Write a fairly mean spirited letter to a woman and you might get DEATH THREATS

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Be careful what you write to her. You never know when she'll take your private correspondence and splash it all over the net.

You don't even have to threaten her or call her a bitch or any of that.

You just have to be a little mean.

And ladies, I know some of you have sent far nastier emails to dudes for the sole reason that you didn't find him attractive. Imagine if your email was made public and you received threatening phone calls?

Oh snap.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/earlyshow/living/relationships/printable3525288.shtml

"The Worst Person In The World"
Los Angeles, Nov. 20, 2007(CBS) Imagine if you finally got your 15 minutes of fame - but you became famous for a snotty e-mail you shot off to some woman on an online dating site that she sent to her friends and which ended up on the widely-read blog Gawker.com, which then dubbed you: "The Worst Person In The World." As in, even worse than Osama.

Welcome to the downside of Internet fame. And that's about as low as you can go.

And meet John Fitzgerald Page, the author of the scurrilous e-mail. He looks and sounds like a regular guy, albeit one with a firmly established sense of self-esteem. When he met a woman on Match.com, he chattily wrote to her:

"I live in a 31-story high-rise condominium, right in the middle of the Buckhead (Atlanta) nightlife district. Do you ever come to this area of town to shop/go out/visit/explore?

"I went to an Ivy League school -- the University of Pennsylvania -- for my undergraduate degree in economics and my graduate degree in management (Wharton School of Business). Where did you go to school?

"What activities do you currently participate in to stay in shape? I work out four times a week at LA Fitness. Do you exercise regularly? I am 6 feet tall, 185 pounds -- what about yourself? I am truly sorry if that sounds rude, impolite or even downright crass, but I have been deceived before by inaccurate representations so I prefer someone be upfront and honest on initial contact...

"I do mergers & acquisitions (corporate finance) for Limited Brands (Bath & Body Works, Victoria's Secret, etc). Enjoy any of our stores/divisions?

"Do you have any other recent pictures you care to share? I have many others if you care to see them."

The woman, known only as Jen, decided against meeting Page and Match.com sent out a polite, computer-generated letter letting him know she didn't think they'd be compatible; he then dashed off this ill-advised retort:

"I think you forgot how this works. You hit on me, and therefore have to impress ME and pass MY criteria and standards -- not vice versa. Six pictures of just your head and your inability to answer a simple question lets me know one thing. You are not in shape. I am a trainer on the side, in fact, I am heading to the gym in 26 minutes!

"So next time you meet a guy of my caliber, instead of trying to turn it around, just get to the gym! I will even give you one free training session, so you don't blow it with the next 8.9 on Hot or Not, Ivy League grad, Mensa member, can bench/squat/leg press over 1200 lbs., has had lunch with the secretary of defense, has an MBA from the top school in the country, lives in a Buckhead high rise, drives a Beemer convertible, has been in 14 major motion pictures, was in Jezebel's Best dressed, etc. Oh, that is right, there aren't any more of those!"

Oh, snaps, potentially fat girl! Take that! The blogosphere roared and Page went down in history as the man who makes Osama seem cordial by comparison.

Page is now trying to do some spin control and turn his shame into fame. As part of his "I'm really not so bad" campaign he spoke with Julie Chen on The Early Show.

Asked if, with hindsight, he regretted sending the e-mail, Page said, "We're talking about a personal e-mail I sent on a paid service that was masked with a masked e-mail address, so we're going to talk about my personal business today. So, no, I don't have any regrets. I should be allowed to correspond with people without regrets."

When he sent the e-mail, Page said, "I was a little frustrated because I was pretty much giving her a chance to impress me since she hit on me first and met my standards, and to say we weren't a personality match based on the fact she'd never met me or talked to me I thought was harsh. So, I just wanted her to know next time she met someone of my caliber, she might want to step back. If you hit on someone and find them attractive, then find they have a good job, live in a nice area and take care of themselves, that's not the time you reject somebody, I would think."

The fallout has been relentless, said Page. "People are calling me, e-mailing me, threatening me constantly. People that want to fight me. People that have known me now... are taking me off their 'friends' page. So, the backlash has been incredible. I'm just here to say that nothing's really going to get me down. I know who I am, and I'm going to keep living my life and enjoy myself."

"What is your strategy now other than that?" asked Chen. "You'll probably get more threats. You're talking to us on national television."

