Monday, April 15th: First Ever Criminal Trial for a Former US President

[desecration]

You're allowed to be wrong. I don't mind.

On a more serious note, I wonder if the GOP really has a plan at all. They barely seem to agree with each other on anything. Trump just provides a distraction from how little these people accomplish.

 

[Rightguide]

Here the left is trying to bootstrap a misdemeanor that is beyond the statute of limitations and convert it into a federal felony that was passed on by the DOJ's Southern District of NY prosecutors, and that Alvin Bragg has zero authority to prosecute. All of it centered on the testimony of Michael Cohen who a judge has called a "serial perjurer." The bottom line is the defendant has a right to know what crime he is being accused of, so far we don't know what it is and neither does Trump. This prosecution is beyond the pale. All three of the prosecutions of Trump are headed by radical Democrats. It's all political and it's all election interference.

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump had plenty of experience with NDAs long before Michael Cohen became one of Trump's many attorneys or ex-attorneys. Lawyers of Cohen's ilk act as 'body-lawyers' for Donald and twist the arms of women to keep them quiet. Cohen handled the DNA portion of this, and it went well according to the common practice, as you noted, of using non-disclosure agreements. Out of fear, she says, she was quiet during 2016 election cycle. Cohen then, like so many others, went on to lie for Trump and ultimately perjured himself in the coverup. Those legal experts are serving, have served, or will be tried as a result of those lies in pending cases, assuming justice even gets around to trying them.

Did Cohen advise Trump to make the hush money repayments as an income tax right off?

Trump didn't hire Cohen as a tax consultant. Imagine the mentality of Trump's gloating at that moment: I screwed her, shut 'a Karen' the fuck up, so why shouldn't I write off the expenses as a tax deduction payment to my lawyer for services and get my money's worth out of it? That's how I do business - this is America. I'm allowed to screw with the law and get away with it. It's what I do - screw you, Ms. Justice - I'm Donald J. Trump, and you can't fuck with me.

Bragg and others realized that justice wasn't served and, despite the time limitations, found, as you said, a way to right that wrong. They're applying a novel approach - that's allowed in law. You have to prove that to a jury and that is now in the process of playing out.

Cohen acknowledged he fell under the spell of believing he was protecting the President's rights, as wrong as he was. It took time for his epiphany.

You fret over how unfair the law is being applied in New York. I guess that's a fair thing to ponder. You, of course, do recall that when the Feds were frustrated with trying to convict Al Capone because the witnesses either died or were too afraid to testify, they moved to a novel resolution - got him on income tax evasion. Now, according to your premise, that wasn't fair since they went around the 'system' as they couldn't get Capone for murder and went for tax evasion. In the end, justice removed Capone from the crime business. The important thing here is that Capone, a dangerous 'businessman,' was removed from further acts of violence.

Saying that Trump cannot get a fair trial as this is a 95% Democrat jury pool is a red-herring deflection. Trump deserves no less than a fair shake in the People's Court as well. You sound jaded. New York has millions of citizens to choose from, and you know full well that the pool of jurors cannot be asked about their political affiliations, which party they contributed money to, or similar political questions. Separation of politics from justice - that's the premise.

Good luck with the jury selection process underway today! Popcorn and soda at the ready.

Trying to morph a misdemeanor charge that outran its statute of limitations into a federal charge is unprecedented and untried legal theory. This trial reeks of judicial and political activism and I hope for justice sake it’s acquitted or thrown out through the appellate process. Trump is not Capone. There is no criminal statute that Bragg is trying to hang Trump on. Like everything else about this case no one knows exactly what the charge is.

 

[icanhelp1]

So, what is Trump's measurement these days? Just political drama and nothing concerning alleged crime?

Should he be able to sue the women he screwed and forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement in return for money to keep quiet if involved a future criminal act? The judges determined the NDA was invalid, right?

Nothing about his immoral behavior and cheating on his wife comes into play for you. No condemnation about that from you?

Just turn this around in your mind as if it were somehow a fair turnabout.

I’ve posted before that I’m not a big Trump fan but I agree with many of his policies. Dems have their own closet skeletons, Clinton, JFK, Robert Kennedy, Ted the Murderer.

 

[ll74]

On a more serious note, I wonder if the GOP really has a plan at all. They barely seem to agree with each other on anything. Trump just provides a distraction from how little these people accomplish.

They don't. Mostly they're just a bunch of pseudo libertarian anti government jerks who spend more time talking about cultural grievances than actual policy, hence the threads created here on the daily.

 

[icanhelp1]

Here the left is trying to bootstrap a misdemeanor that is beyond the statute of limitations and convert it into a federal felony that was passed on by the DOJ's Southern District of NY prosecutors, and that Alvin Bragg has zero authority to prosecute. All of it centered on the testimony of Michael Cohen who a judge has called a "serial perjurer." The bottom line is the defendant has a right to know what crime he is being accused of, so far we don't know what it is and neither does Trump. This prosecution is beyond the pale. All three of the prosecutions of Trump are headed by radical Democrats. It's all political and it's all election interference.

