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This. Seriously, the most intense orgasms I've ever had.
Waving to a new, fellow traveler.
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This. Seriously, the most intense orgasms I've ever had.
Orgasms from pain-play are the brightest in the universe for me.
This. Seriously, the most intense orgasms I've ever had.
Well, I'm not sure I have all that much to add to this train of conversation as I certainly don't consider myself a pain slut. In fact, pain scares the bejesus out of me!
But...I will say, the only time I've ever managed a multiple orgasm was after an intense little bit of pain that I wasn't particularly excited about engaging in. Whether it was the pain or the submission I couldn't really say, but it was certainly an intense experience.
I would definitely be willing to consider the endorphin rush from thoughtfully applied pain to be similar to hypnotic trance.
Curiously, I'm apparently somewhat hypnosis-resistant. Go figure?
I answered my question by watching some old vids of Milton H. Erickson MD hypnotizing patients. So, pain sluts are in trance when they respond to whatevers going on. There's no formula, per se, that others can utilize, the female is responding singularly to her partner.
Some people are relational about pain and do it for Daddy or whatever, and some people are in love with pain gratia pain, in which case the person dealing it out is completely unimportant. I think they experience the sensation differently than the majority of people, probably also looking for fire ant hills, with a touch more exhibitionist wiring. I've worked on people like this, and I've always been done before they are. People who would die smiling if you beat the life out of them, so you need to be done before they are. Contusions and bleeding are a blissful high, not a test to be passed with grit and determination. Most people are taking another for me, need the emotional link, the buy-in, more than just more pain. A pain slut isn't listening and doesn't care, as long as Madame Pain is in da house.
(I'd say only the latter is actually a painslut, the former is just a masochist in a relationship or a submissive submitting to painful stimulus as an act of submission or something else.) The formula is the same and almost anyone can use it - the painslut is the equivalent of the highly suggestible ideal stage hypno subject who drops like a rock, clucks like a chicken, and ready to buy in. Or they're masterful self-hypnotizers. It's also not about you, when you're working one of these people over. It's a cool and slightly unsettling experience, but if you're kinked to reactivity in your partner (I am) it's not something you really go out looking for.
It's the submissive who's the more typical subject, with some defenses up, whose sensations you have to appeal to, whose story you have to know, whose language you have to speak, to make any inroads.
Milton Erickson MD said pretty much what you say about people responses. I found the ancient vid after I posted my question to the board. And even Napoleon spoke of it...MOSCOW WASNT MY IDEA, I WANTED TO GO TO LONDON, MY ARMY WANTED TO GO TO MOSCOW! Erickson talked of patients going their way, and it was his job to suggest better plots to get there. Hypnosis is manipulation with integrity, I s'pose.
Milton Erickson MD said pretty much what you say about people responses. I found the ancient vid after I posted my question to the board. And even Napoleon spoke of it...MOSCOW WASNT MY IDEA, I WANTED TO GO TO LONDON, MY ARMY WANTED TO GO TO MOSCOW! Erickson talked of patients going their way, and it was his job to suggest better plots to get there. Hypnosis is manipulation with integrity, I s'pose.
Integrity and tools. If you only know how to count from 10-0 you're going to have very few success stories, and most people only know how to count from 10-0 and walk away thinking "this doesn't work!"
Actually, that's true for painplay AND hypno, huh.
Now that is a delightful turn of phrase! LOL
I think I'm gonna remove the pain slut chapters from my book to make into a pain slut novella but without the choreographed Captain Capon (with powder blue cape) & Vanna White (in leather and rhinestones) crap so many 'doms' and 'subs' love.
You mean....you would go for realism instead?
Some people are relational about pain and do it for Daddy or whatever, and some people are in love with pain gratia pain, in which case the person dealing it out is completely unimportant. I think they experience the sensation differently than the majority of people, probably also looking for fire ant hills, with a touch more exhibitionist wiring. I've worked on people like this, and I've always been done before they are. People who would die smiling if you beat the life out of them, so you need to be done before they are. Contusions and bleeding are a blissful high, not a test to be passed with grit and determination. Most people are taking another for me, need the emotional link, the buy-in, more than just more pain. A pain slut isn't listening and doesn't care, as long as Madame Pain is in da house.
(I'd say only the latter is actually a painslut, the former is just a masochist in a relationship or a submissive submitting to painful stimulus as an act of submission or something else.) The formula is the same and almost anyone can use it - the painslut is the equivalent of the highly suggestible ideal stage hypno subject who drops like a rock, clucks like a chicken, and ready to buy in. Or they're masterful self-hypnotizers. It's also not about you, when you're working one of these people over. It's a cool and slightly unsettling experience, but if you're kinked to reactivity in your partner (I am) it's not something you really go out looking for.
It's the submissive who's the more typical subject, with some defenses up, whose sensations you have to appeal to, whose story you have to know, whose language you have to speak, to make any inroads.
This is how I'd describe myself. It's the submitting, the giving, the letting... For me it is about him and pleasing him, not my desiring pain for the sake of pain. This is probably not a helpful response for the OP, though.
I crave the sensory input-ness of pain, I crave being able to get on top of it and letting it take me under. I need the way it cleanses me when stress overwhelms me. Orgasms from pain-play are the brightest in the universe for me.
And, for me, the personal connection with the person giving me the pain is essential. I've tried playing in clubs, just to get off for a temporary fix. It's happened, occasionally, but it's a pale substitute. That was a harsh lesson to learn, at the time.