You're missing Peter Pan

[pointless]

I missed Peter Pan. Was it any good? Christopher Walken has become a parody of himself.

welcome to twenty years ago.

 

[Libsam]

I have read the original of the Little Mermaid and the Snow Queen. If Hans Christian Andersen were alive to see what became of his stories, he'd be rolling around in his grave.

Every time I get something in my eye, I think about the Snow Queen story.

 

[Kitty]

I am the worst person in the world when it comes to pegging down a person's race. I just sort of assumed he was white.

I've always thought there was a bit of a resemblance between him and Kirk Hammett, the guitar player from Metallica. Hammett's mother was Filipino so I'm going to go with that.

Now off to google again and... No. His mother was Cherokee apparently. Again, I'm really bad at this.

No. There's no Indian. There's a distant black slave and everyone else is white!!!!

 

[Kitty]

Everyone's gonna say white. He's from fucking Owensborough. Whitey McWhitestown. You said everyone says the same thing. So you knew whoever answered was gonna tell you he was a white dude from a redneck culture. Moving to Florida doesn't make you less white. He even looks like a redneck. The bitch goes to interviews in a wifebeater.

Fuck you, Idk what everyone's gonna say. That's why I'm asking. Last time I checked people thought he was Cherokee because I've been hearing for YEARS that he was. It DID NOT START during Lone Ranger that he claimed this. You just want a slot to slide into to act like you know everything. No one gives a shit about your tribe.

ANYWAY, he claimed ancestry years ago on Inside the Actor's Studio sooo http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/h.gif

 

[Kitty]

my great-grandmother … was … had a lot of Cherokee blood.

FROM 2002.

GOOD NIGHT CANDI

 

[RobDownSouth]

I missed Peter Pan. Was it any good? Christopher Walken has become a parody of himself.

Best comment I read about Walken last night:

"Is anyone besides Natalie Wood slightly uneasy with the idea of Christopher Walken threatening to throw people off a ship?"

 

[DooleyDarter]

Best comment I read about Walken last night:

"Is anyone besides Natalie Wood slightly uneasy with the idea of Christopher Walken threatening to throw people off a ship?"

I heard Natalie Wood never liked to shower, she preferred to wash up on the beach.

 

[CandiCame]

my great-grandmother … was … had a lot of Cherokee blood.

FROM 2002.

GOOD NIGHT CANDI

Saying "Meh, I might maybe on my mom's side" is in no way the same as claiming ancestory like he did to avoid protestors. This is what I'm talking about with reading comprehension. It doesn't mean that you're stupid the way that you're taking it. Just that it's something that you could work on.

 

[CandiCame]

welcome to twenty years ago.

Was there a time Walkin was a serious actor? I knew he was a dancer but I've only ever seen him in roles like, "Smart Redneck from Armageddon" and "Why the Fuck Are You in Spy Kids?"

 

[Kitty]

Saying "Meh, I might maybe on my mom's side" is in no way the same as claiming ancestory like he did to avoid protestors. This is what I'm talking about with reading comprehension. It doesn't mean that you're stupid the way that you're taking it. Just that it's something that you could work on.

lol whatever dude. Play semantics but your whole post was about

him saying he was Cherokee for Lone Ranger.

That is false.

He said he was Cherokee over 10 years ago and over 10 years before Lone Ranger came out http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/hmmm.gif. Sooo that was false.

Now this "Syndrome" is just fucking stupid but ok. I don't care what you call (or whether it exists or not) you provided links. Aha. I provided links. And he said he was Cherokee before Lone Ranger came out. Way before.

 

[CandiCame]

lol whatever dude. Play semantics but your whole post was about

him saying he was Cherokee for Lone Ranger.

That is false.

He said he was Cherokee over 10 years ago and over 10 years before Lone Ranger came out http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/hmmm.gif. Sooo that was false.

Now this "Syndrome" is just fucking stupid but ok. I don't care what you call (or whether it exists or not) you provided links. Aha. I provided links. And he said he was Cherokee before Lone Ranger came out. Way before.

No, he didn't, Kitty. I'm not sure why you think he did, but claiming distant ancestry is not the same as claiming ethnicity or current tribal status. And you know that. You're not stupid. Stop pretending to be. I don't understand why people do that. Do they think it's cute? Or that it will make people feel sorry for them? It doesn't. It's just sad. And I say that with empathy. I am not making fun of you. This act doesn't benefit you.

 

[Kitty]

No, he didn't, Kitty. I'm not sure why you think he did, but claiming distant ancestry is not the same as claiming ethnicity or current tribal status. And you know that. You're not stupid. Stop pretending to be. I don't understand why people do that. Do they think it's cute? Or that it will make people feel sorry for them? It doesn't. It's just sad. And I say that with empathy. I am not making fun of you. This act doesn't benefit you.

*scratches head* He mentioned he has Cherokee ancestry. Enough. What the fuck're you doing, seriously? And I stopped reading at "distant ancestry."

You're acting like he never claimed or mentioned Cherokee at all until Lone Ranger. That is FALSE.

" JL: I won't pursue it. You have an Indian head. What does that celebrate?

JD: That's a … for me, it was the first tattoo I got when I was 17, and I got it in honor of my grandfather … to remember my grandfather.

JL: The Cherokee heritage.

JD: Yeah.

JL: Terrific. On your left arm there's a heart. Whose name is in it? "


and then

"JD: Yeah, apparently, yeah. My family comes from Kentucky. They've been there for many … you know … many, many generations. And my grandma … my great-grandmother … was … had a lot of Cherokee blood."

So stop.

