"You're a Jerk."

[Guest]

Ok, Tom Cruise just earned respect points in my book. No, not because he's marrying a beautiful woman half his age. Because he handled a prankster in a very cool manner.

Squirt gun bandit foiled.

Seeing the video of Cruise stopping the guy and calmly telling him he's a jerk made my day.

But it's especially nice to know the stars have their trolls to deal with too.

 

[R. Richard]

Ok, Tom Cruise just earned respect points in my book. No, not because he's marrying a beautiful woman half his age. Because he handled a prankster in a very cool manner.

Seeing the video of Cruise stopping the guy and calmly telling him he's a jerk made my day.

But it's especially nice to know the stars have their trolls to deal with too.

I agree that Tom Cruise handled the situation well. However, suppose it had been acid in the squirt gun?

 

[Guest]

I agree that Tom Cruise handled the situation well. However, suppose it had been acid in the squirt gun?

Then it would have been an entirely different story.

 

[McKenna]

<snip>But it's especially nice to know the stars have their trolls to deal with too.

Boy no kidding! And far worse trolls on a much more daily basis!


R.Richard - If it were acid, wow. I'd hate to think of the consequences. That'd just be sick and wrong. Definitely criminal.

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Okay, he did handle it well.
but I'm still pissed off at him for saying women with postpartum depression should take vitamins and stay off anti-depressants.
Tom, the next time you give birth, please let me know how it works out.

 

[English Lady]

I hate those stoopid prank shows, I just do not have a clue why anyone watches them and finds them funny.

I am quite a fan of Tom Cruise anyways and Scarlett, everyone has an off day *chuckles* and we all hold beliefs that sound ridiculous to other folks too


I'd have taken the damn pistol and squirted the idiot with whatever water was left, then hit him over the head with it.

I'm feeling particularly violent today *LOL*

 

[Hulder]

Not a big fan myself, but he handled that very well.

 

[TheEarl]

I hate those stoopid prank shows, I just do not have a clue why anyone watches them and finds them funny.

I am quite a fan of Tom Cruise anyways and Scarlett, everyone has an off day *chuckles* and we all hold beliefs that sound ridiculous to other folks too


I'd have taken the damn pistol and squirted the idiot with whatever water was left, then hit him over the head with it.

I'm feeling particularly violent today *LOL*

Ah, the John Prescott approach.

For those not familiar, the Labour deputy Prime Minister is a man caleld John Prescott, who will always have my respect for something that happened during the 2001 election. He was out campaigning at some public event when some ned in the crowd threw an egg at him. The ned then stood there and pointed and laughed, completely unprepared for the possibility that Prescott would react like a normal person and not a politician.

Prescott's left hook broke the ned's nose and probably taught him a lesson about who not to throw eggs at.

The Earl

 

[BlackShanglan]

Ah, the John Prescott approach.

For those not familiar, the Labour deputy Prime Minister is a man caleld John Prescott, who will always have my respect for something that happened during the 2001 election. He was out campaigning at some public event when some ned in the crowd threw an egg at him. The ned then stood there and pointed and laughed, completely unprepared for the possibility that Prescott would react like a normal person and not a politician.

Prescott's left hook broke the ned's nose and probably taught him a lesson about who not to throw eggs at.

The Earl

Ha! I never heard this one. It's most amusing. Right up there with one of football's finest learning not to call a random stranger a "muppet" in front of his girlfriend

EL, I've never imagined you the violent sort. There, there. Shall I come make you some guaranteed peace-making buns? I've done two batches in the past week, sticky and Belgian, and both were inhaled by the SO and I in a shamefully short time.

Scarlett, amen on actors and non-affected persons dispensing medical advice. I recall my sister-in-law holding forth on the effects (or non-effects) of postpartum depression a year or more ago. I'm too much of a gentlehorse to ask if her views might now have changed (first baby delivered a month ago). I really rather like her, but it riles me when people dismiss the suffering of others because they haven't experienced it themselves. Personally, I learned that lesson through my back, and I try to thank God for showing me the error of my cocky, young-person, never-felt-lower-back-pain ways. At least, that's the best face I can put on it when I hover on the can walk/can't walk boderline.

Shanglan

 

[cloudy]

Personally, I learned that lesson through my back, and I try to thank God for showing me the error of my cocky, young-person, never-felt-lower-back-pain ways. At least, that's the best face I can put on it when I hover on the can walk/can't walk boderline.

Shanglan

*struggling not to make horrible jokes about bad conformation and breeding*



sometimes I know way too much about horses

 

[BlackShanglan]

*struggling not to make horrible jokes about bad conformation and breeding*



sometimes I know way too much about horses

*laugh* Tell you what, I will make one for you - although it's about dogs rather than horses. I got it from the email list for my dog breed. It's a sort of "doggy people" joke about the difficulties of choosing priorities when breeding dogs.

