Worldwide Obamamania

[3113]

Okay. I know that, now and then, a U.S. president hits the global Zeitgeist. Kennedy for example, and evidently, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. This, however, is getting a little outta hand...

 

[midwestyankee]

Okay. I know that, now and then, a U.S. president hits the global Zeitgeist. Kennedy for example, and evidently, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. This, however, is getting a little outta hand...

Why is it an issue for you that people around the world are happy with our selection of a new President?

 

[3113]

Why is it an issue for you that people around the world are happy with our selection of a new President?

Their happiness isn't an issue...but I gotta admit to being weirded out by the masks.

 

[Guest]

I like it. I want a mask.

I'm so damned excited about tomorrow!

I've been talking this up with my students, telling them how important this event truly is.

I told them that in twenty years, kids their age would be forced to study it and would be tested over it in their social studies classes. They were shocked.

I also told them that fifty years from now they'd be grandparents and would be reminiscing to their grandkids how they remembered the day that the first black president was sworn in.

I told them I hoped that their grandkids would not be impressed. That they would say, "So what? We've had a bunch of black presidents since then! Who cares?"

When it is commonplace, it will be grand.

I've been smiling since November. Can't wait.

 

[Guest]

I found out that I was pregnant on the day that he won the election... I remember touching my belly and saying to her girl, "This love is for all of us... our ancestors... and everyone that will come after.... This is the moment where we said "We are here and we can change for the better."

I will be crying tomorrow as well.... when he takes his oath of office... when he is sworn in... when ALL of America can say with utter honesty... yes we truly can.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Please don't let this presidency tank, please don't let this presidency tank, please . . .

 

[Guest]

Please don't let this presidency tank, please don't let this presidency tank, please . . .

That's not the way to think.

Compare the one we have now (for another 12 hours) with the one we're about to have.

Intellect?

Class?

Respect for the position?

Concern for someone other than himself?

No contest.

Times are going to be tough. But no talk of tanking.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

I wonder how long it will be before the first bumper sticker appears that says: Don't blame me. I voted for McCain." I will never have one on my car, but some people probably will.

Seriously, I hope people who expect miracles aren't too disappointed. Obama is just a human being, not the Messiah.

 

[Guest]

It'll take a long time.

Intelligence in the White House?

New experience.

Not Messiah.

Just someone with brains.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

And ethics . . . for the first time in at least sixteen years!

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

And ethics . . . for the first time in at least sixteen years!

Brains, yes. But how can you be so sure of ethics. He is a Chicago politician without much of a track record and he has been known to be involved with some shady characters.

 

[Guest]

Brains, yes. But how can you be so sure of ethics. He is a Chicago politician without much of a track record and he has been known to be involved with some shady characters.

Oh, fuck.

Clueless, you are.

 

[DeeZire]

Brains, yes. But how can you be so sure of ethics. He is a Chicago politician without much of a track record and he has been known to be involved with some shady characters.

Isn't that grounds for impeachment? Write your congressman. Today!

Better yet, succumb to your fear and leave the country. We are, after all, trying to come together as one nation, turning red states and blue states into purple states, and the last thing we need is a bunch of paranoid wingnuts trying to sabotage our efforts.

I hear the regime in Iran is very much like the theocracy Bush attempted to foist upon us during his God-inspired rein of incompetence. You might really like it there.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPrettyAss
Brains, yes. But how can you be so sure of ethics. He is a Chicago politician without much of a track record and he has been known to be involved with some shady characters.

Isn't that grounds for impeachment? Write your congressman. Today!

Better yet, succumb to your fear and leave the country. We are, after all, trying to come together as one nation, turning red states and blue states into purple states, and the last thing we need is a bunch of paranoid wingnuts trying to sabotage our efforts.

I hear the regime in Iran is very much like the theocracy Bush attempted to foist upon us during his God-inspired rein of incompetence. You might really like it there.

Of course it's not grounds for impeachment but it's also not grounds for the virtual worship that has been expressed on this forum for the last year. All I am saying is that we don't know the man well enough to be sure of his ethics and some things we know about him would make us doubt them.

Since I live in this country also and have the same hopes and dreams as most people, I want Obama's presidency to be fabulously successful.

I am sure I wouldn't like it in Iran. The women's fashions are not things I would fancy.