"I live in a secure building. Also, I mean, when you think about it, if you're going to threaten me over a personal, private e-mail to someone that I wasn't threatening, I think the problem is on your end," said Page.

"Secondly, I think most reasonable people realize that this is my personal and private business and that, you know, I also wrote a response on the front of my Web page that basically said, 'Hey, this could happen to you.' I mean, anything you ever text, photograph, e-mail, send to somebody, you know, over the phone, if someone decides to expose you to the world, this could be you. If this could happen to an Ivy League grad and someone who has an IQ like mine, this could happen to anyone."
 
I love this quote, "If this could happen to an Ivy League grad and someone who has an IQ like mine, this could happen to anyone."

I mean, seriously, the rest of us idiots better watch out.
 
Congrats LT, you seemed to have learned the newest slang of the younger set......"Oh, Snap!"

Other than that, I didn't finish reading your post (unlike me) but, I have a dinner party to put on after a brunch party for different parties. :rolleyes:

Yes, I AM feeling snarkey. :D

You are invited, of course. :kiss:
 
the pen is mightier than the sword...

especially in these modern times...
back in the days of snail mail it was quite easy, wasn't it ?

curse you, modern technology !!!
 
StrangeSuzy said:
Congrats LT, you seemed to have learned the newest slang of the younger set......"Oh, Snap!"

Other than that, I didn't finish reading your post (unlike me) but, I have a dinner party to put on after a brunch party for different parties. :rolleyes:

Yes, I AM feeling snarkey. :D

You are invited, of course. :kiss:

I'm posting this reply all over the internet.

I hope you end up on day time talk shows defending this post someday.
 
IF any guy ever wrote that shit to me I would laugh!

I've had some fairly dumb ass replies sent to me via online ads but this poser is the biggest dumb ass on the planet. No wonder he's single with his fucking pompous, Ivy league arrogance. Oh yeah, dude you are so large and in charge because you have a "MBA from the top school in the country." Some of the biggest fucking idiots I've met have Masters degrees. Also, he's incredibly smart as well because he has a "high rise condo." OMG, I have to laugh and that is supposed to be impressive....because? I would have put his emails on the Net because he's such a fucking dumb ass. I would do it purely for comedy value.

I also love it when men automatically assume a woman is "fat" because she won't post a full-body shot of herself or a picture at all. Have men stopped to think that as a single woman posting a face picture makes a woman very vulnerable and puts a woman's safety at risk? As a single woman, I'm incredibly selective whom I choose to share a face picture with on the Net. I just love how this guy automatically assumed she was fat because she didn't show him a full body picture. Also, what's up with this commanding and demanding shit? Because a woman "hits" on a man via an email then she MUST IMPRESS HIM? OMFG, did we step back into a time machine and it's 1955? Oh fuck, am I supposed to be barefoot and pregnant? Wait, isn't this 2007?

His words make me laugh. This is true comedy.




LovingTongue said:
Be careful what you write to her. You never know when she'll take your private correspondence and splash it all over the net.

You don't even have to threaten her or call her a bitch or any of that.

You just have to be a little mean.

And ladies, I know some of you have sent far nastier emails to dudes for the sole reason that you didn't find him attractive. Imagine if your email was made public and you received threatening phone calls?

Oh snap.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/earlyshow/living/relationships/printable3525288.shtml

"The Worst Person In The World"
Los Angeles, Nov. 20, 2007(CBS) Imagine if you finally got your 15 minutes of fame - but you became famous for a snotty e-mail you shot off to some woman on an online dating site that she sent to her friends and which ended up on the widely-read blog Gawker.com, which then dubbed you: "The Worst Person In The World." As in, even worse than Osama.

Welcome to the downside of Internet fame. And that's about as low as you can go.

And meet John Fitzgerald Page, the author of the scurrilous e-mail. He looks and sounds like a regular guy, albeit one with a firmly established sense of self-esteem. When he met a woman on Match.com, he chattily wrote to her:

"I live in a 31-story high-rise condominium, right in the middle of the Buckhead (Atlanta) nightlife district. Do you ever come to this area of town to shop/go out/visit/explore?

"I went to an Ivy League school -- the University of Pennsylvania -- for my undergraduate degree in economics and my graduate degree in management (Wharton School of Business). Where did you go to school?

