Will We strike Fordo? Update: We did

BiBi will have to tell Trump what his plans are to be going forward.
If anything, Bibi had to keep up with Trump’s speed of thought and action, not the other way around. Trump doesn’t take orders. He gives them, ignores them, or rewrites them with a Sharpie. The only people who believe otherwise are the ones still trying to explain foreign policy with bumper stickers and MSNBC talking points. Trump is the man who redefined unpredictability in foreign policy, brokered historic Middle East deals, moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and told the foreign policy establishment to pound sand as far as the Middle East is concerned. All of which has popped your reality bubble and forced you into denial...again.
 
If anything, Bibi had to keep up with Trump’s speed of thought and action, not the other way around. Trump doesn’t take orders. He gives them, ignores them, or rewrites them with a Sharpie. The only people who believe otherwise are the ones still trying to explain foreign policy with bumper stickers and MSNBC talking points. Trump is the man who redefined unpredictability in foreign policy, brokered historic Middle East deals, moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and told the foreign policy establishment to pound sand as far as the Middle East is concerned. All of which has popped your reality bubble and forced you into denial...again.
Trump rewrites history. BiBi will let him lie....it all works.
 
The reality today is that the bombs have done their job, so not a lot of benefit in agonizing over that fact. But what is the end game, the final objective, for Israel for the USA for the Iranians and the Moslem world. The immediate military result is obvious but the political objectives seem as unclear and diverse as ever.
 
The reality today is that the bombs have done their job, so not a lot of benefit in agonizing over that fact. But what is the end game, the final objective, for Israel for the USA for the Iranians and the Moslem world. The immediate military result is obvious but the political objectives seem as unclear and diverse as ever.
Trump is thinking like the MAGAts did when they voted for him: He has no idea what might come next, he just wanted to shake things up.
 
Here is the difference between me and trump. I would have given Iran some nukes and said, OK Camel Jockey what are you going to do now. Iran is surrounded by countries with nukes. Fucking Pakistan has nukes.
 
The reality today is that the bombs have done their job, so not a lot of benefit in agonizing over that fact. But what is the end game, the final objective, for Israel for the USA for the Iranians and the Moslem world. The immediate military result is obvious but the political objectives seem as unclear and diverse as ever.
Too early for sure. Everyone is jockeying for their agenda. The more time I think about the last few decades, the more I think this was the only result to come.

Reminds me of a Nostradamus TV show when I was a kid talking about a middle east leader as the next "evil"
 
You are an idiot.
And your stance that is so anti Trump proves to me that YOU want to see Hamas with nukes. That YOU want to see Hezbollah with nukes. That YOU want the Houthies with nukes, too. Any comment made against your ultra left wing ideal is met with the same 4 word standard statement.
 
And your stance that is so anti Trump proves to me that YOU want to see Hamas with nukes. That YOU want to see Hezbollah with nukes. That YOU want the Houthies with nukes, too. Any comment made against your ultra left wing ideal is met with the same 4 word standard statement.
No, and I don't want to see Israel with nukes either. If the USG ever gets definite proof of Israeli nuclear capability, we should pound Tel Aviv as flat as Gaza City.
 
No, and I don't want to see Israel with nukes either. If the USG ever gets definite proof of Israeli nuclear capability, we should pound Tel Aviv as flat as Gaza City.
So, if I'm understanding your convoluted reasoning, you are equating our staunchest ally having a nuke (which I'm fairly certain they do) with the world's largest supporter of terrorism having a nuke?
 
So, if I'm understanding your convoluted reasoning, you are equating our staunchest ally having a nuke (which I'm fairly certain they do) with the world's largest supporter of terrorism having a nuke?
Because Israel is more likely than any other power to use nuclear weapons. It might use them if its existence is ever seriously threatened -- and that is a situation that might manifest at any time -- and that might lead to a global nuclear war by any number of conceivable routes.
 
Because Israel is more likely than any other power to use nuclear weapons.
No it isn't

It might use them if its existence is ever seriously threatened -- and that is a situation that might manifest at any time -- and that might lead to a global nuclear war by any number of conceivable routes.
You're an idiot
 
Because Israel is more likely than any other power to use nuclear weapons. It might use them if its existence is ever seriously threatened -- and that is a situation that might manifest at any time -- and that might lead to a global nuclear war by any number of conceivable routes.
If you pay attention to history, Israel's very existence has been threatened for nearly 5,000 years without any perceivable breaks. Israelis and Jews around the world have lived with this threat our entire lives. My wife and I have neighbors who have vocally expressed the idea of our 1,524 unit development become a Christian enclave. That's our reality.
 
This bombing was no show of strength!
Silly person. Nothing says military might like giant craters and ashes settling back to Earth.

It was a show of strength—maybe not by the guy who said it was magnificent, but by looking at the aftermath post-op photos.
 
The silence from the Lit loons is deafening. OP-SEC was flawless, PERFECT!!!
Not quite. The quads dressed in blue suits to make the announcement of the perfect execution. JD Vance was the one out of uniform. His tie was blue, while everyone else wore a red tie; everyone got the blue suit right for the evening.

Reminded me of the antics of Trump's congressional supporters all dressed alike at his NY trial. :nana:
 
If anything, Bibi had to keep up with Trump’s speed of thought and action, not the other way around. Trump doesn’t take orders. He gives them, ignores them, or rewrites them with a Sharpie. The only people who believe otherwise are the ones still trying to explain foreign policy with bumper stickers and MSNBC talking points. Trump is the man who redefined unpredictability in foreign policy, brokered historic Middle East deals, moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and told the foreign policy establishment to pound sand as far as the Middle East is concerned. All of which has popped your reality bubble and forced you into denial...again.
... still can't handle an umbrella getting into Air Force One, not to mention how to tariff anyone. Have the penguins started paying their tariff yet?

Remind me how he got dubbed TACO, again?
 
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