Dems are petrified to go head to head against Trump in a fair election process. Biden is losing in the polls so any unethical weaponization of the justice system, well, ends justify the means, at all cost even if it sets our judicial system back a thousand years. Dems are a vile bunch.

 

[desecration]

Mostly they're just a bunch of pseudo libertarian anti government jerks who spend more time talking about cultural grievances than actual policy, hence the threads created here on the daily.

If they were actually libertarian, or at least simply oriented toward market-based solutions, I think they would have more support. People fear fundamentalist religious theocracy taking over. Something about when totalitarianism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.

 

[jaF0]

"Execute ALL who Go against their Oath to the Constitution of the United States of America, "

Did someone say to execute Donny and his elk?

 

[jaF0]

For the defacator, Donny is the RINO. He was a (D) for a while and changed parties ONLY to run for office. Romney, McCain and others along those lines are true Republicans.

 

[ll74]

If they were actually libertarian, or at least simply oriented toward market-based solutions, I think they would have more support. People fear fundamentalist religious theocracy taking over. Something about when totalitarianism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.

Hence the word "pseudo" being used.

But yes, there are many who believe our country should be a theocracy.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Did Trump NOT pay hush money to a porn star?

 

[Bray123]

Did Trump NOT pay hush money to a porn star?

Depends how you define someone who has sex for money. If she's filmed for public entertainment, it's 'porn star'. If she's filmed in the back room of a Thai hotel, it's 'whore'.

But it's because he laundered the payments so that people like T&T paid her instead of him (therefore making it a campaign contribution) that's the issue.

 

[TandT69]

For the defacator, Donny is the RINO. He was a (D) for a while and changed parties ONLY to run for office. Romney, McCain and others along those lines are true Republican

Want to bet any amount of money, these prosecutors, these lawyers and these communist judges get hanged before Trump spends one minute in prison? Put your money where your mouth is commie! Your supporting a communist regime, there for you are a COMMUNIST, NOTHING LESS NOTHING MORE! By the way, have you figured out why Commie Biden hasnt closed GITMO yet? All it takes is a stroke of the pen, you know. Like Trump did to Osama Obamas order! Did you see Trumps huge motorcade today? With an ambulance! Why cant Commie Joe have an ambulance in his tiny little 3 car motorcade? We know why!

 

[desecration]

But it's because he laundered the payments so that people like T&T paid her instead of him (therefore making it a campaign contribution) that's the issue.

I doubt it. Politicians pay all the time for image enhancements. They'll find this one not illegal. Question is whether they do it at the trial level or cost the taxpayers another few million for the appeal.

 

[ByteMe13]

Lock him up!

 

[Bray123]

EED. Expose this Banana Republic Judicial system for the world to see, Execute ALL who Go against their Oath to the Constitution of the United States of America, Dispose of them after stripping them of their citizenship. Watch close.....NOTHING CAN STOP WHATS COMING!

I think you don't quite grasp the seriousness. It's all a grand plan that will end with Trump in jail and Q riding a white horse across the Rose Garden and into the Oval Office.

Thus the end-play will show that you have all been taken for mugs, Q will declare himself God and those with 'Made in China' imprinted on their heads from the sweat bands of red hats will serve in the oil-shale mines of the mid-west.

 

[dmallord]

Trying to morph a misdemeanor charge that outran its statute of limitations into a federal charge is unprecedented and untried legal theory. This trial reeks of judicial and political activism and I hope for justice sake it’s acquitted or thrown out through the appellate process. Trump is not Capone. There is no criminal statute that Bragg is trying to hang Trump on. Like everything else about this case no one knows exactly what the charge is.

Let's wait until the trial reaches a verdict before you start throwing out the charges at the appellate level. You sound convinced Trump is guilty. Is that your conscience speaking on your behalf?

We are indeed in unprecedented times. This is the first time a President has faced a criminal court trial. What other belligerent President has created such a background of malfeasance?

Trump bragged about Al Capone just this past week in one of his rallies, comparing how he is being treated to the way the Feds got Capone. Trump even gloated about how Capone just killed people and got away with it. Trump believes he will as well. Trump and Capone together as one and the same - should be a great movie one day.

Thirty-four felony accounts are not exactly clueless indications of what Trump is charged with. Try another deflection point. Maybe like how Judge Merchan will not hold court on Barron's graduation day - political malfeasance, right?

Hang Trump? Nice reference to the Mike Pense noose, or were you going metaphorically here? After all, you pointed out it was a misdemeanor level, and as far as I and you know, that's not a hanging offense. Then again, Melania might think so. Jail time is on the table - though not likely. How many secret servicemen would want to sit around the prison cell protecting Trump from enemies within?

