Wikileaked emails - what is the worst?

[BoyNextDoor]

I can't find anything that is a big deal.

We need a Catholic Spring? meh.

We should (have) bomb Iran's nuclear facilities? *shrug* She is a war hawk.

No wonder they are not getting a lot of air time. So spout away about all the bad stuff the news media in the US is refusing to talk about because of the vast conspiracy against Trump because I can't find it.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

I can't find anything that is a big deal.

We need a Catholic Spring? meh.

We should (have) bomb Iran's nuclear facilities? *shrug* She is a war hawk.

No wonder they are not getting a lot of air time. So spout away about all the bad stuff the news media in the US is refusing to talk about because of the vast conspiracy against Trump because I can't find it.

did you read the one about her liking Superman v. Batman bro?

Stew

 

[OldJourno]

I think the emails where advisors note her contempt for regular folks would be harmful if they were reported.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

did you read the one about her liking Superman v. Batman bro?

Stew

See that is the kind of stuff we should be talking about. Trump liked Green Lantern, the cunt.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

I think the emails where advisors note her contempt for regular folks would be harmful if they were reported.

wait, does that mean she's not going to co-sign on my loan bro?

Stew

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I think the emails where advisors note her contempt for regular folks would be harmful if they were reported.

Great. Got a link to the emails that show her contempt for regular folks? I see articles that make that statement but talk about the Catholic Spring stuff. Can you find the original emails?

 

[Setanta84]

These are some that are major revelations in the emails so far:

1) The level of collusion between the major media outlets and the Clinton campaign. If you don't think being shown hard proof that the Clinton campaign is running its own press coverage is scandalous, you have a weird definition of scandal. (It's also the real reason the MSM is doing everything it can to dissuade the audience from reading the material and both downplaying what it contains and calling its authenticity into question.)

2) The fact that the Clinton campaign is aware that the Clinton Foundation can't back up the claims about its work and engages in financial impropriety. That's a major story.

3) It makes it clear she wants to give what's left of the social safety net to Wall St. That's a major story.

4) They explicitly encourage their financial team to play fast and loose with what is left of basic campaign finance law in this country and let them deal with the fallout later. That's a major story.

5) It shows that Donna Brazile was using her position at CNN to give Clinton unfair advantages in the debates. Given she's the current head of the DNC and it's a major violation of ethics both for a person working for a news organization and a big no no for a person in a party leadership role to directly interfere in the primary, it's a major story.

6) It provides compelling concrete evidence that Clinton coordinated with her super PACs. That's a major story.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

These are some that are major revelations in the emails so far:

1) The level of collusion between the major media outlets and the Clinton campaign. If you don't think being shown hard proof that the Clinton campaign is running its own press coverage is scandalous, you have a weird definition of scandal. (It's also the real reason the MSM is doing everything it can to dissuade the audience from reading the material and both downplaying what it contains and calling its authenticity into question.)

2) The fact that the Clinton campaign is aware that the Clinton Foundation can't back up the claims about its work and engages in financial impropriety. That's a major story.

3) It makes it clear she wants to give what's left of the social safety net to Wall St. That's a major story.

4) They explicitly encourage their financial team to play fast and loose with what is left of basic campaign finance law in this country and let them deal with the fallout later. That's a major story.

5) It shows that Donna Brazile was using her position at CNN to give Clinton unfair advantages in the debates. Given she's the current head of the DNC and it's a major violation of ethics both for a person working for a news organization and a big no no for a person in a party leadership role to directly interfere in the primary, it's a major story.

6) It provides compelling concrete evidence that Clinton coordinated with her super PACs. That's a major story.

did those come from Wikileaks or Alex Jones bro?

Stew

 

[BoyNextDoor]

These are some that are major revelations in the emails so far:

1) The level of collusion between the major media outlets and the Clinton campaign. If you don't think being shown hard proof that the Clinton campaign is running its own press coverage is scandalous, you have a weird definition of scandal. (It's also the real reason the MSM is doing everything it can to dissuade the audience from reading the material and both downplaying what it contains and calling its authenticity into question.)

2) The fact that the Clinton campaign is aware that the Clinton Foundation can't back up the claims about its work and engages in financial impropriety. That's a major story.

3) It makes it clear she wants to give what's left of the social safety net to Wall St. That's a major story.

4) They explicitly encourage their financial team to play fast and loose with what is left of basic campaign finance law in this country and let them deal with the fallout later. That's a major story.

