Winona

[Peter2002]

The California shop lifting case has certainly generated a lot of headlines, but I've searched in vain on the web for any fantasy celeb stories about what punishment she might deserve if found guilty or if she agree to it she wouldn't have come to trial. Any takers out there. I don't think I'd do a good job or I'd try it myself.

Hey, if not a story I'd bet the movie would do boffo box office. Think of it as a more sizzling "Secretary".

 

[sirhugs]

Poor Winona

Peter:

I think the "bashing" stories get saved for the relentless selfpromoting overacheiving undertalents ( Britney , you say?). Winona on the other hand is so pitiful, even without this latest tragedy, that a hostile story now would seem like piling on.

Similarily, the O.J. tragedy seemed not to generate stories. Some things just aren't sexy.

There are at least 2 stories on Lit about Winona- one sympathetic, the other portraying her as employed by the 'Famous Whores Gangbang Club '.

Lets hope she gets past this, learns from it, and resumes the promise she showed in 'Heathers'. Now there , she was sexy.

 

[Carlos 74]

I feel kinda bad for Winona. She seems like a bit of a sad-sack, or maybe that's just when she always plays in her movies. She's always vulnerable, and I like that about her. I think that's why I would enjoy pumping her mercilessly.

 

[sirhugs]

I feel kinda bad for Winona. She seems like a bit of a sad-sack, or maybe that's just when she always plays in her movies. She's always vulnerable, and I like that about her. I think that's why I would enjoy pumping her mercilessly.

I didn't find her in the least vulnerable in " Alien resurrection, nor sexy for that matter. The very thought of cyborg sex seems rather , well, mechanical. And she seemed, in that movie, to be a"Black widow " sort of character- fuck you blind, suck the marrow from your bones *shudder*.

Loved her in Heathers though!

 

[Peter2002]

Good points.

You're right about Heathers.

 

[sirhugs]

at least the publicity is helping her career, according to imdb.com, she's inundated with offers. Not bad for an actress so unreliable Francis Ford Coppola fired her.

 

[NASCARaddicted]

so, just to get back to the topic (I think the topic is a story idea ?)

Winona is caught while she is shop lifting. So, the clerk (or whoever catches her) offers her something: I will hand you over to the police ... unless, you have sex with me ...

I heard thinks like this pretty often (but not with celebrities). A greasy clerk catches a female shoplifter and blackmails her. Just recently, I heard of this one case, where a guy blackmailed several female shoplifters into sex ... one girl was just 15 years old ...

So maybe, this guy trys to blackmail Winona, too ....

 

[sirhugs]

I like Nas' idea better than the first post, but would still prefer a supportive story....

 

[sirhugs]

Newsflash- Winona convicted !

so, where does that leave us on stories about her?

 

[tripleflip]

Newsflash- Winona convicted !

so, where does that leave us on stories about her?

Nada problem. A really good fiction writer is, first of all, a good liar. Now, a liar is not someone who doesn't know what the truth is. THAT person is a FOOL, not a liar. A liar knows more about truth than truthful people. Even a fool can be truthful by accident, but a liar always knows what the truth is. He is trying to manipulate or conceal it. It's tough to manipulate or conceal what you don't understand.

A good writer strives for "verisimilitude." This is a fifty-cent word which means "The appearance of being true or real." A good writer is not troubled by facts. Useful facts are used, useless facts are concealed. Bingo!

Anyway, a story about Winona doesn't need to be damaged by the fact of her conviction. I heard on the radio that the sentencing hearing is coming up. Maybe she will have to do community service, maybe a special KIND of "community service." Maybe she gets sent to jail and winds up doing ANOTHER kind of "community service." Maybe she gets off this time, and then does it again, and the last experience was so bad she'll do ANYTHING to keep from being arrested again. I could go on and on and on.

Bottom line: It is, or by right OUGHT to be, a STORY, not a news report. Go nutz!

 

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Nada problem. A really good fiction writer is, first of all, a good liar. Now, a liar is not someone who doesn't know what the truth is. THAT person is a FOOL, not a liar. A liar knows more about truth than truthful people. Even a fool can be truthful by accident, but a liar always knows what the truth is. He is trying to manipulate or conceal it. It's tough to manipulate or conceal what you don't understand.

A good writer strives for "verisimilitude." This is a fifty-cent word which means "The appearance of being true or real." A good writer is not troubled by facts. Useful facts are used, useless facts are concealed. Bingo!

Anyway, a story about Winona doesn't need to be damaged by the fact of her conviction. I heard on the radio that the sentencing hearing is coming up. Maybe she will have to do community service, maybe a special KIND of "community service." Maybe she gets sent to jail and winds up doing ANOTHER kind of "community service." Maybe she gets off this time, and then does it again, and the last experience was so bad she'll do ANYTHING to keep from being arrested again. I could go on and on and on.

Bottom line: It is, or by right OUGHT to be, a STORY, not a news report. Go nutz!

yoday's upadte is the prosecuter isn't asking for jail, but rather community service. So, I like Tripleflip's idea that W gets a special KIND of service.

Anyone up to write it?

 

[MsLinnet]

at least the publicity is helping her career, according to imdb.com, she's inundated with offers. Not bad for an actress so unreliable Francis Ford Coppola fired her.

