Words fail me.

[hobbit.]

We all know Bush deliberately suppressed scientific evidence about climate change, but this is an organised attempt to impose control over scientific fact. It's scary.

sorry you south manc cunt but i cant be arsed reading the thread. however i will add...

the entire ethos of it smacks of mancini and the other bitters claiming that this year they are the true champions due to the way they play!!! FFS !!!

 

[Sean]

sorry you south manc cunt but i cant be arsed reading the thread. however i will add...

the entire ethos of it smacks of mancini and the other bitters claiming that this year they are the true champions due to the way they play!!! FFS !!!

LMAO, hadn't heard that one. And i assume, like me, you're an honorary Wigan fan tomorrow?

 

[hobbit.]

I read a bit of the thread. This is a non political answer, you need to read my thesis 'all scientists are fear mongering twats and are little better than charlatans' it is available on the WWW. thingy.

This is an honest question and please leave politics out of it.

When I was a teenager all the science said we were going into an ice age. Now all the science says it's global warming.

Here is the question.

Has it ever been scientifically explained why the science was so wrong back then?

It's not nearly that simple.

Some years ago, I worked in the PR department of a notable lung research hospital. Since the "hospital" had less than 100 inpatient beds, the emphasis was obviously on research. Much of that research was directly related to respiratory disease, as one would expect.

But much of it was on a microbiological level investigating how cell and cell components behaved in various environments and in response to various stimuli. There was no guarantee that any of that research would bear any dramatic conclusions at all -- not for respiratory disease or anything else.

Scientific research performs a valid role when it reveals what doesn't work as surely as it does when it unveils miracles. Certainly, miracles are more exciting. But oft times we would have not found them had we not ventured to the end of many scientific cul-de-sacs along the way.

The above post substantiates my theory that all scientists should be put the sword. which is also available on the WWW.

 

[hobbit.]

LMAO, hadn't heard that one. And i assume, like me, you're an honorary Wigan fan tomorrow?

Not exactly, im with mike harding on that one.. 'napoleons retreat from wigan'

but i have been practicing singing who ate all the pies, the burgers and the fries.. we did.. and you didnt win the premiership.. blackburn held it longer than you.. you blue cunts.. and they only won it once.. like you they bought it... fancy a pie? eh? fucking want some.. ?

obviously the tune is a bit random.

 

[phrodeau]

Still, not flat and straight.

Well, if you use Trysail's method of hugely expanding the y-axis, it does look flat and straight.

 

[JackWilder]

What else can you expect from those morons? Yeah, new ice age was wrong. So??? That´s exactly what happens in science. Wrong theories are proven to be wrong. How ridiculous is this as an argument? Is anybody claiming medical research is not worth anything because when they started out with operations they didn´t sterilize the instruments and people died therefor? To the best of our knowledge climate change is happening. We can´t operate under assumptions from 100 years in the future.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

This is an honest question and please leave politics out of it.

When I was a teenager all the science said we were going into an ice age. Now all the science says it's global warming.

Here is the question.

Has it ever been scientifically explained why the science was so wrong back then?

Scientists are often wrong, science and its method is never wrong……...........……eventually.

 

[hobbit.]

Scientists are often wrong, science and its method is never wrong……...........……eventually.

care to explains Nuffields creative expression then?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Well, it's a whole nother discussion as to why the Federal government is funding research in the first place. It's corporate welfare that the tax payer's shouldn't be funding.

Come now, that doesn't matter. Money spent on (well-designed) scientific research is always money well spent. Yes, science is that important.

 

[Squibbs]

The GOP are idiots.

Words fail you just like life...

 

[KingOrfeo]

By exaggeration, suppression, bullying and manipulation, Al Gore, Michael Mann and James Hansen have done an enormous disservice to science. Not only that, the irony is that their political advocacy and scientific exaggeration caused scrutiny of the facts and opposition to the policies they advocated.

Boy, you wouldn't last a day in the Straight Dope Message Board Great Debates forum. GIGObuster would pick his teeth with you and spit you out.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So the global cooling debate never happened? There was no science involved?

See post #29, and follow the links in the links.

 

[trysail]

Wait Wait— this is NPR: You Can't Say That.




Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me!

Daily News Quiz
The online version of the oddly informative weekly radio show

April 25, 2012

A leading scientist, who has warned of the climate change threat for decades, recently made a bold pronouncement. What did he say?

• New York will be underwater by 2015
• Armageddon is next Tuesday
• Hurricane landfalls will triple in 2013
• It's actually not all that bad

You got it ! The answer is...

