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I've heard about this film for years and saw it last night.

It's bad. In fact, I wouldn't even give it one star.

Plot? Laughable.
Characters? Cardboard.
Acting? Poor.

Martial Arts? You'd think this would be awesome. Nope, corny sound effects, bad editing, and rather generic fight scenes.
 
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The fight scenes are generic because everybody after copied it. It is quite hilarious, though. It's even better after you've seen the parody Fistful Of Yen, in the Kentucky Fried Movie. I highly recommend it.
 
I don't get the whole fascination with old kung fu movies. That corny sound effect driven boring action.
 
you obviously watched the version with the nunchuks scene cut out :)
 
sexy-girl said:
you obviously watched the version with the nunchuks scene cut out :)
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That whole scene was soooo over the top. Pure comedy gold.
 
sexy-girl said:
you obviously watched the version with the nunchuks scene cut out :)
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No, I saw the nunchuks scene.

Interestingly, after Lee whips those nunchucks around his body for a minute, the guy he's fighting grabs a broom and rushes him, and Lee kicks him in the face. I hate to say this, but martial arts action is rather unimpressive when your enemy is armed like a janitor and you don't even beat him with the weapon you just showed off.
 
but he was using nunchucks (that scene was banned from versions in the uk for years) ... perhaps the film is better when you're still in school and dream of learning martial arts instead of doing gymnastics 3 times a week
 
And here we have yet another person who apprently has no concept of the idea of context.

Looked at from the standpoint of 2007 when you have had recent bullshit like House of The Flying Dagger or whatever the fuck it was called, you know the one where they could literally walk on air and everything was CGI'd to death, then yeah Enter The Dragon looks pretty hokey.

But you have to look at it in the contest of the time it was released. It did for Kung-fu movies what Star Wars did for sci-fi pics.
 
Bruce Lee was also a very charismatic figure back in the day. He was a bonafide action star and pioneered a genre that didn't get much more than novelty consideration to that point. The fight scenes were pretty exceptional - much better than any that had been done to that point. His movies were, for their time, quite unlike anything else that was being made. That's why they are still around today. They're movie history.
 
EveryColorOfFun said:
And here we have yet another person who apprently has no concept of the idea of context.

Looked at from the standpoint of 2007 when you have had recent bullshit like House of The Flying Dagger or whatever the fuck it was called, you know the one where they could literally walk on air and everything was CGI'd to death, then yeah Enter The Dragon looks pretty hokey.
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Plot, characters, and acting were invented in the 1970s?

If I had only known, I'd never have come down so hard on Enter the Dragon. Thanks for the history lesson.
 
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Plot? Laughable.
Characters? Cardboard.
Acting? Poor.
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Do you watch porn for the plot, characters, and acting, too ? This is a martial arts flick, a basically new genre, in the west at least, when it came out. You watched it for the fight scenes, which were, for it's time, pretty damn good.
 
Keep in mind that there were no martial arts movies in mainstream American cinema before that film. It's praised as much as it is because it was the breakthrough movie that started a whole genre of action films. Plus, it did the unthinkable: made an Asian man a star without resorting to the commonplace of the era, which was making them caricatures of themselves.

Yeah, it was hokey. But if you've ever seen a 1970s era action flick, they were all hokey. In comparison, this was one of the better ones.
 
Never said:
I've heard about this film for years and saw it last night.

It's bad. In fact, I wouldn't even give it one star.

Plot? Laughable.
Characters? Cardboard.
Acting? Poor.

Martial Arts? You'd think this would be awesome. Nope, corny sound effects, bad editing, and rather generic fight scenes.
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You can't judge a Bruce Lee movie on any of those points. Nor can you see one for the first time today and not be influenced by the movies that have come since and which were heavily influenced by Enter the Dragon.
 
Never said:
I've heard about this film for years and saw it last night.

It's bad. In fact, I wouldn't even give it one star.

Plot? Laughable.
Characters? Cardboard.
Acting? Poor.

Martial Arts? You'd think this would be awesome. Nope, corny sound effects, bad editing, and rather generic fight scenes.
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Martial Arts movies were shit until Bruce Lee stepped on the scene. Granted, I haven't seen the whole movie, but I've seen the last hour or so, and it is a decent martial arts flick, if you like martial arts flicks.
 
It's obvious I've misjudged this movie.

Perhaps I need to look at a few other films of that era and then watch it again.
 
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It's obvious I've misjudged this movie.

Perhaps I need to look at a few other films of that era and then watch it again.
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It's not just the era, it's the genre. You can't judge them like other movies.
Things like plot, acting and writing just get in the way.
 
One good thing about "Enter The Dragon":

No people flying around on wires. That shit really bugs me for some reason.
 
Never said:
It's obvious I've misjudged this movie.

Perhaps I need to look at a few other films of that era and then watch it again.
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Actually, you're pretty accurate when comparing it to dramatic films, or even many modern action/martial arts epics.

I just love the film because of what it was, as I stated above.
 
To this day Bruce Lee is still revered in the martial arts community. People still copy him. Enter the Dragon is an awesome film. The camera is not sped up in the fight scenes. Bruce was that fast. And there were many times in the making of that film they were really making contact. Bruce trained Kareem Abdul Jabar & to this day Kareem says that if Bruce hit you you knew it. He knocked Kareem down many times during training.

Bruce woulda kicked Chuck Norris' ass & then moved on to Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat & Jet Li.
 
BuffRudy said:
Bruce woulda kicked Chuck Norris' ass & then moved on to Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat & Jet Li.
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I believe that Bruce Lee could kick all of their asses. I don't believe any of them have claimed to be real martial artists.

However, I was told for a long time that this was a 'classic' and I expect classics to hold up to their modern equivalents. This can be harder for some genres than others. Still, Once Upon a Time in China (1991) has physical artistry as good as any in CTHD, the Matrix, or Spider-Man.
 
Never said:
I believe that Bruce Lee could kick all of their asses. I don't believe any of them have claimed to be real martial artists.

However, I was told for a long time that this was a 'classic' and I expect classics to hold up to their modern equivalents. This can be harder for some genres than others. Still, Once Upon a Time in China (1991) has physical artistry as good as any in CTHD, the Matrix, or Spider-Man.
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Pretty sure Jet Li and Chuck Norris are real martial artists. I know he wasn't mentioned but Steven Segal has started a couple of martial arts schools.

Almost every "classic" I've read or seen is disappointing. People call things "classics" because they redefined the genre.
 
MechaBlade said:
Pretty sure Jet Li and Chuck Norris are real martial artists. I know he wasn't mentioned but Steven Segal has started a couple of martial arts schools.

Almost every "classic" I've read or seen is disappointing. People call things "classics" because they redefined the genre.
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Segal? You've got to be joking.
 
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