out of control (and in the process eating lots and spewing out lots of waste, which would account for any difference in acidity). Treatments which work against cancer work mainly by taking advantage of what a cell is weak against while replicating (radiation).

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Can fungal spores already exist in many living human body cells? They get in the body and into individual cells through various means. Fungal spores can be <1 micron in diameter.

In fact, most all human tissues contain "spore-like" stem cells. These "spore-like cells" are highly undifferentiated, and can reproduce into many different types of human body cells. They "lie dormant" within tissues and fluid-filled individual cells "until activated by various external influences".

Here is a patent on how to extract these "spore-like cells" from mammalian tissues or cells.:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7060492.html

Human "spore-like" cells are not much different from Fungus spores. They are both tiny spores containing DNA.

So I wonder, could fungal spores also lie dormant in otherwise "normal" cells, until these cells somehow become damaged and the fungal spores become activated?

It seems there are good spores and bad spores throught us all. The good "spore-like cells" can regenerate almost every tissue in the body. The "bad" spores also have a use, which is final disposal of all creatures back into the carbon cycle.

This page raises some other interesting questions:

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Linfection.htm

I also wonder if a healing wound creates more acid, since cells trying to heal the wound are also dividing rapidly and excreting large amounts of waste. I do not think this is the case. Insofar as changing the surrounding pH to any detectable anomalous levels, such as cancer cells do.

Also, It's interesting to note that fungal infections such as Blastomycosis can literally "mimic" cancer:

"Blastomycosis may coexist or mimic a bronchogenic carcinoma.
http://www.doctorfungus.org/MYCOSES/HUMAN/BLASTO/blastomycosis.htm

How can a fungal infection "coexist and mimic" a carcinoma?

More:

"Histopathological examination of the resected lung revealed pulmonary cryptococcosis within a papillary adenocarcinoma. "

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/internalmedicine/45/6/45_369/_article

Cryptococcosis within a carcinoma?

They speculate that the cancer preceded the fungal infection, but they do not know.

Another interesting fact, fungal infections and cancers often "co-exist", due to the cancer causing immunosuppresion. Or does the fungus cause the cancer?

http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?is...=72;issue=6;spage=470;epage=470;aulast=Samson