It's actually not all that bad

Scientist James Lovelock, who became a hero to the environmental movement with his pro-conservation "Gaia" theory, is known for his bold predictions about climate change. He once stated that by the end of the century "billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable." In a recent interview with msnbc.com, though, Lovelock admits to being "alarmist" about climate change and said it's not as bad as he once feared.

As you might imagine, progressives and environmentalists were not pleased with Lovelock's comments. Within hours of the interview's publication, the National Association of College Town Liberals revoked Lovelock's membership, impounded his Prius and confiscated his Whole Foods tote bag.



http://www.npr.org/templates/quiz/quiz.php

 

[trysail]

Somebody put their finger on the scale:

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http://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/chron_siteadj2.png

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http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/06/yamal-foi-sheds-new-light-on-flawed-data/

 

[neci]

the hill country hippies should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Dude, he's on the goddamn science committee.

Michele Bachmann is on the Intelligence Committee.

Apparently, Republicans have no sense of irony. Or shame.

 

[Sean]

Michele Bachmann is on the Intelligence Committee.

Apparently, Republicans have no sense of irony. Or shame.

This is what gets me about US politics. First of all, no-one that nutty would get a high profile post over here, but we try, all the parties, try to put people on the committees that know shit. People with medical doctorates get on health committees, people with science degrees get on science committees. How the fuck do you put a creationist on a science committee?

 

[trysail]

This is what gets me about US politics. First of all, no-one that nutty would get a high profile post over here, but we try, all the parties, try to put people on the committees that know shit. People with medical doctorates get on health committees, people with science degrees get on science committees. How the fuck do you put a creationist on a science committee?

You're positively barmy (so what else is new?)



The frickin' lights in Britain are in danger of going out because of the morons at DECC.

Ofgem says don't count on there being sufficient electricity supplies and you talk about "nutty". That's too rich for words.

The lights may stay on, but the economy may go out
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/b...s-may-stay-on-but-the-economy-may-go-out.html

Peter Atherton, the head of utilities research at UK broker Liberum Capital has issued an extraordinarily damning assessment of UK energy policy. The good news is that he reckons the lights may not go out. The bad news is that he thinks that this will be because of a "huge spike" in energy prices. This will of course extinguish much of the UK economy.

Here are a few of the highlights in the report.

UK energy policy is not plausible...

The Energy Bill ...effectively re-nationalises the investment-making decision process in the power sector. But it is not clear that policy makers yet appreciate that this also means that the risks and costs associated with these decisions must also transfer to the public.

 

[kotori]

This is what gets me about US politics. First of all, no-one that nutty would get a high profile post over here, but we try, all the parties, try to put people on the committees that know shit. People with medical doctorates get on health committees, people with science degrees get on science committees. How the fuck do you put a creationist on a science committee?

The Repubs have very wisely spent tons of cash to win state legislatures, thereby getting the chance to gerrymander the congressional districts in their favour. That's why even though Dems had over a million more votes for in their congressional races, they're still down 33 seats. Next time the Dems have to aim low to shoot high.

 

[neci]

This is what gets me about US politics. First of all, no-one that nutty would get a high profile post over here, but we try, all the parties, try to put people on the committees that know shit. People with medical doctorates get on health committees, people with science degrees get on science committees. How the fuck do you put a creationist on a science committee?

the good old boy system puts people on committees. seniority takes the buck. people are positioned for party agendas. the asswipe was probably hand chosen for that committee. everyone in washington has their role to play.

 

[Peregrinator]

Unfortunately, the Bill says this:

Yes, insane.

 

[Peregrinator]

So the global cooling debate never happened? There was no science involved?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

 

[Cade Is Here]

Hey sean I see your back posting. Are you bored posting over on all of the white supremacist forums that you are a member?

http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

 

[oggbashan]

You're positively barmy (so what else is new?)

The frickin' lights in Britain are in danger of going out because of the morons at DECC.

Ofgem says don't count on there being sufficient electricity supplies and you talk about "nutty". That's too rich for words.

UKIP, the United Kingdom Independence Party, that gave a bloody nose to all the main political parties in Thursday's local government election, is opposed to unrestricted immigration and wants the UK out of Europe.

One of the few other policies that UKIP has is that all building of wind farms, whether on or off-shore, should stop immediately and more reasonable methods of producing power should be used.

UKIP does not have power in any local government body, but the scale of the voting for them might influence the other parties to reconsider their policies on immigration, Europe and wind power.

 

[mercury14]

You're positively barmy (so what else is new?)

Why do you keep responding to people's assertions with drastic subject changes?