Woman. A sex object

[DennisB]

A woman is the epitome of sexual beauty. Every inch and curve of her body evokes thoughts of love and or lust in the viewer. Some view this as objectification of the female of the race. There are magazines devoted to a women's breasts, legs, butt, face, etc. It seems that every part of a woman is looked on as beauty. And not just from men but from other women.

Do women enjoy this role? Do women like being the object of desire? A wanting, a conquest, a prize to strive for? If women do enjoy being a form of beauty, why do some resent it? Some women do notnwant to be viewed at with awe or lust; "i am not a piece of meat on display", they claim. Is it because of the viewer or the viewee?

 

[MLT7]

A woman is the epitome of sexual beauty. Every inch and curve of her body evokes thoughts of love and or lust in the viewer. Some view this as objectification of the female of the race. There are magazines devoted to a women's breasts, legs, butt, face, etc. It seems that every part of a woman is looked on as beauty. And not just from men but from other women.

Do women enjoy this role? Do women like being the object of desire? A wanting, a conquest, a prize to strive for? If women do enjoy being a form of beauty, why do some resent it? Some women do notnwant to be viewed at with awe or lust; "i am not a piece of meat on display", they claim. Is it because of the viewer or the viewee?

As a male always wondered this. Is it sometimes hard ton get or is it true aversions

 

[davenjenn]

Of course, we love being sex objects as a game. Being treated that way from time to time is very exciting for me, especially since I love sex so much

But being treated like that all the time would be a nightmare. It's fine to be objectified and it gets me into mens' beds. But if the some guy wants to treat me like property it doesn't work. I am always clear that I like bed hopping and that tends to keep away the more possessive types.

 

[policywank]

The idea of being objectified becomes a problem when men aren’t able to see me as anything other than that object of desire.

This seems to come in two forms. The old school attitude was to associate a woman’s beauty with a lack of intelligence or personality. The less insulting but equally problematic version is to recognize that I am much more than a set of body parts but not be able to get past that level of appeal. Both lead to behaviour that ranges from insulting to just very limiting to the relationship.

I am not offended by being an object of desire. I am only offended if you can’t see me as anything more than that. And I get bored if you can’t relate to me on any other level or engage my interest in talking about other things and participating in activities not directly related to my sex appeal.

 

[davenjenn]

The idea of being objectified becomes a problem when men aren’t able to see me as anything other than that object of desire.

This seems to come in two forms. The old school attitude was to associate a woman’s beauty with a lack of intelligence or personality. The less insulting but equally problematic version is to recognize that I am much more than a set of body parts but not be able to get past that level of appeal. Both lead to behaviour that ranges from insulting to just very limiting to the relationship.

I am not offended by being an object of desire. I am only offended if you can’t see me as anything more than that. And I get bored if you can’t relate to me on any other level or engage my interest in talking about other things and participating in activities not directly related to my sex appeal.

Policywank said it better than I did!

 

[MLT7]

Of course, we love being sex objects as a game. Being treated that way from time to time is very exciting for me, especially since I love sex so much

But being treated like that all the time would be a nightmare. It's fine to be objectified and it gets me into mens' beds. But if the some guy wants to treat me like property it doesn't work. I am always clear that I like bed hopping and that tends to keep away the more possessive types.

The idea of being objectified becomes a problem when men aren’t able to see me as anything other than that object of desire.

This seems to come in two forms. The old school attitude was to associate a woman’s beauty with a lack of intelligence or personality. The less insulting but equally problematic version is to recognize that I am much more than a set of body parts but not be able to get past that level of appeal. Both lead to behaviour that ranges from insulting to just very limiting to the relationship.

I am not offended by being an object of desire. I am only offended if you can’t see me as anything more than that. And I get bored if you can’t relate to me on any other level or engage my interest in talking about other things and participating in activities not directly related to my sex appeal.

From your two points i at least feel better about myself. I know im being shallow. But i mean that when i am in a committed relationship as i am now yes there are times we both olay as being objects of the others whims. But outside of the bed room i do try to treat my wife with respect and dignity. Though i come.off as hypocritical as she does not know i am here.

 

[policywank]

There are a lot of sexual topics where women and men jump to a conclusion about the meaning of certain behaviours based on stereotype, especially if we don’t know the other person.

Building good relationships requires more thought. What is on the surface cuts both ways. All women know that guys who come off as smooth and gentlemanly sometimes turn out to be jerks. It is equally important to learn that sometimes guys who are a bit rough on the surface can be good guys.

My husband told me early on that the guys who come across like they don’t want to fuck a hot girl are just hiding it better than others. That isn’t a sufficient grounds for judging their true intent and often leads to the wrong conclusion.

 

[sunandshadow]

I generally feel dismissed and rejected because I don't look much like that perfect statue of a woman. I am a woman, it's a biological fact, but culturally I feel like men are always pushing at women to either fit that mold or gtfo.

 

[Farawyn]

The idea of being objectified becomes a problem when men aren’t able to see me as anything other than that object of desire.

This seems to come in two forms. The old school attitude was to associate a woman’s beauty with a lack of intelligence or personality. The less insulting but equally problematic version is to recognize that I am much more than a set of body parts but not be able to get past that level of appeal. Both lead to behaviour that ranges from insulting to just very limiting to the relationship.