"What activities do you currently participate in to stay in shape? I work out four times a week at LA Fitness. Do you exercise regularly? I am 6 feet tall, 185 pounds -- what about yourself? I am truly sorry if that sounds rude, impolite or even downright crass, but I have been deceived before by inaccurate representations so I prefer someone be upfront and honest on initial contact...

"I do mergers & acquisitions (corporate finance) for Limited Brands (Bath & Body Works, Victoria's Secret, etc). Enjoy any of our stores/divisions?

"Do you have any other recent pictures you care to share? I have many others if you care to see them."

The woman, known only as Jen, decided against meeting Page and Match.com sent out a polite, computer-generated letter letting him know she didn't think they'd be compatible; he then dashed off this ill-advised retort:

"I think you forgot how this works. You hit on me, and therefore have to impress ME and pass MY criteria and standards -- not vice versa. Six pictures of just your head and your inability to answer a simple question lets me know one thing. You are not in shape. I am a trainer on the side, in fact, I am heading to the gym in 26 minutes!

"So next time you meet a guy of my caliber, instead of trying to turn it around, just get to the gym! I will even give you one free training session, so you don't blow it with the next 8.9 on Hot or Not, Ivy League grad, Mensa member, can bench/squat/leg press over 1200 lbs., has had lunch with the secretary of defense, has an MBA from the top school in the country, lives in a Buckhead high rise, drives a Beemer convertible, has been in 14 major motion pictures, was in Jezebel's Best dressed, etc. Oh, that is right, there aren't any more of those!"

Oh, snaps, potentially fat girl! Take that! The blogosphere roared and Page went down in history as the man who makes Osama seem cordial by comparison.

Page is now trying to do some spin control and turn his shame into fame. As part of his "I'm really not so bad" campaign he spoke with Julie Chen on The Early Show.

Asked if, with hindsight, he regretted sending the e-mail, Page said, "We're talking about a personal e-mail I sent on a paid service that was masked with a masked e-mail address, so we're going to talk about my personal business today. So, no, I don't have any regrets. I should be allowed to correspond with people without regrets."

When he sent the e-mail, Page said, "I was a little frustrated because I was pretty much giving her a chance to impress me since she hit on me first and met my standards, and to say we weren't a personality match based on the fact she'd never met me or talked to me I thought was harsh. So, I just wanted her to know next time she met someone of my caliber, she might want to step back. If you hit on someone and find them attractive, then find they have a good job, live in a nice area and take care of themselves, that's not the time you reject somebody, I would think."

The fallout has been relentless, said Page. "People are calling me, e-mailing me, threatening me constantly. People that want to fight me. People that have known me now... are taking me off their 'friends' page. So, the backlash has been incredible. I'm just here to say that nothing's really going to get me down. I know who I am, and I'm going to keep living my life and enjoy myself."

"What is your strategy now other than that?" asked Chen. "You'll probably get more threats. You're talking to us on national television."

"I live in a secure building. Also, I mean, when you think about it, if you're going to threaten me over a personal, private e-mail to someone that I wasn't threatening, I think the problem is on your end," said Page.

"Secondly, I think most reasonable people realize that this is my personal and private business and that, you know, I also wrote a response on the front of my Web page that basically said, 'Hey, this could happen to you.' I mean, anything you ever text, photograph, e-mail, send to somebody, you know, over the phone, if someone decides to expose you to the world, this could be you. If this could happen to an Ivy League grad and someone who has an IQ like mine, this could happen to anyone."
 
Javagirl said:
I've had some fairly dumb ass replies sent to me via online ads but this poser is the biggest dumb ass on the planet. No wonder he's single with his fucking pompous, Ivy league arrogance. Oh yeah, dude you are so large and in charge because you have a "MBA from the top school in the country." Some of the biggest fucking idiots I've met have Masters degrees. Also, he's incredibly smart as well because he has a "high rise condo." OMG, I have to laugh and that is supposed to be impressive....because? I would have put his emails on the Net because he's such a fucking dumb ass. I would do it purely for comedy value.

I also love it when men automatically assume a woman is "fat" because she won't post a full-body shot of herself or a picture at all. Have men stopped to think that as a single woman posting a face picture makes a woman very vulnerable and puts a woman's safety at risk? As a single woman, I'm incredibly selective whom I choose to share a face picture with on the Net. I just love how this guy automatically assumed she was fat because she didn't show him a full body picture. Also, what's up with this commanding and demanding shit? Because a woman "hits" on a man via an email then she MUST IMPRESS HIM? OMFG, did we step back into a time machine and it's 1955? Oh fuck, am I supposed to be barefoot and pregnant? Wait, isn't this 2007?

