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New Hole in AOL Instant Messenger

By D. IAN HOPPER, AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A security hole in AOL Time Warner's Instant
Messenger program used by millions of people worldwide can let a
hacker take full control of a victim's computer, according to security
researchers and the company.

An AOL spokesman said the problem will be fixed soon, and users
won't have to download anything.

``We have identified the issue and have developed a resolution that
should be deployed in the next day or two,'' AOL's Andrew Weinstein
said. ``To our knowledge, this issue has not affected any users.''

The problem affects the newest versions as well as many earlier
iterations of AOL's Instant Messenger program. Only the Windows
version is at risk - Instant Messenger for Macintosh (news - web sites),
Palm and other platforms are not.

Discovered by a loose team of international researchers called
'w00w00,' the hole is a ``buffer overflow,'' like the problem recently
found in Microsoft's Windows XP (news - web sites).

By sending a stream of junk messages to the program, a hacker can
overwhelm the software and make the victim's computer run any
commands the hacker wants.

``You could do just about anything, (you could) delete files on the
computer or take over the machine,'' w00w00 founder Matt Conover
said.

Conover said w00w00 has over 30 active members from 14 states and
nine countries. Until AOL's fix is released, Conover said, Instant
Messenger users should restrict incoming messages to friends on their
``Buddy List.''

``It will at least keep someone from attacking you at random,'' Conover
said, but it wouldn't help if the attack code is added to a virus that
propagates without the victim's knowledge. AOL said it has not given its
users any advice in the interim.

Conover said the group found the problem several weeks ago, but
didn't contact AOL until after Christmas. The group didn't get any
response from AOL through an e-mail during the holiday week, he said,
so w00w00 released details - and a program that takes advantage of it -
to public security mailing lists less than a week later.

The program released by w00w00 remotely shuts down a person's
Instant Messenger program, but could be modified to do more sinister
things.

That practice is under scrutiny by security professionals. While some
independent researchers argue for a ``full disclosure'' policy and say
software vendors are trying to cover up their mistakes, many companies
say users are better protected if the company has time to react.

Russ Cooper, who moderates a popular security mailing list and works
for security firm TruSecure, said Conover's actions are irresponsible.

``I think it's better to provide details of the exploit and then let other
people write the actual code,'' Cooper said. ``Unfortunately, these are
fundamentally naive people with a very childish view of the world.''

Cooper said he let Conover send the information out through his mailing list, but only did so after
noticing it was released through other channels as well.

Conover said w00w00 set a New Year's deadline for sentimental reasons, because it was the
anniversary of the group's last major security release. He defended the disclosure of the attack
program.

``This is the approach that w00w00 has historically taken to the problem,'' he said. ``For us it means
providing all the information we have available to the security community.''

AOL's Weinstein said the company would have appreciated more warning.

``We'd encourage any software programmer that discovers a vulnerability to bring it to our attention
prior to releasing it,'' Weinstein said.

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On the Net: AOL Instant Messenger: http://www.aim.aol.com

w00w00: http://www.w00w00.org
 
It seems like they found the problem before it was a problem.
Isn't this a good thing?

But then again I didn't read the whole thing. :rolleyes:
 
I have one good reason to use it, and she is too stubborn to use one of the other 3 messengers I have.

Talk some sense into her Chef, Im counting on ya.
 
modest mouse said:
I have one good reason to use it, and she is too stubborn to use one of the other 3 messengers I have.

Talk some sense into her Chef, Im counting on ya.

Nope... I like having her there... just because you lost the ultimatum.

Hmmmm maybe wednesday....
 
I've heard the Same thing about ICQ, Yahoo, and Chat rooms that you find..... But one reason why I don't use AOL that much is the Security, I have an AOL account and I rarely use it for the simple reason, I recieved Porn mail from Address to My Address and I didn't send it... and have found a few others that havve had that prblem as well... some how people can get your AOL password and be you when you are not on... and that Pissed ne off... AIM, I use all the tme tho.... out of all that I have used and tried, I like it best with ICQ next....

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I lost?

Goddamnit! I thought I was merely laying in wait; ready to pounce.

I will simple have to visit her in person and install another messenger against her will.
 
Hey... I already told her you are driving to her for photo's... and I'll kick in fuel money
 
Hackers can access your computer just by you being online.. they don't need AIM, MSN, Yahoo or ICQ to do it..

that's why I run Black Ice Defender at all times..
 
Chef's check is in the mail, my car is warmed up, film in the camera...here I come.

Take heed my friend...install a backup messenger, or i shall appear on your doorstep.
 
Originally posted by Nobody Special
I've heard the Same thing about ICQ, Yahoo, and Chat rooms that you find..... But one reason why I don't use AOL that much is the Security, I have an AOL account and I rarely use it for the simple reason, I recieved Porn mail from Address to My Address and I didn't send it... and have found a few others that havve had that prblem as well... some how people can get your AOL password and be you when you are not on... and that Pissed ne off... AIM, I use all the tme tho.... out of all that I have used and tried, I like it best with ICQ next....

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It sounds like the sender is forging the address to conceal the actual sender. That is quite a bit easier to do than hacking your password unless your password very simple and obvious.
 
I haven't tried AIM. I had ICQ but people were spamming me every 5 minutes. It was sooo annoying.

I have MSN now and there's no problems.

oh, except that it's DOWN half the time!
 
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