I am not offended by being an object of desire. I am only offended if you can’t see me as anything more than that. And I get bored if you can’t relate to me on any other level or engage my interest in talking about other things and participating in activities not directly related to my sex appeal.

This.
Also, I am more likely to feel comfortable if I am putting my own sexuality out there instead of being objectified walking down the street from a stranger when I’m late for work.

I find lots of beauty in women. Inside and out. I think we are incredible as a whole. I wish we can support each other more.
I’m sick of the stereotypes.

 

[policywank]

This.
Also, I am more likely to feel comfortable if I am putting my own sexuality out there instead of being objectified walking down the street from a stranger when I’m late for work.

I find lots of beauty in women. Inside and out. I think we are incredible as a whole. I wish we can support each other more.
I’m sick of the stereotypes.

It would be great if we supported each other more. True equality won't exist until I am completely free to express my sexuality without being disrespected by men or women.

Frankly I can ignore a wold whistle more easily than having another woman tell me which aspect of my sexuality I must oppress for the good of women.

 

[Asian_Flower]

Policywank, I hope don't mind me saying this but your responses never fail to impress me. They are always accurate and very well thought out. I always take note when I see you posting. Just great!

 

[Beth87]

It’s not the lust..it’s the predatory nature of it. It’s the entitlement and the vitriol which poured if we don’t respond. “Slut, bitch, uptight, frigid” acid thrown in our faces, raped to teach us a lesson or because “women will say yes eventually” it’s the “friend zone” as though we have zero value unless we fuck you.

Girls and women get told they should be grateful for abuse.
“At least someone would look at you/fuck you”

So with all due respect, from your position you cannot see that it has zero impact whether we fancy someone or not.As though we would never say no to an attractive one.

Also so what if we aren’t grateful and flattered all the time? Sometimes you’re just not in the mood to respond at all.

 

[clistenovena]

I find lots of beauty in women. Inside and out. I think we are incredible as a whole. I wish we can support each other more.
I’m sick of the stereotypes.

This.

Stereotypes and petty, shallow competitions are the worst kinds of objectification.

 

[policywank]

It’s not the lust..it’s the predatory nature of it. It’s the entitlement and the vitriol which poured if we don’t respond. “Slut, bitch, uptight, frigid” acid thrown in our faces, raped to teach us a lesson or because “women will say yes eventually” it’s the “friend zone” as though we have zero value unless we fuck you.

Girls and women get told they should be grateful for abuse.
“At least someone would look at you/fuck you”

So with all due respect, from your position you cannot see that it has zero impact whether we fancy someone or not.As though we would never say no to an attractive one.

Also so what if we aren’t grateful and flattered all the time? Sometimes you’re just not in the mood to respond at all.

Ironically I think that this behaviour is a major constraint on men's sexual experiences.

Most women I know like good sex....a lot. It is just that sex and interaction with men around the possibility of sex is not a positive experience. Not only are guys abusive in the way you describe they are just as likely to judge us negatively for giving them what they want.

We aren't avoiding sex. We are avoiding abuse and bad sex.

If our sexuality was accepted and respected guys would get laid a lot more often.

 

[davenjenn]

Ironically I think that this behaviour is a major constraint on men's sexual experiences.

Most women I know like good sex....a lot. It is just that sex and interaction with men around the possibility of sex is not a positive experience. Not only are guys abusive in the way you describe they are just as likely to judge us negatively for giving them what they want.

We aren't avoiding sex. We are avoiding abuse and bad sex.

If our sexuality was accepted and respected guys would get laid a lot more often.

I think that if guys were taught at an early age that most women like to fuck as much as they do, more fun would be had by all.

 

[Justfantasies]

Perhaps their mothers should give them lessons

 

[policywank]

I think that if guys were taught at an early age that most women like to fuck as much as they do, more fun would be had by all.

Indeed but they would need to be taught not to associate our sexual desire with inviting disrespect and abuse

 

[MLT7]

Indeed but they would need to be taught not to associate our sexual desire with inviting disrespect and abuse

I agree because i think most guys know women want sex, but it's our inferiority that makes us think that we could never get what we want because we can't act the way the person we want wants in a prosect

 

[Farawyn]

Perhaps their mothers should give them lessons

How?

Our mothers were likely more oppressed than women today.

 

[policywank]

Policywank, I hope don't mind me saying this but your responses never fail to impress me. They are always accurate and very well thought out. I always take note when I see you posting. Just great!

I don’t mind a bit. Thank you very much.

 

[bsanchez2100]

I generally feel dismissed and rejected because I don't look much like that perfect statue of a woman. I am a woman, it's a biological fact, but culturally I feel like men are always pushing at women to either fit that mold or gtfo.

My apologies for being late to the thread. It is true that the value of a woman (or anyone) should be more than just their appearance. And beauty comes in far more forms than that hawked by the American "beauty" industry.

That said, I have seen you, sunandshadow, and there's at least one person (and likely more), who think you're quite lovely!

 

[Bottoms]

Policywank, I hope don't mind me saying this but your responses never fail to impress me. They are always accurate and very well thought out. I always take note when I see you posting. Just great!

I'll second that.

 

[Chuck Darwin]

Overall, the problem is that most men are dumb, and don't know how to act when they see a beautiful woman.

 

[Farawyn]

Overall, the problem is that most men are dumb, and don't know how to act when they see a beautiful woman.

Evolve.

 

[Chuck Darwin]

Evolve.

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