His words make me laugh. This is true comedy.

Really, this isn't so much a gender thing as it is...that guy is just a dick. A very unlucky dick. But still, just your average dick.
 
i don't give a fuck that he drives a fancy car or works out
it's the personality and he's too much of a pompous dick for me to give him a second glance, she was right to reject him
 
posterOfAgirl said:
i don't give a fuck that he drives a fancy car or works out
it's the personality and he's too much of a pompous dick for me to give him a second glance, she was right to reject him

But was it right for him to be labeled the worst person in the world and have his email posted all over the internet?

My opinion, probably not, but it is funny. And since this kind of stuff is going to happen to someone, may as well be him.



I'm responding way too much to this thread. Gah, lit is dead. I'm off to play Donkey Kong.
 
Darktan said:
But was it right for him to be labeled the worst person in the world and have his email posted all over the internet?

My opinion, probably not, but it is funny. And since this kind of stuff is going to happen to someone, may as well be him.



I'm responding way too much to this thread. Gah, lit is dead. I'm off to play Donkey Kong.
no, he deserves flaming dog doo on his porch though

g'night!
 
Darktan said:
I'm posting this reply all over the internet.

I hope you end up on day time talk shows defending this post someday.

Have at it sweetie.

BTW, what are you doing for brunch? :kiss:
 
Women do it all the time!

This is NOT a new concept. I've seen websites where both women and men trash their ex's and say all kinds of nasty shit about each other. This story just happened to be publicized because it was through Match.com It's all about the spin, people.
 
Javagirl said:
I've had some fairly dumb ass replies sent to me via online ads but this poser is the biggest dumb ass on the planet. No wonder he's single with his fucking pompous, Ivy league arrogance. Oh yeah, dude you are so large and in charge because you have a "MBA from the top school in the country." Some of the biggest fucking idiots I've met have Masters degrees. Also, he's incredibly smart as well because he has a "high rise condo." OMG, I have to laugh and that is supposed to be impressive....because? I would have put his emails on the Net because he's such a fucking dumb ass. I would do it purely for comedy value.
If this dude was the biggest dumbass on the planet this world would be a hell of a lot better place than it is now.

She was right to reject page

(allow me to repeat: she did the right thing by rejecting this dude)

but posting his email on a website

which had no threats, gender or racial slurs of any sort

was taking things too far. And the responses by the readers were REALLY crazy.


I also love it when men automatically assume a woman is "fat" because she won't post a full-body shot of herself or a picture at all. Have men stopped to think that as a single woman posting a face picture makes a woman very vulnerable and puts a woman's safety at risk? As a single woman, I'm incredibly selective whom I choose to share a face picture with on the Net. I just love how this guy automatically assumed she was fat because she didn't show him a full body picture. Also, what's up with this commanding and demanding shit? Because a woman "hits" on a man via an email then she MUST IMPRESS HIM? OMFG, did we step back into a time machine and it's 1955? Oh fuck, am I supposed to be barefoot and pregnant? Wait, isn't this 2007?

His words make me laugh. This is true comedy.
You're very right about this.

Nobody's contesting that he's an asshole.

The issue is, why do women have to post the guy's non death/violence threatening letter, that has no friggin slurs or even curse words, on the web, to be ranked and judged among all the stalkers, racists, and real genuine nutballs who truly deserve to be outed?
 
LovingTongue said:
If this dude was the biggest dumbass on the planet this world would be a hell of a lot better place than it is now.

She was right to reject page

(allow me to repeat: she did the right thing by rejecting this dude)

but posting his email on a website

which had no threats, gender or racial slurs of any sort

was taking things too far. And the responses by the readers were REALLY crazy.



You're very right about this.

Nobody's contesting that he's an asshole.

The issue is, why do women have to post the guy's non death/violence threatening letter, that has no friggin slurs or even curse words, on the web, to be ranked and judged among all the stalkers, racists, and real genuine nutballs who truly deserve to be outed?
Are you saying that all women do this? It sure looks like you are.
 
I don't think it was cool to post his personal information, but you could be damn sure I'd post every single word of his email on my blog, and send out mass emails to everyone in my address book.

For my friends and relatives that don't do email, I'd have printed out copies. In color.

Comedy like this just can't be beat.

He just couldn't help being angry about being turned down by a fat chick.

