KimGordon67
Rampant feminist
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Yes. What other world do you think I'm talking about?
Just checking. I'll get back to this when I have a keyboard.
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Yes. What other world do you think I'm talking about?
But it does work the same everywhere. It's the types of government control that are different, and once again government control, ownership and or administration over the means and markets is not capitalism.
Capitalism just people exchanging goods and services privately...that's ALL capitalism is.
If you've ever participated in or witnessed an un-licensed/regulated economic exchange... you've seen free market capitalism happen in real life. From a kids lemonade stand to buying drugs or a guitar from some guy off face book.
I'm not talking about an abstract concept. I just sold my Gibson Les Paul for 5,500 bucks just a few days ago.
There was absolutely no need for government to facilitate, regulate or manage the transaction. Which probably makes the sale illegal in California some how.
But legal or not that was pure free market exchange, capitalism in action....happens every day all over the world.
If everyone had equal levels of merit (economically speaking) there would be no poverty or inequality of any kind. Nor would there be a need for government to force equal merit.
And if someone really thought everyone had equal levels of merit, why would they not support capitalism? Why would anyone who thinks that support socialistic policy, government force of violence, in order to create social and economic equity? They wouldn't.....because deep down inside they know everyone is not equal. People are different on an individual basis.
And are you ever going to back up what you said in post #76?
You're saying there both is capitalism and isn't capitalism.
It happens all the time, everywhere, and yet nothing that happens in the US is capitalism because: government control.
Still doesn't get away from the fact that once you consider a nation, communities, and government, you MUST start considering capitalism in a wider sense than here and there.
Sure, I went and bought a hamburger at McDonald's.
But I paid taxes. That food has been through government inspection. The restaurant has to have certain health standards. Nothing about it is completely free and in the wild.
And MY one little purchase is from a huge corporation. Mickey D's. I'm just one consumer, but the price I pay, everything about it is interrelated to that larger corporation. And corporations cannot just do what they want willy nilly, because they conduct business in a nation a, a town, therefore gubmint, society, people, rules.
Those little girls selling lemonade got lemons probably with little stickers on them from the gubmint. Water that comes from the town. Sugar that comes from some corporation which has paid slaves wages somewhere in the third world to get it. Nothing about THAT is free and unregulated, either.
So no, "free" capitalism is a myth they use to sell to the dumb fucks who believe a gun = mah "freedom."
You're saying there both is capitalism and isn't capitalism.
Still doesn't get away from the fact that once you consider a nation, communities, and government, you MUST start considering capitalism in a wider sense than here and there.
Nothing about THAT is free and unregulated, either.
So no, "free" capitalism is a myth they use to sell to the dumb fucks who believe a gun = mah "freedom."
Didn't say it didn't happen. Said it wasn't "free."
Didn't say it didn't happen. Said it wasn't "free."
Capitalism just people exchanging goods and services privately...that's ALL capitalism is.
Capitalism is private ownership of productive wealth.
It is not less capitalism when the government provides business subsidies in return for political contributions, or if the dictator and his cronies own everything worth owning,