Why??

[mike5050]

Why do people who leave negative feedback on stories always post as ANONYMOUS??

 

[Swilly]

Why do people who leave negative feedback on stories always post as ANONYMOUS??

My guess is so that they don't want someone going to their stories and doing the same thing. Some people even get insulted by constructive criticism. Some people are nasty just to be nasty, and some have ulterior motives. I've read this site for years, but until I submitted some stories, I had no idea about the crap that went on behind the scenes between authors.

 

[CWatson]

Because they know they have something to hide. Even though their comment reveals that thing, which is that they are being negative for the sake of negativity and have nothing useful to contribute. They're just being assholes because they can be.

 

[sr71plt]

Sorry, but their negative comment could be spot on even if they post as anonymous. They just don't want to get involved in knock back in any form. The reason doesn't always have to be an evil one. They could be absolutely right in what they post.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Maybe they dont want AH posters to harass them with PMs and email.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

One of the reasons others may post as Any mouse is even a positive comment can receive retribution in the form of receiving 1 * votes on all of your stories. Yes, we do have a bunch of adults (age wise) who act like a bunch of 5 year olds who frequent Lit.

The low votes may not come from the original author but from other posters. Not much you can do to prevent such childish behavior other than top post as anonymous.

MK

 

[2981notrohrm]

Some do it because they're too lazy to log into their account, I'm sure, although it does seem that most of the negative feedback (of the non-constructive variety, anyway) I see is from anonymous posters.

There's a huge difference between a well-thought-out criticism and a negative rant, just as there's a difference between "I don't like this part of the story, and here's why" versus "ur story iz shitt y do u rite u suck go fuck ur self."

 

[lovecraft68]

They do it cause they can and it empowers them especially when you remove it or start a thread like this.

This is exactly what they want.

Just ignore them, either leave it there (which IMO shows them you could care less) or if it bothers you remove it, but don't let it get to you. You're supposed to be having fun here, remember?

 

[sr71plt]

Again, not all anonymous comments are either malicious or bad--as in inaccurate. Not wanting knock back is a legitimate reason for posting as anonymous. And as many post praise comments as anonymous as those who post negative anonymous comments.

 

[lovecraft68]

Again, not all anonymous comments are either malicious or bad--as in inaccurate. Not wanting knock back is a legitimate reason for posting as anonymous. And as many post praise comments as anonymous as those who post negative anonymous comments.

I get your point, but from what I have seen here(not so much in the forum, but site wide) is that a "negative" comment is anything that so much as says, "Good story, but....

Once there is a but it is now perceived as negative(not by all, but many) and it is now an anymouse picking on them.

The authors that remove comments that are not rude or nasty, but simply offering constructive criticism or even trying to give a couple of pointers, to me have no desire to become better authors and are here for the "You're the best ever"

The writers that can see constructive feedback for what it is and not get in a snit about it is someone looking to improve.

I(and I stress I, this is my opinion only) have no respect for authors who only leave up the glowing remarks and get rid of anything that contradicts their place as the most awesome author here.

 

[sr71plt]

The authors that remove comments that are not rude or nasty, but simply offering constructive criticism or even trying to give a couple of pointers, to me have no desire to become better authors and are here for the "You're the best ever"

That's true. But a desire to become a better author isn't a requirement for posting a story at Literotica. And those who go ballistic over not understanding the intent of the Web site in this regard and then act out on that are no better than the nastiest of the anonymous posters.

And a high percentage of those giving such "guidance" have no knowledge to be giving the guidance anyway.

 

[lovecraft68]

That's true. But a desire to become a better author isn't a requirement for posting a story at Literotica. And those who go ballistic over not understanding the intent of the Web site in this regard and then act out on that are no better than the nastiest of the anonymous posters.

And a high percentage of those giving such "guidance" have no knowledge to be giving the guidance anyway.

It's not a site requirement at all.

It's a personal requirement in a way. You as the author decide why you came here and what you're looking for.

From what I gather you were already writing and publishing for a long time and came here to try to gain a bigger fan base.

For me I was just starting and looking to see what people thought of stuff, that up until that time only my wife had read.

On my first story someone remarked, "man, do you know what a comma is?"

Know what? he was right, my grammar was terrible. It is still not perfect by any means and I do pay someone for my for sale stuff, but I have improved dramatically and its because when I got "good story but..."

I took into consideration what they were saying.

As for qualifications what people do or don't off of lit is not really of bearing here. Here this is a level playing field. Whether established writer or newbie we are all writing for free here and to the same audience.

And as I think I have said to you before, No one needs a degree to say "Hey check your spelling" or "It should be Their, not there" most of the comments here are not about "higher grammar" much of it is basic and anyone that can read can point those things out.

People also know what they like or dislike and the author has to know that is subjective. A story you read that you think sucks, could be my favorite.

I feel there are way too many whiny threads about the trolls. If you think you can learn from a remark do so, if not ignore it and move on.

I'm starting to feel the trolls are becoming excuses and crutches to some people.

 

[sr71plt]

It's a personal requirement in a way.

No it's not. You need to stop worrying about other writers and what their motivations and "requirements" are and stick to your own business.