Or worse, a potential fat chick.

Gods, the poor guy!
 
richard_daily said:
The dude sounds like a total douchebag... just sayin'
That's universally agreed on - but how does that justify the death threats he's getting?

And I bet you if I looked for 10 minutes I could find an example of a woman sending a guy a MUCH harsher, less provoked insult, and it never got this kind of hatred. Women can get away with far more verbal abuse than men. I dare any fool to say that's wrong.

Would you ever take some insulting email from a woman and post it all over the web?
 
That guy is obviously a prick and the woman escaped a potentially horrid couple of dates by rejecting him.

You point out that women, in your opinion, go way too far in the payback and you feel they do this as a rule.

As I understand it, sites like Match.com people can take a slight risk and select someone they find interesting. And if for some reason, they don't care for something the person says later, they can passively pull back. Everyone moves on.

I'm guessing that rejection is rejection in this case with these adults and the sting is no less insulting. So the fellow follows up his first regrettable e-mail with one that reveals that the woman's first instincts were right in rejecting him. Oh look! The Ivy-leaguer is a giant ass. No amount of workout will reduce the size of his anus-like personality.

Her response to his response is amusing. I do disagree with posting his personal information. It would have still been funny as hell to see the e-mail.
Of course, I don't see it as a gender characteristic but rather a quirk of the medium.

In a place like the dating site, or lit, personal information is closely guarded until people decide its okay to share that information. So the daring behavior people have available to them is to reveal that personal information to others. It's the 21st century verson of egging someone's car.

Once the information is known, others in the peanut gallery feel free to harass the goober. And within that realm, there are obviously mentally unstable people who will use Mr. Goober as a punching bag for all of their hurt feelings over the years. Yeah they are whacky. But so is all of the other anti-social behavior people engage in.
 
Sometimes their is hidden meaning in the interactions that become public and is misunderstood. then some well intentioned knight in shinning armor come along in an attempt to rescue the damsel only getting his armor tarnished because said damsel has deceived the knight also.

just saying.
 
Redneck_Cowboy said:
Sometimes their is hidden meaning in the interactions that become public and is misunderstood. then some well intentioned knight in shinning armor come along in an attempt to rescue the damsel only getting his armor tarnished because said damsel has deceived the knight also.

just saying.

I've obviously missed some sort of lit event between last night and this morning.
 
moana15 said:
That guy is obviously a prick and the woman escaped a potentially horrid couple of dates by rejecting him.

You point out that women, in your opinion, go way too far in the payback and you feel they do this as a rule.

As I understand it, sites like Match.com people can take a slight risk and select someone they find interesting. And if for some reason, they don't care for something the person says later, they can passively pull back. Everyone moves on.

I'm guessing that rejection is rejection in this case with these adults and the sting is no less insulting. So the fellow follows up his first regrettable e-mail with one that reveals that the woman's first instincts were right in rejecting him. Oh look! The Ivy-leaguer is a giant ass. No amount of workout will reduce the size of his anus-like personality.

Her response to his response is amusing. I do disagree with posting his personal information. It would have still been funny as hell to see the e-mail.
Of course, I don't see it as a gender characteristic but rather a quirk of the medium.

In a place like the dating site, or lit, personal information is closely guarded until people decide its okay to share that information. So the daring behavior people have available to them is to reveal that personal information to others. It's the 21st century verson of egging someone's car.

Once the information is known, others in the peanut gallery feel free to harass the goober. And within that realm, there are obviously mentally unstable people who will use Mr. Goober as a punching bag for all of their hurt feelings over the years. Yeah they are whacky. But so is all of the other anti-social behavior people engage in.
You might not have that same tune if some of the harsh rejection emails sent by women to men, wound up on a blog and her personal information got out and men started Gooberizing her.

I'm thinking that it should be illegal to post private emails on blogs like that without permission, unless the jerk is threatening her.
 
Poor man. First rejected, then exposed for the egotistical doofus he truly is. You'd think someone who had lunch with the Sec'y of Defense would be better at dodging bullets.
 
LovingTongue said:
You might not have that same tune if some of the harsh rejection emails sent by women to men, wound up on a blog and her personal information got out and men started Gooberizing her.

I'm thinking that it should be illegal to post private emails on blogs like that without permission, unless the jerk is threatening her.

I would feel the same about it. I don't feel that women need particularly more protection than men in this arena.
 
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