First General killed in combat zone since Vietnam War

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In Afghanistan, today a man suspected to be an Afghan army officer opened fire on Afghan and NATO troops. He killed an American two-star general, the highest-ranking U.S. officer killed in Afghanistan. NPR has confirmed that he is Major General Harold Greene and that his family has been notified. We'll hear more about Greene in a few minutes. Today's shooting took place at an Afghan Army officer training facility outside Kabul. At least 15 other NATO troops and three Afghans were wounded.
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/05/338099717/gunman-kills-american-general-in-shooting-at-afghan-facility

http://www.npr.org/2014/08/05/33814...gen-harold-greene-was-an-engineer-by-training

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http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Peace/2014/08/05/gen-harold-greene-armyphoto.jpg

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I appreciate you posting this, and I understand why it's considered more significant that a general was killed than someone of lower rank, but when I look at his photo I think he at least got to live a good part of his life, unlike a lot of twenty year olds who've died there. But may he rest in peace.
 
First General killed in combat zone since Vietnam War

A totally fallacious headline...

...Greene can't be the the "First General killed in combat zone since Vietnam War" because he wasn't a "General".

I appreciate you posting this, and I understand why it's considered more significant that a general was killed than someone of lower rank...

...Greene was a Major General and, as such, he was most definitely "of lower rank" than "a general" - two stars lower, in fact.
 
A totally fallacious headline...

...Greene can't be the the "First General killed in combat zone since Vietnam War" because he wasn't a "General".



...Greene was a Major General and, as such, he was most definitely "of lower rank" than "a general" - two stars lower, in fact.

I realize you likely never served in uniform, but lieutenants, colonels and generals are referred to by those respect ranks even though there are two different levels of lieutenants and colonels, and 5 levels of general rank as well. (And yes, I'm aware there are no 5 star generals currently).

The only time the full rank is used is in formal reports and hearings, if I recall correctly (i.e. "Gunnery Sergeant Vetteman was observed sodomizing a chicken by Private First Class Jones, who reported this incident to Lieutenant Colonel Smith.")

Dummy.
 
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A totally fallacious headline...

...Greene can't be the the "First General killed in combat zone since Vietnam War" because he wasn't a "General".



...Greene was a Major General and, as such, he was most definitely "of lower rank" than "a general" - two stars lower, in fact.

Oh, come on. Everybody in the military considers a Major General as being a general. That's being ridiculous.
 
Oh, come on. Everybody in the military considers a Major General as being a general. That's being ridiculous.

Yes, toubab, you've struck me from the very start as definitely being an A=whatever kind of...uh...

...person.
 
HUSSEIN obama has yet to say anything, but ney, its his birthday:cool:
 
Yes, toubab, you've struck me from the very start as definitely being an A=whatever kind of...uh...

...person.

I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but would you make the same objection if the grade was sergeant? There are at least a half a dozen different kinds of sergeants, and I assure you most are just called Sergeant, or Sarge, in the military.
 
You can't "assure" sh!t, doofus.

I assure you I can. And since you want to go on about this, a Major General is a general officer, and the word 'general' is used two different ways in the military. It's not only used for a specific rank, but also as a generic term.
 
I can't believe how many assholes on this board jump in to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, when they don't know what they are talking about.
 
Considering nobody in the Marines at least would ever survive calling someone Sarge nor are the multiple ranks of Sergeant used interchangibly you are incorrect there.

However when speaking to the press they might be, I never spoke to the press and there's no real point in trying to confuse hem on the differences when it's not important to the message they are trying to convey.
 
I can't believe how many assholes on this board jump in to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, when they don't know what they are talking about.

Obviously, I can't speak for all "assholes"...

...but you expect "assholes" to act how?
 
Considering nobody in the Marines at least would ever survive calling someone Sarge nor are the multiple ranks of Sergeant used interchangibly you are incorrect there.

However when speaking to the press they might be, I never spoke to the press and there's no real point in trying to confuse hem on the differences when it's not important to the message they are trying to convey.

I was not only in the Air Force, where we used Sergeant and Sarge a lot, I spent a lot of time in training with members of the other branches, Army, Navy, and Marines. I know what I'm talking about. Sergeant or Sarge is commonly used by members of the Army and Marines, and that's how we addressed them too.
 
I was not only in the Air Force, where we used Sergeant and Sarge a lot, I spent a lot of time in training with members of the other branches, Army, Navy, and Marines. I know what I'm talking about. Sergeant or Sarge is commonly used by members of the Army and Marines, and that's how we addressed them too.

How many times did you call the Chief Master, "Sarge", son?
 
You knew some Marines who were going way out there to be cool with you if they let you get away with that shit.
 
I knew when to use Sergeant, and when to use Sarge, if that's what you want to know.

Squiggle like a little runt if you must...

...how many times did you call the Chief Master, "Sergeant", son?
 
Generally a General is an officer, and an officer is generally referred to as a bastard.

Generally speaking.
 
Squiggle like a little runt if you must...

...how many times did you call the Chief Master, "Sergeant", son?

None that I recall, moron. And in case you are too stupid to understand, that doesn't mean I didn't commonly refer to all kinds of sergeants as Sergeant or Sarge. You have no idea how idiotic you are.
 
It's generally seen as supremely disrespectful. Somewhere up there with calling a Doctor, dude. But that's not to say it couldn't happen. I remember working with the locals when I was in Iraq/Kuwait and they constantly told us never to give the thumbs up because in the local lexicon it means "up yours" not "good job." And to use the okay symbol instead. I found quickly that even if they were partially doing it as an inside joke "ha ha, the stupid American thought up yours was a good thing!" they were genuinely trying to communicate with us in terms that we could understand. If some foreigner can do that for me I wouldn't put it beyond the realms of possible that a Marine could do it for you. :)

It is not however normal within our own ranks. As for general they are all generals but since officers all refered to as Sir regardless of actual rank 99% of the time that's kinda beside the point.
 
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