Your advice: Okay, here's what happened...

Quiet_Cool

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So I know this girl, I work with her, and she's about ten years older than I am. We've been hanging out on and off for a while now, about eight months. SHe's involved with this guy, who she's been with for about six or seven years. The guy has his problems, in fact, both do (as everybody does, no judgment intended), and she tells me, and a mutual friend on repeated occasions that she wants to leave him, that she isn't happy and won't be until they're apart.
Recently, she begins to do things that she insists and I believed were steps to separate herself from him. A long-term relationship leaves loose ends, so I understand that it's not as simple as saying "I don't want to be together any more." Lately, say over the past three or four weeks, we started talking more often, on the phone (she got my number from the mutual friend) and in the break room at work. She calls me when she's drunk on the weekends, and insists I come over. SHe begins talking about her problems while we're on the phone, and I can't say no to a friend, but when I get there, she behaves differently, which makes sense given that the two of us aren't alone. She's too touchy, she's too advancing, and I chock it up to she's had too much to drink.
Finally, she calls me and insists she wants out of the house, to have fun without the boyfriend around, and I agree to go, trying to help out. WHile we're out, we start drinking and things pretty much click, though I know that the boyfriend isn't in the Know that we're together this night, and I know her intentions. I go along with it, basically trying it on to see if it fits. When we get back to her place, the boyfriend is asleep on the couch, and she wakes him. The three of us talk, her making up lies to cover why I was there and where we've been and what happened. him trustingly listening. Things felt very wrong then, and i decided I wasn't interested. The two go to bed. I sleep on her couch, not a new thing.
That's last weekend. Last night, she has a party, his birthday party actually, and i haven't told her yet. We haven't spoken all week, as I was on vacation. She even has the mutual friend call to invite me. (The mutual friend is actually why I go, given that we haven't seen each other in almost four months, maybe longer.) I figure, she's come to the same conclusion as I did, but when i get there, she shows other intentions. I can't contradict her in front of everyone, especially not with him there. No open remarks are going to get across. I make attempts to subtly deny her advances, w/o being rude, knowing I eventually have to tell her. But in this case, there isn't really a good time, so I wait. Eventually, the mutual friend and I are alone, and she asks me about what's been going on, saying that the girl already told her about last weekend. I tell her I like the girl, but that I want to be friends. i'm plain and direct. "I don't like her like that," is my wording, and mutual friend gets the point.
The two talk about what I said, then, while the party continues inside, the girl takes me outside to talk. I reiterate; I confess that I shouldn't have led her on. She agrees that I shouldn't have, but makes no mention of anything she's done. The lies are apparently my fault to her. I ask her if we're still friends and she agrees that we are, then begins to tellme about her kids and her mother, making the conversatin about something it's not about, a pattern I've noticed in her behavior before.
We go back inside, and things seem alright, but she begins being a little cold toward me, first asking me if I want to eat, which I agree to do out of courtesy, as she's made it clear in the past that she becomes offended when people don't eat at her parties, then making plates for the other guests and requesting I make my own (no big deal, but, the effort to offend was there, i assure you), then giving me the cold shoulder when a minor conversation led to me joking around with the mutual friend.
So she disappears for a few minutes, and when she returns, the door is apparently jammed. After a few others failed to open it, I tried to lend a helping hand and pulled it open. She's outside, pointing at me and insisting, aggressively, that she "don't want you, I want" the boyfriend. I tell the boyfriend she's requesting him, and he goes outside to talk with her. naturally, a few minutes later, he's trying to bust in, angry, and she's holding him back. They're physically fighting now, her using headlocks and shoving and yelling for him to "stop it!" and him just trying to get past her, not wanting to hurt her, but wanting inside. Naturally, my thoughts are that she told him and he wants to fight. I was disgusted by this point, and I left, not afraid, but not wanting to fight.
Now, I have to wonder, what was the point of all of this? And how much of this was my fault?
Looking back, I can't say there was anything admirable about my behavior, but how much of the negativity is my fault, not just that which already happened, but that which will almost definitely happen this upcoming week when i have to deal with her at work?
Can anyone give me a clue here?
 
Hanns_Schmidt said:
I hope she leaves this guy for you.