5) It shows that Donna Brazile was using her position at CNN to give Clinton unfair advantages in the debates. Given she's the current head of the DNC and it's a major violation of ethics both for a person working for a news organization and a big no no for a person in a party leadership role to directly interfere in the primary, it's a major story.

6) It provides compelling concrete evidence that Clinton coordinated with her super PACs. That's a major story.

So, just one link to one email that does/says/implicates/shows any of this. I have been trying to find them but can't.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

did you read the one about her liking Superman v. Batman bro?

Stew

the the worst part is that you and your kind are fucking retarded and refuse to see the truth.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

the the worst part is that you and your kind are fucking retarded and refuse to see the truth.

you do realize that I am a parody right? so much for your retard insult bro.

Stew

 

[AngeloMichael]

WikiHillary for President

Thank God for WikiLeaks.

I confess, I was starting to wonder about what the real Hillary Clinton — the one you never get to see behind closed doors — really stood for. But now that, thanks to WikiLeaks, I’ve had a chance to peruse her speeches to Goldman Sachs and other banks, I am more convinced than ever she can be the president America needs today.

Seriously, those speeches are great! They show someone with a vision, a pragmatic approach to getting things done and a healthy instinct for balancing the need to strengthen our social safety nets with unleashing America’s business class to create the growth required to sustain social programs.

So thank you, Vladimir Putin, for revealing how Hillary really hopes to govern. I just wish more of that Hillary were campaigning right now and building a mandate for what she really believes.

WikiHillary? I’m with her.

 

[Bray123]

These are some that are major revelations in the emails so far:

1) The level of collusion between the major media outlets and the Clinton campaign. If you don't think being shown hard proof that the Clinton campaign is running its own press coverage is scandalous, you have a weird definition of scandal. (It's also the real reason the MSM is doing everything it can to dissuade the audience from reading the material and both downplaying what it contains and calling its authenticity into question.)

2) The fact that the Clinton campaign is aware that the Clinton Foundation can't back up the claims about its work and engages in financial impropriety. That's a major story.

3) It makes it clear she wants to give what's left of the social safety net to Wall St. That's a major story.

4) They explicitly encourage their financial team to play fast and loose with what is left of basic campaign finance law in this country and let them deal with the fallout later. That's a major story.

5) It shows that Donna Brazile was using her position at CNN to give Clinton unfair advantages in the debates. Given she's the current head of the DNC and it's a major violation of ethics both for a person working for a news organization and a big no no for a person in a party leadership role to directly interfere in the primary, it's a major story.

6) It provides compelling concrete evidence that Clinton coordinated with her super PACs. That's a major story.

As an outsider:
1) I see Fox news regularly (the European version, not necessarily the same programming that the USA gets). It's astonishingly biased towards Trump and hateful to Clinton. Several of the presenters seem to be senior members of the Republican party and there's no attempt at balance. Therefore if another network is biased to Clinton there's not much to complain about.

The other points seem to be variations of 'Clinton's campaign is controlling her campaign'. From what I see in the meticulously balanced UK reporting - and in many forums of the interwebs - Trump's campaign is much more poisonous than hers.

In the debates, Trump has been given unlimited interruptions which would never be allowed in a UK debate; he just shouts down any points that she makes. I didn't see any sign that she was given support beyond anything.

There's not actually much of significance in the emails otherwise the web would be screaming about it. The silence is deafening.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What could she do that would make you not vote for her?

I don't think there is ANYTHING she could do that would change your fandom of the Goldman Sachs candidate.

She could have murdered Sanders personally, intentionally deleted emails that should have gone to the FBI, she really could have done any heinous acts of total racism/sexism and not 1 fuck would be given.

(D) winning is all that matters.

Enjoy another Wall St. POTUS...THIS one will is really with you!!!

 

[eyerlives]

It's so crazy great that boynextdoor00 still has his fuck-other-guys'-wives-behind-their-backs head so far up socialist Bernie's collective ass that even he has to admit he refuses to see any of the Billary trees sticking in other peoples eyes.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I can't find anything that is a big deal.

We need a Catholic Spring? meh.

We should (have) bomb Iran's nuclear facilities? *shrug* She is a war hawk.

No wonder they are not getting a lot of air time. So spout away about all the bad stuff the news media in the US is refusing to talk about because of the vast conspiracy against Trump because I can't find it.

Catholic Spring = meh?

The idea that member(s) of our government would actively attempt to menace with (if not destroy) a religion should make you sick to your stomach. Catholicism, Shintoism, Satanism... it doesn't matter. They admitted to meddling with the First Amendment.

