Would you pay a subscription to Literotica if it led to better service?

[jsmiam]

Well, actually I have a pretty consistent ideological framework. If you can find me arguing inconsistent positions please feel free to point it out, since you seem to delight in that. It should be super easy, right?…

Maybe I will. Maybe I won’t. LC is worth it because it’s so darned easy. You, not so much worth it. But it wouldn’t be hard.

As for walls of text.... so you by your own admission skip over longer nuanced explanations of things and then you can't pin down a consistent belief system... weird how that works. (That's a hint BTW),

Oh boy. In your posts, THAT might be hard.

I don't "target" anyone. I'm just calling out hypocrisy. I mean, it's ok when you call out LC68 for supposedly doing that, so that must be above board?

Hmm. I do recall you getting mad at someone for paraphrasing you, right? A few weeks ago? You paraphrased me there.

Nonetheless. I probably won’t bother in your case, not worth it. I apologize for bringing you into this.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Changing the subject, hopefully back to what the thread is about, were I to pay to publish here they'd have to be changes. First, a loosening of some rules, still no graphic scenes of underaged sex, but a least an admission of losing one virginity at an early age. A little more leeway on noncon stories, so that rape can be described as rape and not forced enjoyment. That doesn't mean you need to go into erotizing rape, which is what current rules require. I'm sure others would want other rules relaxed. What are some of y'alls thoughts on that?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Maybe I will. Maybe I won’t. LC is worth it because it’s so darned easy. You, not so much worth it. But it wouldn’t be hard.

Oh boy. In your posts, THAT might be hard.

Hmm. I do recall you getting mad at someone for paraphrasing you, right? A few weeks ago? You paraphrased me there.

Nonetheless. I probably won’t bother in your case, not worth it. I apologize for bringing you into this.

No, I didn't get mad at someone for paraphrasing me, I pointed out that it was inappropriate to change something in a quote, to make it appear that I said something I didn't. You seem to struggle with nuance.

So, we're going to play that game where you could totally do something, and it would be super easy... but you aren't going to do it. That's a rather dishonest tactic. You make an accusation, claim you could easily find proof, but of course, it's not worth it... or something.

 

[iwatchus]

A little more leeway on noncon stories, so that rape can be described as rape and forced enjoyment

I assume (hope) you mean "as rape and not forced enjoyment"

I will second the frustrations with being concerned about talking about sexuality pre age 18. I sweated whether mentioning that my MC had looked at playboy/penthiouse magazines at age 15.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yes, I went back and corrected it.

I assume (hope) you mean "as rape and not forced enjoyment"

I will second the frustrations with being concerned about talking about sexuality pre age 18. I sweated whether mentioning that my MC had looked at playboy/penthiouse magazines at age 15.

 

[jsmiam]

Well, actually I have a pretty consistent ideological framework. If you can find me arguing inconsistent positions please feel free to point it out, since you seem to delight in that. It should be super easy, right?…

Fine. I’ll work on it. It’s (and you) still not really worth the effort though.

I’ll start with this: (bolded text) That’s like choosing your own nickname. It doesn’t work that way. If others say you have a consistent ideological framework, then you probably do. If you find yourself being the only one thinking you have a consistent ideological framework, then you probably don’t.

Btw, one of the reasons I alluded to earlier about thinking twice about when to post, is I don’t want the engagement obligation. I’ve just committed myself to more time than I wanted to spend.

It’ll probably take a bit for me to find an example you can’t argue away, because I know you will. So my goal will be to prove you as being inconsistent in the eyes of others, since I know you’ll never concede.

We can give the others a break for a while. I’ll be back.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Yes, I went back and corrected it.

Just to be clear, you're talking about for everyone, right? I think a two-tier system where people can pay for looser moderation is a very bad, and dangerous, idea.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I'm talking about the ones who pay to publish. So, no not everyone. And yes, it might be a bad idea no matter what, but I wouldn't pay for what we have now as an author.

Just to be clear, you're talking about for everyone, right? I think a two-tier system where people can pay for looser moderation is a very bad, and dangerous, idea.

 

[YmaOHyd]

I'm talking about the ones who pay to publish. So, no not everyone. And yes, it might be a bad idea no matter what, but I wouldn't pay for what we have now as an author.

I think it'd be a bad idea no matter what, but applying different rules surrounding childhood sexuality to people who pay is likely to bring some, ah, scrutiny to the site from people in windbreakers and badges.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Fine. I’ll work on it. It’s (and you) still aren’t really worth the effort though.

I’ll start with this: (bolded text) That’s like choosing your own nickname. It doesn’t work that way. If others say you have a consistent ideological framework, then you probably do. If you find yourself being the only one thinking you have a consistent ideological framework, then you probably don’t.

Btw, one of the reasons I alluded to earlier about thinking twice about when to post, is I don’t want the engagement obligation. I’ve just committed myself to more time than I wanted to spend.

It’ll probably take a bit for me to find an example you can’t argue away, because I know you will. So my goal will be to prove you as being inconsistent in the eyes of others, since I know you’ll never concede.

We can give the others a break for a while. I’ll be back.

Ahhh, but we only have one person (you) saying I don't have a consistent ideological framework. And that person, by his own admission, doesn't actually read long posts.