I hope she runs into your arms

I hope she gets run over as she's running across the road over to you

We might be thinking along the same lines with that last part... You might know that if you read the damn post...

Dude, are you like, a professional troll, registered and everything?
 
I didn't get why the boyfriend got mad and wanted to fight with you.

I'd stay far far away.

Why would you want to even stay friends with this person?
 
Tough one.

Getting involved with her may not have been very wiseb ut from what I can tell it was in its infancy. But shes obviously involved in a somehwat disfunctional relationship so some warning signs must have been evident.

But shit happens. Nothing wrong witha friendship that has other factors at this point, it wasnt taken far. You were smart to nip it in the bud when you did as this was going ina dangerous direction.

Her reaction to you wisely ending things shows that she probably has very little idea what she wants, but is not willing to give up anything either.

I'm sorry to say that your friendship with her is over.

Now, here is the sticky part... you work with her. This will probably be unpleasant but will have to be dealt with. All you can do is talk to her and explain that that phase of thigns is over and that you would like to have a workable agreemnt to be courteous at work, but not to let new things develop.

Good luck.
 
CuffedKitty said:
I didn't get why the boyfriend got mad and wanted to fight with you.

I'd stay far far away.

Why would you want to even stay friends with this person?

Well, as far as why he wanted to fight with me, I don't know, but if i told you the rest of his problems, you'd get a better understanding of why things might be a bit constrewed in his view of reality and whatnot, but remember too that she told him whatever she told him outside, without anyone else present. When i talked to the mutual friend, who also seemed to give me the cold shoulder, about a half-hour later, they were still fighting, and she said she was only "pretty sure" that it was about that. I guess what I'm saying is: I don't know what she said, whether or not she told him the truth...

As for being friends, mostly, I want to make sure the mutual friend and I are on the ups. As for this girl, friends or not, I have to deal with her at work. I dug a big hole, using a small shovel, i guess you could say. Only I think I'm gonna get credit for way too much of the work...
 
Hanns_Schmidt said:
I own Lit

Mentally

Thats all you need to know

Didn't know you carried ownership papers..thought those paper were proof you've had your shots...
 
Thanx for responding, modest mouse, I agree that it wasn't wise...alcohol had more to do with my behavior than i'd like to admit, but there's no excusing my mistake.
 
Well, you didnt do anything horrible. I wasnt trying to emphasize any mistakes you made. Best thing is that you saw the situation getting worse and backed away. At this point my primary concern would be establishing that you both can be cool with each other at work.
 
Quiet_Cool said:
Well, as far as why he wanted to fight with me, I don't know, but if i told you the rest of his problems, you'd get a better understanding of why things might be a bit constrewed in his view of reality and whatnot, but remember too that she told him whatever she told him outside, without anyone else present. When i talked to the mutual friend, who also seemed to give me the cold shoulder, about a half-hour later, they were still fighting, and she said she was only "pretty sure" that it was about that. I guess what I'm saying is: I don't know what she said, whether or not she told him the truth...

As for being friends, mostly, I want to make sure the mutual friend and I are on the ups. As for this girl, friends or not, I have to deal with her at work. I dug a big hole, using a small shovel, i guess you could say. Only I think I'm gonna get credit for way too much of the work...

How close do you work with this person? Do you have to deal with her directly?

I'd tell the mutual friend everything that happened. The other one is probably making you out to be the bad guy in all this and taking no blame on herself.
 
CuffedKitty said:
How close do you work with this person? Do you have to deal with her directly?

I'd tell the mutual friend everything that happened. The other one is probably making you out to be the bad guy in all this and taking no blame on herself.

Well, I don't have to work with her directly, nor do I even have to talk to her, but if she approaches me, I can't really avoid her. And it's a warehouse, meaning what she says will travel at lightspeed, and no one listens to a second statement, regardless of whether or not it's true. We also deal with some of the same people in other ways. they work there, but the're more mutual friends. I'm more concerned at this point that she'll give me a bad rep with either these people, or cause an argument or other problems that will putme in a bad light in the perspectives of my bosses.
 
Cause I saw you in the xmen rp and cause the superbowl is boring as hell. I will offer advice.

Reading now.
 
