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Rob_Royale

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So I've shifted back to night shift recently and as usual my TV watching and writing picks up with so much free time on my nights off.
Recently finished a first season of three series. One that impressed me, one that irritated the hell out of me, and one that I'm on the fence on, when it comes to the writing. Beware, these next paragraphs contain spoilers.

👎 - Monsieur Spade - Netflix
Such an interesting premise. After Sam Spades adventures in San Francisco, he takes a job that lands him in France, where he stays. Sam is played by Clive Owen, whom I've always liked. The writing is, in a word - awful. The plot is disjointed and scattered, and almost feels like the writer just decided halfway through to change the plot entirely. The ending is the most phoned-in piece of crap that I've seen outside of a Dean Koontz novel.

👉 - Interview with a Vampire - Season 1 - Netflix - I'm really on the fence here. It varies from the source material by a fair bit. One might say that they did it to make Louis a black man, because DEI is the term of the day, but it took a lot of writing to make that change work. Changing the original setting from the late 1700's to the early 1900's. I think perhaps they did it to not have to change much more than the wardrobe to show the vampire's moving through time. It focuses heavily on the main characters gay lifestyle, which Anne herself really glossed over in the novels. But what it does correctly is capture Lestat's extreme narcissism and mania, which poisons their little vampiric family. Performances are very good.

👍 - Twilight of the Gods - Season 1 - Netflix - This was a big surprise. For one, it's erotica. Second its animated and third, it's by Zack Snyder. Fourth, it takes some old tropes and puts them on their head. Like the recent Rebel Moon, it's another use of the Seven Samurai schtick. But it's about mortals who want to tear down the walls of Asgard and destroy the gods. The writing, in my opinion, is on point. Very good characters, with interesting backstories and reasons for joining the 'team'. I thoroughly enjoyed it and look forward to a second season.

Please add any TV/movie you want to chat about.
 
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I thought Shogun this year was very impressive. It used English subtitles for Japanese characters in a way that helped drive the character development.
 
I watched the first episode of IwtV, and it's certainly interesting. I may continue watching when I have time, but the telepathy and time-stop seemed a little excessive to me.
 
"Andor". After decades of fairly lighthearted space opera stuff, this series came completely out of the blue. Some of the best television I've seen for years.

"Only Murders In The Building". Surprisingly engaging. I don't really like any of the actors, or their characters, but somehow this series just works for me.
 
👏 Blue 👏 Eye 👏 Samurai
Solid. My daughter sat me down and said, "You have to watch this". And she was right. Particularly Ep5 The Tale of the Ronin and the Bride which was one of the most remarkable pieces of animation I have ever seen
 
As a big fan of both Lord of the Rings and the original Game of Thrones (until the final season, which sucked), I've been hugely disappointed by the writing in The Rings of Power and House of the Dragon. They sucked all the fun out. There's no comic relief. The characters are dull.

I wonder if this is a one-off or if it's a long-term trend.
 
👏 Blue 👏 Eye 👏 Samurai
Was amazing.
As a big fan of both Lord of the Rings and the original Game of Thrones (until the final season, which sucked), I've been hugely disappointed by the writing in The Rings of Power and House of the Dragon. They sucked all the fun out. There's no comic relief. The characters are dull.

I wonder if this is a one-off or if it's a long-term trend.
I'm watching the first season now. It's a dark story.
 
chasing money instead of telling a story.

It's lazy, but I can't help but think that they'd make more money by spritzing it up with some humor. Humor can find a place in a dark story. Game of Thrones was one of the most relentlessly dark stories I've watched, but there were plenty of characters that added perspective and humor to the tale, like Tyrion. In the original Star Wars the bad guys are blowing up planets and murdering people, but there's still plenty of humor.
 
One of my earliest memories is of my mum reading The Hobbit to me, night after night, when I was about five years old.

Tolkien has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember, and the fall of Westernesse and the Doom of the Elves have informed just about every aspect of the stories I love.

To borrow a phrase:

“There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men bad enough for such treachery.”​


I was prepared to forgive some of the revisionism in Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, despite the execrable way they butchered Faramir. When they came along with Sebastian the Resurrection Hedgehog, though, well, thats when they went on my shit list.

I have not watched the Rings of Power. From the sound of it it would give me an aneurism.

I'd far rather go see where I can find and watch Britannia.
 
I have not watched the Rings of Power. From the sound of it it would give me an aneurism.
I started and stopped before I murdered somebody.

Also, the masochistic part of me suffered through two seasons of Wheel of Time Show just because I wanted to see how they would piss on Jordan's books next.

Fuck Tolkien's heirs and fuck Harriet McDougal for selling out the treasured legacy of those books.
 
Show me on the doll where the damane touched you.
Jordan had such an obvious taste for BDSM. It's a shame he didn't delve into it more explicitly with some juicy Literotica series... or didn't he? 👻

Imagine instead of a session with a dominatrix, paying for a session with a Sul'Dam
 
Jordan had such an obvious taste for BDSM. It's a shame he didn't delve into it more explicitly with some juicy Literotica series... or didn't he? 👻

Imagine instead of a session with a dominatrix, paying for a session with a Sul'Dam
Nynaeve just tugged at her braid in irritation. And Elayne's crossed her arms under her breasts.
 
I have never seen writing as bad as Rings of Power. It's so piss poor it borders on comedy. Its a show I wanted to like, but it's so beyond stupid-not to mention mostly off the rails in respect to source material, that its needs a MSFT3k treatment.

The opposite was Haunting of Hillhouse from a few years back, just incredible how Flanagan tied the beginning and the end together and showed two sides of different events. It needs to be watched twice to pick it all up.
 
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