 

[Setanta84]

So, just one link to one email that does/says/implicates/shows any of this. I have been trying to find them but can't.

This isn't an exhaustive list--it focuses mainly on the purely political side of the revelations--but it is a handy digest of the leaks and their coverage when it comes to the things like Brazile and the influence of money and does source out some of the claims in the quote.

Really, if you browse Wikileaks' twitter feed or follow independent journalists on social media, finding a decent curation of the material isn't hard.

ETA: This is a pretty direct example of super PAC coordination.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Catholic Spring = meh?

The idea that member(s) of our government would actively attempt to menace with (if not destroy) a religion should make you sick to your stomach. Catholicism, Shintoism, Satanism... it doesn't matter. They admitted to meddling with the First Amendment.

Oppressing people and shitting on their rights is good as long as it's (D)'s doing it.

 

[phrodeau]

Denying employees access to the birth control of their choice is OK as long as Catholics do it.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Catholic Spring = meh?

The idea that member(s) of our government would actively attempt to menace with (if not destroy) a religion should make you sick to your stomach. Catholicism, Shintoism, Satanism... it doesn't matter. They admitted to meddling with the First Amendment.

That is absolutely not what the email say about a Catholic Spring. I found those and posted them here. They actually say the opposite.

ETA

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church,”

“Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc.,” he wrote. “Even if the idea isn’t crazy, I don’t qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about how one would ‘plant the seeds of the revolution,’ or who would plant them.”

- Sandy Newman, president of Voices for Progress in an email to Podesta

 

[BotanyBoy]

Denying employees access to the birth control of their choice is OK as long as Catholics do it.

Where have Catholics denied employees access to the birth control of their choice?



You're so full of shit I bet you can't show a SINGLE instance of Catholics prevented or even attempted to prevent women from obtaining the birth control of their choice at any pharmacy of their choice.

 

[Setanta84]

Where have Catholics denied employees access to the birth control of their choice?



You're so full of shit I bet you can't show a SINGLE instance of Catholics prevented or even attempted to prevent women from obtaining the birth control of their choice at any pharmacy of their choice.

Uh, dude, do you not follow the lobbying efforts of the Catholic Church? They lobby for these types of exemptions all the time and have won significant concessions on this issue.

 

[Liar]

That is absolutely not what the email say about a Catholic Spring. I found those and posted them here. They actually say the opposite.

ETA

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church,”

“Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc.,” he wrote. “Even if the idea isn’t crazy, I don’t qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about how one would ‘plant the seeds of the revolution,’ or who would plant them.”

- Sandy Newman, president of Voices for Progress in an email to Podesta

So... Somebody said a thing about Catholics in an email to team Clinton. Does any email suggest team Clinton agrees?

Just checkin'

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Where have Catholics denied employees access to the birth control of their choice?



You're so full of shit I bet you can't show a SINGLE instance of Catholics prevented or even attempted to prevent women from obtaining the birth control of their choice at any pharmacy of their choice.

Here is the list in the lawsuit against ACA and providing birth control . Made it easier for you to read:

Belmont Abbey College
Wheaton College
Roman Catholic Archbishop of Washington
Priests for Life
Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York
Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, et al.
Louisiana College
Roman Catholic Diocese of Fort Worth
Roman Catholic Diocese of Biloxi
East Texas Baptist University
Catholic Diocese of Beaumont
Michigan Catholic Conference
Right to Life of Michigan
Catholic Diocese of Nashville
Ave Maria Foundation
Union University
University of Notre Dame
Catholic Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend
Grace Schools
Archdiocese of St. Louis
School of the Ozarks
Dordt College
Colorado Christian University
Southern Nazarene University
Little Sisters of the Poor
Reaching Souls International
Fellowship of Catholic University Students
Diocese of Cheyenne
Eternal World Television Network
Ave Maria University
Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Atlanta
Persico (Roman Catholic Diocese of Erie, Pennsylvania)
Zubik (Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
Brandt (Roman Catholic Diocese of Greensburg, Pennsylvania)
James Dobson (Family Talk radio show and ministry)
Ave Maria School of Law


Bonus: Churches sue over Massachusetts transgender bathroom law

 

[BoyNextDoor]

So... Somebody said a thing about Catholics in an email to team Clinton. Does any email suggest team Clinton agrees?

Not that I can find. And I have been looking for what these emails say for a couple of days. Not turning up a lot.