This is a reading site, not a critique site. You can't assume that when writers leave voting and comments on that they are inviting critique--its legitimate if they only want to connect with those who like and identify with what they've posted. Critique is what the Story Feedback forum is for--when the author directly asks for help. When you are assuming that the author has to be asking for critique--and get huffy when your comments are either ignored or erased (which the Web site empowers authors to do for whatever reason they have) then it's more about you and your needs to puff yourself up than it is about what you are criticizing and assuming that the author has a responsibility to entertain.

(The "you" of the first paragraph is, yes, you directly, LC. The "you" of the second paragraph is generic.)

 

[lovecraft68]

No it's not. You need to stop worrying about other writers and what their motivations and "requirements" are and stick to your own business.

My opinion is my business and if people did not come here looking for opinions there would be some pretty empty threads here.

And damn straight the writer, and the writer alone, decides what is required of themselves here. Could be improvement, could be fun or anything else, everyone comes here for a reason and that reason dictates what you will take from here.

No one has to agree with me.

And I'm not picking a fight with you.

But you're the one that needs to stop worrying about what people want here and who they want to listen or not listen too.

But if you took your won advice and left people to their opinions then you wouldn't get to say "But I'm a professional vetted editor!" Three dozen times a month.

If you were minding your business you wouldn't care what they thought of you or your advice.

Minding your own business would also include no longer saying "no one here is qualified to give advice anyway"

Look in the mirror before you post next time.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I DONT GET NO RESPECT, Rodney PILOT Dangerfield

 

[lovecraft68]

I DONT GET NO RESPECT, Rodney PILOT Dangerfield

Like my old man said: "Respect isn't given, its earned."

I think Pilot gets what he has earned here.

 

[sr71plt]

Like my old man said: "Respect isn't given, its earned."

I think Pilot gets what he has earned here.

Thanks. So you must have been keeping track of the blind FAWC exercise that you didn't join in. I thought I came out of that great. I know I'm going to cite the thread on that the next time you post on the forum that I write only GM or that what I write is crap--and you can count on that.

Maybe you'll have the courage to risk participating in the next blind judging exercise.

 

[Hitman7]

You will always have a hater in this world, in one form or another.


Too good? They call you a pussy.

Too evil? They call you heartless.

Too smart? They call you a nerd/geek/virgin.

Too stupid? Well... they call you stupid.

Too pretty/hot/sexy? They call you a slut.

Too ugly? They call you ugly.

Too rich? They call you a mobster/crime lord or Mister/Miss Inherited-It-From-Parents

Too poor? They call you a bum.


Some are just man/woman enough to tell you straight to the face. Others meanwhile do it behind your back or hide under the veil of anonymity.

My point is, if you want to become a good writer, then you have to accept the fact that you won't be able to please anyone. And even if you try, you still won't.

So be a man/woman and stop whining about the haters. Just write...

 

[sr71plt]

My favorite on this forum is "arrogant":

The Literotica definition of "arrogance": A word of abuse and derision to be leveled at someone who has been shown to know more about a specific issue or topic than you are pretending to know.

 

[sethp]

Just delete them if they are to ignorant or hateful, and then forget them. You have to have thick skin to be an Internet porn king with feedback allowed on your stories. I leave most of my negative comments up.

 

[mike5050]

Constructive is OK

I don't mind constructive feedback but some of it is childish, nasty and obviously sent by nothing more than brain dead, immature morons, I've read this site for a long time and some good stories, I won't be bothering to write anything else now because of what obviously goes on behind the scenes, all the ANONYMOUS people out there if you want to leave comments such as "cuckold crap" or "shite" at least have the courtesy to justify your comments, and to all the frustrated English teachers i'm really sorry for putting one to many comma's in a sentence!

 

[mike5050]

totally agree

Totally agree with sr71plt well said!

 

[Dazzle1]

Why do people who leave negative feedback on stories always post as ANONYMOUS??

For the same reason as the named hacking group. They want to attack without retaliation

 

[elfin_odalisque]

My favorite on this forum is "arrogant":

The Literotica definition of "arrogance": A word of abuse and derision to be leveled at someone who has been shown to know more about a specific issue or topic than you are pretending to know.

No, I think you are ranting a bit.

There are some posters who deliberately parade their supposed omniscience and berate others. These are people we need to chase off the newbie forums as bullies.

Real superstars wear their crowns lightly.

 

[lovecraft68]

Arrogance is thinking you're better than someone else and constantly trying to prove it.

I really don't care what dictionary or manual you feel like copying and pasting from.

In real life(which Pilot knows precious little about) better than is associated with arrogance.

Its also the constant need to yammer away at people with "credentials and experience."

The translations to your posts are simply

"Listen to me I am better than you."

What I have come to learn is that anyone who says they are better than someone has just automatically proven otherwise by saying it.

And the concept that knowledge is not arrogance is true. Its not a sin to know more than someone on a certain topic.

The arrogance is to consistently try to shove that knowledge at people and pump your chest.

People who are knowing yet not arrogant can simply answer a question and if the person does not want to take the advice or question it that person will shrug and wander off not try to prove themselves.

Which to me shows your total lack of self esteem which of course any first year psych student can tell you is what iss buried beneath all arrogance.