I am with you on this, but if it was you or I we would be banged up with no agument.

Love Linnet

 

[sirhugs]

I am with you on this, but if it was you or I we would be banged up with no agument.

Love Linnet

actually not. most 'first offence ' shoplifters ( who always offend many times before they get first conviction), will get community service, or mandatory counselling.

I think you just want to be W's "punisher", MsL. Maybe you should write a fantasy story where you are asigned that task, or as her house warden during a house arrest.

 

[Peter2002]

Go to it

I was hoping someone would.

 

[Criswell]

I think the material's just ripe for a good "Women in Prison" story. Granted, Winona probably won't end up serving jail time, but we can imagine...

 

[Dan Wanpeter]

Public Address Announcement:

........"Winona Ryder..........please report to the Headmaster's Office immediately!"

 

[NASCARaddicted]

well, here in Germany, there is this tv series, running since about 5 years "Hinter Gittern" (="behind bars"). The whole series takes place in a female prison.

Of course, the authors have many more or less realistic fantasies. Like, there is a lesbian couple .... one of the other inmates got pregnant by a warden (that was consent sex), while another warden raped one of the lesbians (the lesbian was always a dominant character) to humiliate her and to break her will ....

another story line from the tv series: there was this (ex-)prostitute (Mona). From time to time, she had sex with one warden - after he paid for it.
to make things worse: there was this young drug addict girl. She needed some drugs - and Mona sold drugs. In the beginning, Mona got the drugs, after she had sex with a dealer who visited her in prison. But she told the young drug addict girl, that now it's her turn. So the drug addict had to became a prostitute, too (against her will).
To make things worse: Some time later, Mona found out that the drug addicted prostitute was her own, long lost daughter .... (I guess this shows how crazy some of this tv authors are)

 

[Monazwx]

The female version of Oz hmmm.
It sounded interesting up until the mother/daughter thing.
Can the plot be any more sensational?

Any story on Winona right now would be so predictable.
Any spin would be appreciated.
Maybe the community service can turn into something.

 

[Dan Wanpeter]

Creative sentencing

Have Winona invite women from battered womens' shelter, who had to leave in a hurry to save life and kids, to come to her house and select what they need from her wardrobe (without paying)

Most important of all........it is plain she needs a good therapist and medication to get to the source of her compulsive behavior; she obviously can pay for what she wants........she steals for the same reasons I used to drink! There is hope if she gets help but sadly I doubt she will get it unless Judge makes it mandatory AND she decides to get well (Sober & happy 6 yrs now!)

So, Winona, get well.........it is better than sick!

 

[Dan Wanpeter]

Creative sentencing

Have Winona invite women from battered womens' shelter, who had to leave in a hurry to save life and kids, to come to her house and select what they need from her wardrobe (without paying)

Most important of all........it is plain she needs a good therapist and medication to get to the source of her compulsive behavior; she obviously can pay for what she wants........she steals for the same reasons I used to drink! There is hope if she gets help but sadly I doubt she will get it unless Judge makes it mandatory AND she decides to get well (Sober & happy 6 yrs now!)

So, Winona, get well.........it is better than sick!

 

[MsLinnet]

actually not. most 'first offence ' shoplifters ( who always offend many times before they get first conviction), will get community service, or mandatory counselling.

I think you just want to be W's "punisher", MsL. Maybe you should write a fantasy story where you are asigned that task, or as her house warden during a house arrest.

Hi Sir H
I did write a story about this but in my story she went to jail. When I submitted it was rejected so I changed the name to Jessica Gay and resubmitted it and its there. I had intended to write another chapter but I never got around to it.

As regard first offence with the amount of money involved I think an ordinary person would have been locked up. Isn’t justice grand?

Love Always Lin

 

[sirhugs]

nice story , Lin, I gave it a "5". I'd still love to read the " community service" version if someone would attempt that.

 

[MsLinnet]

nice story , Lin, I gave it a "5". I'd still love to read the " community service" version if someone would attempt that.

Thanks for the ego boost I have looked at the idea but i am not up on the usa's system so i would run into problems i think.

love Lin

 

[sirhugs]

Lin:

no particular magic - its just part of probation- instead of jail you dp court ordered volunteer work- a set # of hours. It might be related to the crime- a drunk driver lecturing to driver's ed classes- or general- volunteeering at a soup kitchen.

The winona thing might work well with a version of Dan's idea- like have winona working sorting clothes at a Thrift store- its just the setting that leads to some sex.

Go for it.

I would, but lack time and female POV

 

[MsLinnet]

Lin:

no particular magic - its just part of probation- instead of jail you dp court ordered volunteer work- a set # of hours. It might be related to the crime- a drunk driver lecturing to driver's ed classes- or general- volunteeering at a soup kitchen.

The winona thing might work well with a version of Dan's idea- like have winona working sorting clothes at a Thrift store- its just the setting that leads to some sex.

Go for it.

I would, but lack time and female POV

It sounds like a good idea, but i would have her in a soup kitchen helping the down and outs changing there clothes and helping them to shower and with personal hygine duing this she gets involved ofering more in the way of personal service.