 

[pointless]

Was there a time Walkin was a serious actor? I knew he was a dancer but I've only ever seen him in roles like, "Smart Redneck from Armageddon" and "Why the Fuck Are You in Spy Kids?"

he was good in the deer hunter.

and he's still good at being silly. that's kinda his quirkiness and obvious collapse into self parody is so forgivable. the shit he's done on snl is some of the best stuff they've done. but maybe i'm biased because that was my first exposure to the weirdo.

 

[RjThoughts]

I've not seen any versions of Peter Pan since 1978, when I played Smee in our Catholic school 8th grade production, and I won't, since I read the book AFTER we put it on. DAMN fucky creepy.

Most of the Disney changed fairy tales were originally dark. The Brothers Grimm tales and Hans Christian Anderson ones have been overly sanitized.

 

[CandiCame]

*scratches head* He mentioned he has Cherokee ancestry. Enough. What the fuck're you doing, seriously? And I stopped reading at "distant ancestry."

You're acting like he never claimed or mentioned Cherokee at all until Lone Ranger. That is FALSE.

" JL: I won't pursue it. You have an Indian head. What does that celebrate?

JD: That's a … for me, it was the first tattoo I got when I was 17, and I got it in honor of my grandfather … to remember my grandfather.

JL: The Cherokee heritage.

JD: Yeah.

JL: Terrific. On your left arm there's a heart. Whose name is in it? "


and then

"JD: Yeah, apparently, yeah. My family comes from Kentucky. They've been there for many … you know … many, many generations. And my grandma … my great-grandmother … was … had a lot of Cherokee blood."

So stop.

Right. See what I mean about reading? I'm not sure how to make it more obvious for you... I'm really at a loss. This is one of those times I'd have to meet with parents. I don't think you're just being argumentative, I think that you really, truly don't know the difference between claiming distant ancestry and claiming ethnicity. And it's such a basic to concept to me that I don't know another way to explain it. He spelled it out pretty clearly himself. It's difficult to make it more obvious than Depp himself made it.

 

[CandiCame]

he was good in the deer hunter.

and he's still good at being silly. that's kinda his quirkiness and obvious collapse into self parody is so forgivable. the shit he's done on snl is some of the best stuff they've done. but maybe i'm biased because that was my first exposure to the weirdo.

Omg he was awesome on SNL, back in the day.

 

[Kitty]

Right. See what I mean about reading? I'm not sure how to make it more obvious for you... I'm really at a loss. This is one of those times I'd have to meet with parents. I don't think you're just being argumentative, I think that you really, truly don't know the difference between claiming distant ancestry and claiming ethnicity. And it's such a basic to concept to me that I don't know another way to explain it. He spelled it out pretty clearly himself. It's difficult to make it more obvious than Depp himself made it.

What a waste of my eyesight reading this.
You want to separate claiming this and that and playing with words
because you clearly lied about why he claimed his bloodline had anything to do with Cherokee. You can flip it how you want, it's just pathetic. But if it makes you feel big bro!

 

[pointless]

also, the smart redneck in armageddon was steve buscemi.

 

[RjThoughts]

Right. See what I mean about reading? I'm not sure how to make it more obvious for you... I'm really at a loss. This is one of those times I'd have to meet with parents. I don't think you're just being argumentative, I think that you really, truly don't know the difference between claiming distant ancestry and claiming ethnicity. And it's such a basic to concept to me that I don't know another way to explain it. He spelled it out pretty clearly himself. It's difficult to make it more obvious than Depp himself made it.

If his grandfather was full, that would make him 1/4, but he said, "a lot," so that makes him what, 1/8th at the most, probably 1/16th.

The role should have gone to a Native American actor - one with more than half Native blood - but from what Native reporters had written, Depp did an okay job honoring.

 

[CandiCame]

What a waste of my eyesight reading this.
You want to separate claiming this and that and playing with words
because you clearly lied about why he claimed his bloodline had anything to do with Cherokee. You can flip it how you want, it's just pathetic. But if it makes you feel big bro!

Seriously. Will someone else try to explain this to her? I can't think of any way to make it any more obvious.

 

[Kitty]

Seriously. Will someone else try to explain this to her? I can't think of any way to make it any more obvious.

Is this about Peter Pan bro?

 

[CandiCame]

If his grandfather was full, that would make him 1/4, but he said, "a lot," so that makes him what, 1/8th at the most, probably 1/16th.

The role should have gone to a Native American actor - one with more than half Native blood - but from what Native reporters had written, Depp did an okay job honoring.

His grandpa wasn't tho. He never had tribal status. And you might notice, if you read the links I provided, how quickly those reviews changed after Disney started offering first nations organizations money.

 

[RjThoughts]

His grandpa wasn't tho. He never had tribal status. And you might notice, if you read the links I provided, how quickly those reviews changed after Disney started offering first nations organizations money.

Some did, some didn't change. From what I've read, Armie Hammer, the guy that played the titular role, was more Native than Depp.

 

[CandiCame]

Some did, some didn't change. From what I've read, Armie Hammer, the guy that played the titular role, was more Native than Depp.

I had actually never watched the original. I never watched this one either. I had just never known that anyone had been taken in by Depp's folksy racism. That claiming Cherokee blood when you have no right is so prevalent that there's a sociological name for it, so it never occurred to me that people wouldn't know that. I did read like an issue and a half of the new comic because it came out while I was working at a comic shop and it was alright in that folksy 'fake past' way in the same way I like the 'fake future' stuff.

 

[CandiCame]

also, the smart redneck in armageddon was steve buscemi.

Oh shit! You're right! I keep doing that. Maybe it's a tumor.