This is another cheap tactic where someone tries to create the perception that there is some majority opinion on a topic even when there clearly isn't. The whole, "everyone knows..." gambit.

You really are terrible at this. You should go back to creeping on people, from what I hear you were at least semi-good at that.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I think it'd be a bad idea no matter what, but applying different rules surrounding childhood sexuality to people who pay is likely to bring some, ah, scrutiny to the site from people in windbreakers and badges.

"If you pay extra we have kiddies" is probably not a good marketing line.

 

[Aoife_from_Ulster]

Just adding my two sons right for pure enjoyment and my own satisfaction yes it matters to me to an extent what the reader say or fake or provide feedback on, but honestly, I would not pay let or subscribe to it for any minimal monetary amount to post what I write frankly that’s what drew me to this. There are other sites, but why should I have to pay them to post something that’s going to drive content to their webpage

 

[YmaOHyd]

Just adding my two sons

I think you should value your sons more highly than this

 

[jsmiam]

Ahhh, but we only have one person (you) saying I don't have a consistent ideological framework. And that person, by his own admission, doesn't actually read long posts.

Err. Umm. I got to say the nay no, my brother. (Pootie tang). I’m most definitely not alone.

This is another cheap tactic where someone tries to create the perception that there is some majority opinion on a topic even when there clearly isn't. The whole, "everyone knows..." gambit.

See above.

You really are terrible at this. You should go back to creeping on people, from what I hear you were at least semi-good at that.

Sounds like you sidebarred with LC? I thought you weren’t fan club members? Beware though, it may not be time for you to start sucking each others dicks yet. (Harvey keitel, in pulp fiction.)

Nonetheless. I’ll find some irrefutably inconsistent posts of yours before replying again. Until then I’ll stop distracting this thread more than I already have.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Err. Umm. I got to say the nay no, my brother. (Pootie tang). I’m most definitely not alone.

See above.

Sounds like you sidebarred with LC? I thought you weren’t fan club members? Beware though, it may not be time for you to start sucking each others dicks yet. (Harvey keitel, in pulp fiction.)

Nonetheless. I’ll find some irrefutably inconsistent posts of yours before replying again. Until then I’ll stop distracting this thread more than I already have.

Ahhh.... the "There's a mouse in your pocket" argument...
All these people who agree with you, are they in the room with you right now?

Again, juvenile attempt to create a false sense of majority.

Not sure why you want to keep dragging LC68 into things. Everyone knows about your proclivities, at this point you should probably just add it to your signature line.

 

[Djmac1031]

All these people who agree with you, are they in the room with you right now?

At least one is.

 

[Aoife_from_Ulster]

I think you should value your sons more highly than this

Okay cents, voice to text and these older eyes don’t function as well when my ire is up.

My two cents

 

[Kelliezgirl]

At least one is.

Oh, I suspect the usual suspects will appear in good order. No one will really be surprised at who they are.
Will they offer any proof of actual ideological inconsistencies, no, no they will not.

 

[jsmiam]

Ok. I really don’t need the time commitment. You aren’t worth it as I’ve said repeatedly, and in spite of what I’m about to post, I know you will say you were being perfectly ideologically consistent in spite of these examples.

Here’s you in the controversial opinions thread page 16 then 17 (https://forum.literotica.com/threads/write-a-controversial-opinion.1642372/page-16#post-101687156) criticizing people for criticizing the site, then you criticizing the site a few short minutes later, then criticizing people for criticizing the site again, in the very. Next. Post.

People who were used to getting stories published in three days suddenly didn't. Crisis is a VERY relative term.

Not as far as anyone can actually tell. The site is as opaque as it always is.

So a small group of people. Not exactly a crisis. And since the "support threads" are the usual suspects every time, there isn't much evidence that they are helping win back trust. Especially since the issue is ongoing, and no one who has anything to do with the support thread has any control over it, or inside knowledge or anything else.
If people want to sit in a drum circle and sing Kumbaya great. But let's not pretend it's really changing anything.

Nonetheless, I’m done here. There is a thread and a topic at hand here. I don’t want to be part of the reason a thread gets shut down. I gift you with the last word in your next reply. You’re welcome.

 

[jsmiam]

Ok. Change of subject and a little levity, to make up for earlier non-levity, one of my all time favorite movie quotes: (very short, watch until the end).

P.S. in an ironic twist of fate, I actually agree with LC on a few things here and there. I wholly agree that Quentin Tarantino is a deeply flawed person in several ways, including doing nothing when he knew what Harvey Weinstein was up to. The world of entertainment forces us to make difficult decisions sometimes. So I do still watch most movies by Quentin Tarantino (but not any with Tom Cruise), but out of respect for Bruce Lee, I’ve never watched once upon a time in Hollywood. This nonetheless, is still one of the all time great movie quotes.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I said you couldn't write scenes about the sex, but could admit to having had it. It would be a modification of the rule not abandonment.

I think it'd be a bad idea no matter what, but applying different rules surrounding childhood sexuality to people who pay is likely to bring some, ah, scrutiny to the site from people in windbreakers and badges.

 

[AH_Mod]

At this point, I believe the answer is overwhelmingly in the negative, serving the purpose of thread. It's degenerating into nothing but sniping and personal attacks, so I'm going to close it.