Just in from the pressbox: Trump's lawyer states Trump may not attend all the sessions. Merchan spoke directly to the former president for the first time all day, issuing a stark warning that if he fails to show up for trial without a reason, a warrant will be issued for his arrest.

A fine way to introduce yourself at trial.

 

[SmokingFap]

Cohen is going to try to convince a jury to put Trump in jail for following his legal advice. Bizarro world.

I'm sure if Trump can convince the jury that he was just following Cohen's advice and not giving instructions, he'll get his "get out of jail free" card.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Watch close.....NOTHING CAN STOP WHATS COMING!

y'know, TeeTee...

...the rule about catchphrases is that you reeeeally don't want to burn them out with overuse or they become your official epitaph when you keep losing.

you can ask Harpy about the one he wore into the ground and hasn't used in years.

 

[SmokingFap]

Trying to morph a misdemeanor charge that outran its statute of limitations into a federal charge is unprecedented and untried legal theory. This trial reeks of judicial and political activism and I hope for justice sake it’s acquitted or thrown out through the appellate process. Trump is not Capone. There is no criminal statute that Bragg is trying to hang Trump on. Like everything else about this case no one knows exactly what the charge is.

No one except the lawyers and the judge involved, as well as anyone with access to Google. You're beyond willfully ignorant.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/15/trump-hush-money-trial-key-arguments

 

[SmokingFap]

Juror #1, come on down!

 

[Rightguide]

Let's wait until the trial reaches a verdict before you start throwing out the charges at the appellate level. You sound convinced Trump is guilty. Is that your conscience speaking on your behalf?

We are indeed in unprecedented times. This is the first time a President has faced a criminal court trial. What other belligerent President has created such a background of malfeasance?

Trump bragged about Al Capone just this past week in one of his rallies, comparing how he is being treated to the way the Feds got Capone. Trump even gloated about how Capone just killed people and got away with it. Trump believes he will as well. Trump and Capone together as one and the same - should be a great movie one day.

Thirty-four felony accounts are not exactly clueless indications of what Trump is charged with. Try another deflection point. Maybe like how Judge Merchan will not hold court on Barron's graduation day - political malfeasance, right?

Hang Trump? Nice reference to the Mike Pense noose, or were you going metaphorically here? After all, you pointed out it was a misdemeanor level, and as far as I and you know, that's not a hanging offense. Then again, Melania might think so. Jail time is on the table - though not likely. How many secret servicemen would want to sit around the prison cell protecting Trump from enemies within?

Just in from the pressbox: Trump's lawyer states Trump may not attend all the sessions. Merchan spoke directly to the former president for the first time all day, issuing a stark warning that if he fails to show up for trial without a reason, a warrant will be issued for his arrest.

A fine way to introduce yourself at trial.

This prosecution is a miscarriage of justice.

 

[Bray123]

Sleepy Don takes a Nana-Nap during his trial. So his childish 'Sleepy Joe' was a projection as we all thought.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1779912795699761418

 

[Rightguide]

A serial perjurer will try to prove an old misdemeanor against Trump in an embarrassment for the New York legal system​

By
Social Links for Jonathan Turley
Published April 14, 2024, 1:44 p.m. ET

After an absurd $450 million decision courtesy of Attorney General Letitia James, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg will bring his equally controversial criminal prosecution over hush money paid to former porn star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election.

Lawyers have been scouring the civil and criminal codes for any basis to sue or prosecute Trump before the upcoming 2024 election. This week will highlight the damage done to New York’s legal system because of this unhinged crusade. They’ve charged him with everything short of ripping a label off a mattress.

Just a few weeks ago, another judge imposed a roughly half billion dollar penalty in a case without a single victim who lost a single cent on loans with Trump. (Indeed, bank officials testified they wanted more business with the Trump organization).

Now Bragg is bringing a case that has taken years to develop and millions of dollars in litigation costs for all parties. That is all over a crime from before the 2016 election that is a misdemeanor under state law that had already expired under the statute of limitations.

More here: https://nypost.com/2024/04/14/opini...-embarrassment-for-the-new-york-legal-system/

Note this is written by a nationally prominent Democrat law professor.

 

[Rightguide]

Here are the primary reasons why this case should never have been brought:

Alvin Bragg's Trump Case - A Primer​

All you need to know about the left's latest -- and lamest -- lawfare​

PAUL
APR 14, 2024

Let’s be blunt: with over 30 years of law enforcement and legal experience in and around the criminal justice system — much of it dealing with the Manhattan DA’s office — I can tell you with 100% assurance that there is NO WAY this case is made against anyone not named Trump.

Now, full disclosure: We published most of the below immediately after the case’s indictment. But it all still holds — including the obvious problems the case has.

Here’s why.

First: Understand that the case could only be made if the charges were felonies, because the misdemeanor version of that charge has a statute of limitations of two years. We are clearly past that.

What follows are complete explanations as to why this case is a made-up hit on Trump:

https://opsdesk.substack.com/p/alvi...&r=17wqvp&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email