Once upon a time, three women are travelling up through the high passes of the Swiss Alps on their way to a dog show for Saint Bernards. They all have their prize dogs with them. On the way, there is an avalanche and their car is half buried. They stare at the white all around them and wonder what to do.

"Don't worry!" says the first. "My dogs are bred for conformation. They are the perfect epitome of the Saint Bernard. My dog will save us!"

She lets her dog out of the car. The dog bounds eagerly through the snow, then collapses a hundred yards out with a bad hip.

"Ah!" says the second breeder. "Hip dysplasia! See, I have always been right. I breed for health first and not for conformation. MY dog will save us." She lets her dog loose and away it bounds across the snow. But with every bound it gets slower, because its hair is (conformationally speaking) rather too long between its toes and on its chest, and it accumulates snow with every bound. Eventually the dog is a big snow-ball and it rolls to a halt right next to the first dog.

"Now is the moment," says the last breeder with a superior smile. "My dog is bred for health AND conformation!" She lets her dog loose, and it leaps heroically over the snow in a display of grace and athleticism that it's beautiful to see. Away it goes like the wind! Off to the ranger station!

And there it kills and eats the ranger, because she forgot to breed for temperament.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Okay, he did handle it well.
but I'm still pissed off at him for saying women with postpartum depression should take vitamins and stay off anti-depressants.
Tom, the next time you give birth, please let me know how it works out.

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Uh-oh, not the "walk a mile in my shoes" routine. I hear what you're saying, scarlett, about him making a statement that he might not know everything about, or ever experience, but I can tell you that smoking crack is a bad habit to have, and I've never touched the stuff. I also like to point out that serial killers, child molesters, and rapists are sick fucks; I'm not about to rape, molest, or go on a killing spree so someone else feels more comfortable with me speaking about them in a negative way. Tom has his own opinion, male or not, and he has the right to speak it, even if it made no sense whatsoever he would have the right. And that can't be impeded upon.

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Sorry, but my ex-girlfriend used to drive me up the wall with that routine. No matter what she did, what lie she told for whatever stupid reason, it was alwyas, "Don't judge until you've walked..."

I don't even hear the words to that saying any more. The phrase "I have no other excuse so I'll hide behind this bullshit saying" floats through my head as people say it.

Sorry about that, venting,

Q_C

 

[OhMissScarlett]

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Uh-oh, not the "walk a mile in my shoes" routine. I hear what you're saying, scarlett, about him making a statement that he might not know everything about, or ever experience, but I can tell you that smoking crack is a bad habit to have, and I've never touched the stuff. I also like to point out that serial killers, child molesters, and rapists are sick fucks; I'm not about to rape, molest, or go on a killing spree so someone else feels more comfortable with me speaking about them in a negative way. Tom has his own opinion, male or not, and he has the right to speak it, even if it made no sense whatsoever he would have the right. And that can't be impeded upon.

[/RANT]

Sorry, but my ex-girlfriend used to drive me up the wall with that routine. No matter what she did, what lie she told for whatever stupid reason, it was alwyas, "Don't judge until you've walked..."

I don't even hear the words to that saying any more. The phrase "I have no other excuse so I'll hide behind this bullshit saying" floats through my head as people say it.

Sorry about that, venting,

Q_C

QC, this is not entirely directed at you, I realize I didn't exactly state my case and was rather flippant about the subject. I am sarcastic by nature. My point is, Cruise has no fucking business at all dispensing medical advice or dismissing the effects of postpartum depression to an audience of thousands. It is dangerous and callous to suggest that women suffering from depression or psychosis go off their medication or seek "alternative therapy with vitamins", simply because he doesn't happen to believe in psychotherapy as a science.

For nine months after my son was born, I felt like driving my car into a river or slitting my wrists. People told me it was all in my head and that I had the baby blues. People even suggested anti-depressants weren't healthy and that I seek alternative treatment. So, I think I know what I'm talking about when I say that a sterile, middle aged man has no business advising me on what to do with my body and my brain. What he said was dangerous and irresponsible. I can only hope no one was listening to that bullshit. Does he have the right to say it? Of course. I only wish I had the right to put my foot up his ass.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

QC, this is not entirely directed at you, I realize I didn't exactly state my case and was rather flippant about the subject. I am sarcastic by nature. My point is, Cruise has no fucking business at all dispensing medical advice or dismissing the effects of postpartum depression to an audience of thousands. It is dangerous and callous to suggest that women suffering from depression or psychosis go off their medication or seek "alternative therapy with vitamins", simply because he doesn't happen to believe in psychotherapy as a science.

For nine months after my son was born, I felt like driving my car into a river or slitting my wrists. People told me it was all in my head and that I had the baby blues. People even suggested anti-depressants weren't healthy and that I seek alternative treatment. So, I think I know what I'm talking about when I say that a sterile, middle aged man has no business advising me on what to do with my body and my brain. What he said was dangerous and irresponsible. I can only hope no one was listening to that bullshit. Does he have the right to say it? Of course. I only wish I had the right to put my foot up his ass.

