LynetteLovett
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When I had sex with mean I was an advocate for "No glove no love" and in my erotic writing I use that to my advantage.
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OK, Kurokami, I've gone back over the thread. Sorry, but I saw no other poster claiming as sweeping a use of condoms and other protective means as Cruel did. So, I guess my answer has to be that I singled her out because she singled herself out. And, yes, she did exhibit incomplete knowledge of gay sex activity, even though GM is what she writes.
I'll reiterate, though, that the story of hers I reviewed looks like a real good story--it just doesn't do what she advocated all should do.
My point was never about why you care about Cruel specifically, but about why you care at all. What does it matter to you if all her stories are exactingly safe or not? Are you just that desperate to prove someone wrong?
What are your thoughts on writing safe sex?
I so much admired the way gay men's stories often make condoms a normal part of the erotic scenes. At first I thought since I write fantasy I couldn't do it but then I thought, "Really! what kind of writer are you? See it as a creative challenge." Some of my friends said they were surprised by the condoms popping up in my fantasy world (and one wanted me to use a special herb instead which he suggested could have other properties too - yes, he is of that generation) but nobody has complained in the feedback.
I partly decided to do this because of some research I've been doing on Sex and Relationships Education. I realised that although kids (in the UK anyway) are being taught how to put a condom on a banana, they aren't being taught to have the self-confidence to say: "No, I won't do it if it's not safe." I set up a blog which I have been developing where I'm reviewing erotica which is 'safe' as a portal for young people (well, people of any age really) who want to explore but might be nervous about just plunging into the wild and wonderful world of internet stuff on sex. Here I only review stories in which safe sex is practised, as I hope in this way to encourage people to feel condom usage is normal.
What do you think?
I'd like to write a blogpost about this on my other blog where I collect thoughts on writing erotica.
Feminist Erotica:
http://feministerotica.blogspot.co.uk/
Erotica Writers' Bloc:
http://feministeroticawriters.blogspot.co.uk/
It's the flip side, Kurokami. The assertion of this thread was what should be required (by implication, if you didn't want to be sent to writer's hell for killing readers because you didn't read them the safety manual in your story). I care that erotica writers would think/assert that other writers should be that anal retentive and morality police about it. The assertion was floated on this thread, and I was voicing my rejection of that; then the assertion floated that it could always be done and still be erotic--and that it was being done--so I shot that one down.
And what's your problem then? What do you think you need to prove? What's the burr under your saddle here?
Peace, then. Yes, I didn't get what you thought you were asking from what how your post read.
This "treat the reader like a child who needs protected" is a theme that runs through frequent discussions on this forum, though--often in the form of notes that "need" to be put on the front of stories. Here it was in the form of a responsibility to preach safe sex to them in the story and to limit what you put in your story thereby.
yes, one brand is "lifestyles."Can you get a condom on a schlong the size of a coke can? Anyone any practical experience?
Can you get a condom on a schlong the size of a coke can? Anyone any practical experience?
That's a cool argument about whether to write safe sex. I can go with this argument although I still think there might be room for writing erotica which does offer a safe sex environment especially if aimed specifically at a younger readership perhaps?
I do remember one writer saying another writer didn't know much about gm sex.
Readers rarely care if the gay sex is full of poo and insists on condoms or fails to mention any poo
Shouldn't the assumption be for a Literotica forum thread that we're talking about writing stories for Literotica? There should be no underage readership here. Every reader should be assumed to be an adult. If not, that's their problem/lookout.
(Although I must say that there's an angle here that makes the discussion of underage writers and readers here particularly delicious for this thread. If have to know Literotica history to see that angle, though. )
That's true but let's talk here not about underage readers, just young ones. That might mean old in years but lacking in worldly experience.
And how many condoms does a dancing squid have to wear to be safe?
It really is the story that provides the opportunity to 'preach' safe sex.
I'm writing a story that demands a level of safe sex, but it's not Gay Male and there is no poo, thank god.
I don't think that all stories should push safe sex, but some of them should show that STD's and pregnancies do occur and need to be considered when you do get to the final push.
Bravo on this post! How many double entendres can dance on the head of a dancing squid?
That's what I think.
And I think it's fun to see if you can slip it in, as smoothly as a slippery dancing squid, without the reader going: WTF! Or, Boring, I didn't come here for a lesson in safe sex.
LOL
Bravo on this post! How many double entendres can dance on the head of a dancing squid?