Quiet_Cool said:
Well, I don't have to work with her directly, nor do I even have to talk to her, but if she approaches me, I can't really avoid her. And it's a warehouse, meaning what she says will travel at lightspeed, and no one listens to a second statement, regardless of whether or not it's true. We also deal with some of the same people in other ways. they work there, but the're more mutual friends. I'm more concerned at this point that she'll give me a bad rep with either these people, or cause an argument or other problems that will putme in a bad light in the perspectives of my bosses.

There aren't any easy answers for this.

If you back off from the situation, even if you do it nicely, she'll probably get pissed and start telling stories and turning people against you, as she did at the party.

She's obviously not a very stable person.

You could get your side of things out before she does and then no one would believe her.

You could start looking for a new job and get completely away from the situation.

If she starts arguments at work you might consider going to the HR or Personnel department and filing a complaint for harassment. Most companies are very strict nowadays on that stuff.
 
Ouch.

QC, she was using you as a instrument of jealousy. You're not the first man this has happened to. Her waking up the beau and taking you to her place while he was there was a sign. She obviously wasn't interested in discretion and while I don't want to say she doesn't have any feelings toward you I don't think she's interested in a relationship with you apart from her beau.

Even if she is. She seems more interested in herself than anything else. Friends think about how their actions will affect their friends. The way she acted around her beau with you in the room and the way she likely told her beau about the relationship shows that she's out to hurt her beau and she doesn't mind hurting you to do it.


Drop her ass.
 
Shaq said:
Ouch.

QC, she was using you as a instrument of jealousy. You're not the first man this has happened to. Her waking up the beau and taking you to her place while he was there was a sign. She obviously wasn't interested in discretion and while I don't want to say she doesn't have any feelings toward you I don't think she's interested in a relationship with you apart from her beau.

Even if she is. She seems more interested in herself than anything else. Friends think about how their actions will affect their friends. The way she acted around her beau with you in the room and the way she likely told her beau about the relationship shows that she's out to hurt her beau and she doesn't mind hurting you to do it.


Drop her ass.

Consider her ass dropped...;)

Edited to add: We could use another X-Men rp, don't y think?
 
Quiet_Cool said:
Consider her ass dropped...;)

Edited to add: We could use another X-Men rp, don't y think?


Very much so. School has sidetracked me from returning to rping. Maybe this summer I'll have the time again.

The Xavier Academy kick ass:)
 
CuffedKitty said:
There aren't any easy answers for this.

If you back off from the situation, even if you do it nicely, she'll probably get pissed and start telling stories and turning people against you, as she did at the party.

She's obviously not a very stable person.

You could get your side of things out before she does and then no one would believe her.

You could start looking for a new job and get completely away from the situation.

If she starts arguments at work you might consider going to the HR or Personnel department and filing a complaint for harassment. Most companies are very strict nowadays on that stuff.

I won't instigate the rumors, though I understand your point there, that you didn't mean instigating anything. That's how it will be taken though. I don't have a good rep. at work to begin with, given a past relationship I had with a temporary co-worker (that's how I know that no one will listen to second statement). I've revived my rep witha rare few, and these are the ones I'm concerned about, but all in all, I'm not well respected there.
As for changing jobs, I can't do that. I make decent money, not good money, but decent enough not to give it up for a job that might not pay as well, and probably won't have stability, until the economy gets better, that is...
As for the company, no help there. I would report directly to one of my two supervisors before I go anywhere else, otherwise my continued employment would be one affected by thier spite. One of them was directly involved in the misconceptions that have already graced my reputation, so I'm pretty much out of luck there too. Truth is, they try to hard to take care of many of the employees. Not favoritism most of the time, though the one i mentioned above has developed a habit of that, they just don't want to fire or discipline when they feel problems can be handled otherwise.
Thank you, Kitty, by the way, for taking the time to consider this dilema. you have been very helpful, as have everyone else, save for Hanns (though he did make me laugh...).
 
Shaq said:
Very much so. School has sidetracked me from returning to rping. Maybe this summer I'll have the time again.

The Xavier Academy kick ass:)

Yeah, the Bastard's itching to play...;)
 
Dude, she is playing major head games and you got caught up in it!

Just be business-like at work and steer clear of her socially. Regardless of what happened the night you went out - it's over and you have made yourself clear to her. Time to move on.

:rose:
 
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