Well, I understand that you've had personal experiences that gave you your viewpoint (in fact, I guessed that before you even posted this) but like you said (well, we both said) he has the right to speak.

I'm not defending his position, nor am I attacking his or yours. Merely stating that the phrase that your post reminded me of is a cowardly one, generally used, in my experience, by people who don't want to answer for their choices. It really had nothing to do with the topic you and Cruise disagree on (although I do feel the need to point out that your case and those of others may not be similar, and that sometimes, it might be more beneficial to a woman to use methods that aren't as strong).

Just a rant that needed to be done on my part.

Q_C

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Well, I understand that you've had personal experiences that gave you your viewpoint (in fact, I guessed that before you even posted this) but like you said (well, we both said) he has the right to speak.

I'm not defending his position, nor am I attacking his or yours. Merely stating that the phrase that your post reminded me of is a cowardly one, generally used, in my experience, by people who don't want to answer for their choices. It really had nothing to do with the topic you and Cruise disagree on (although I do feel the need to point out that your case and those of others may not be similar, and that sometimes, it might be more beneficial to a woman to use methods that aren't as strong).

Just a rant that needed to be done on my part.

Q_C

Same here, just ranting. The subject has been pissing me off for weeks. It wouldn't be so bad if the disease wasn't already so commonly downplayed or ignored altogether in our society. It's a serious disease with lasting effects, obviously, you can tell from my earlier rant.
-Scarlett, still psycho after all these years

 

[BlackShanglan]

Actually, I'll shove a hoof in here. We do have a right to free speech, but that is curtailed both by the law in specific cases and by common sense in the more general practice. The law specifically forbids the administration of medical advice by untrained people; common sense would dictate a person not administer medical advice to masses of people he'd never met suffering a condition with which he is completely unfamiliar. It's right up there with Sylvia Browne presuming to charge people for the privilege of her psychically prescribing "albumen" for their partial paralysis on the basis of having talked to them on the phone for ten minutes.

We have a right to free speech, but it has legal limits and it has common sense limits. We ought to know when not to impose groundless theories on people who may need serious medical help. That really strains the reasonable boundaries of free speech, and it leads to people introducing further legislation to curtail free speech in order to stop untrained idiots from trying to play doctor.

 

[Guest]

I was impressed with his handling of the idiot. Well done.

He does not have the right, however, to dispense medical information without a degree. He is a "star" hence a role model, and he should be damn careful that some poor soul just may take his words completely to heart merely because she loved him in Mission Impossible. And that fan may not seek the help she may so desperately need.

No, he cannot control what people do, of course. But in his position he should be careful. Why do movie stars believe they have all the political or financial or medical answers? That is insane!

My two cents.

 

[Guest]

I agree that Tom Cruise handled the situation well. However, suppose it had been acid in the squirt gun?

____

Scary ... I had a similar thought when I saw the video clip and this "white" stream of liquid directed to TC's face. Who the fuck knows what can be squirted at someone?

 

[carsonshepherd]

Well, I understand that you've had personal experiences that gave you your viewpoint (in fact, I guessed that before you even posted this) but like you said (well, we both said) he has the right to speak.

I'm not defending his position, nor am I attacking his or yours. Merely stating that the phrase that your post reminded me of is a cowardly one, generally used, in my experience, by people who don't want to answer for their choices. It really had nothing to do with the topic you and Cruise disagree on (although I do feel the need to point out that your case and those of others may not be similar, and that sometimes, it might be more beneficial to a woman to use methods that aren't as strong).

Just a rant that needed to be done on my part.

Q_C

A rant that needs to be done on my part: I suggest you not quote people's posts when it's not directed at them. And on the topic of something you know nothing about, it might be a good idea to keep your rants to yourself.

 

[English Lady]

EL, I've never imagined you the violent sort. There, there. Shall I come make you some guaranteed peace-making buns? I've done two batches in the past week, sticky and Belgian, and both were inhaled by the SO and I in a shamefully short time.



Shanglan

mmmmmm buns!!!

I'm not usually violent, just you know, at certain times of the month I get a bit growly

 

[BlackShanglan]

mmmmmm buns!!!

I'm not usually violent, just you know, at certain times of the month I get a bit growly

Duly noted. At those times, I shall speak softly and approach with a plate of buns held to the forward.

Shanglan

 

[SummerMorning]

I agree that Tom Cruise handled the situation well. However, suppose it had been acid in the squirt gun?

That's a bit paranoid, isn't it?

 

[English Lady]

Duly noted. At those times, I shall speak softly and approach with a plate of buns held to the forward.

Shanglan

Aww I love you horsey

 

[LadyJeanne]

EL, I've never imagined you the violent sort. There, there. Shall I come make you some guaranteed peace-making buns? I've done two batches in the past week, sticky and Belgian, and both were inhaled by the SO and I in a shamefully short time.

I first read that as 'sticky and Belegon'...

 

[Guest]

I first read that as 'sticky and Belegon'...

Laughing -

Where is he? He'll love it!