 

[Carnevil9]

The more the rest of the world likes our President-elect, the more I'm sure we (as a country) made the wrong choice......Carney

 

[oggbashan]

The more the rest of the world likes our President-elect, the more I'm sure we (as a country) made the wrong choice......Carney

You did. Last time.

The hatred for the US administration and its policies has been virulent and a major recruiting aid to the War on Terror.

Obama brings hope that the US will change. Its friends welcome that. Its enemies are worried that it will change and make their enmity irrelevant.

For once there is massive goodwill for the US. That gives the new US administration a chance to change the world.

Og

 

[Carnevil9]

You did. Last time.

The hatred for the US administration and its policies has been virulent and a major recruiting aid to the War on Terror.

Obama brings hope that the US will change. Its friends welcome that. Its enemies are worried that it will change and make their enmity irrelevant.

For once there is massive goodwill for the US. That gives the new US administration a chance to change the world.

Og

The good news is, you correctly used the pronoun "its" where most people would have incorrectly written, "it's." Good work.

The bad news is, you are whacked. The US government exists for the benefit of the US, not for the benefit of the rest of the world.

 

[Over_Lord]

The good news is, you correctly used the pronoun "its" where most people would have incorrectly written, "it's." Good work.

The bad news is, you are whacked. The US government exists for the benefit of the US, not for the benefit of the rest of the world.

'Obamamania' is distinctly missing from the streets of GB.

I suppose most people simply hope he can bring a better and less self-centered USA to the table.

For sure, the only way is up.

 

[Carnevil9]

'Obamamania' is distinctly missing from the streets of GB.

I suppose most people simply hope he can bring a better and less self-centered USA to the table.

For sure, the only way is up.

I would ask you two things:

1. What other country elects leaders and sets policy to benefit countries other than itself?

2. Why should the USA do so?

 

[Liar]

I would ask you two things:

1. What other country elects leaders and sets policy to benefit countries other than itself?

2. Why should the USA do so?

You are stuck, it seems, in an erroneous assumption, that policies that harm and alienate the rest of the world, is benificial to the United States, and that policies that befriend and benefit the rest of the world, is not benificial to the United States.

This of couse, is incorrect.

 

[impressive]

I like it. I want a mask.

Please don't tell me what you plan to use it for. :|

 

[Over_Lord]

I would ask you two things:

1. What other country elects leaders and sets policy to benefit countries other than itself?

2. Why should the USA do so?

I'm curious.

In exactly which ways do you believe the USA has done anything contrary to the interests of its own military/industrial complex to help any other country over recent years - apart from Israelaho, it goes without saying.

Answering your second question, it has been the USA which has pushed, far more than any other country, the concept and practice of globalisation. Ghastly, throw-away McCulture has been foisted on the rest of us at the behest of the global superpower...

... but do we see any analagous US push to eradicate any of the world's problems... hunger, conflict, disease... not to mention the looming global catastrophe of climate change, to which America is the largest per capita contributor...?

Do we, my sainted backside.

America has wanted worldwide, political-economic hegemony without wanting to pay the social or environmental bill.

Possibly Obama will make a start on producing change in that respect, as well as maybe bringing Israelaho to behave less like the Nazis and acting as a recruiting sergeant for Al Qaeda.

If he does, he'll earn my respect, for one.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

VM

Here's a prophesy for you. Take it to the bank.

The people who will hate Obama the most are the people on this board who sing his praise today.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

To most of the rest of the world, the President is the public face of the United States. Policy be damned, ethics be damned, economy be damned -- he's the King of America. All they really care about now is that, for once, we have a Public face that looks something like theirs, something they can relate to, and that gives them hope that they'll be understood and respected. Obama's achievement is their achievement, and so of course they're delirious with happiness.

Remember all the Arabs who said he'd never be elected because his middle name was Hussein? All the people of color who said he'd never be elected because he was black? They knew America hated them because America was racist and anti-Arab, and now they have hope. Now the whole world has hope, and that's pretty fucking fantastic.

Whether he succeeds or fails as a president, the image of America in the world has already improved 100%.

 

[DesertPirate]

Brains, yes. But how can you be so sure of ethics. He is a Chicago politician without much of a track record and he has been known to be involved with some shady characters.

How true, wonders about the whole smoke-fire thing?