Why so many incest threads?

[goofyazzhell]

Far be it from me to deny anyone their fantasies or their own paticular kink, but for these people (mostly guys) that offer up their incest threads, have you ever stopped to think about what it is you are fantasizing about?
Are you aware of the millions of people each year that are victimized by incest? And yes, victimized is the correct word.
More often than not, incest is an act, a criminal act at that, perpetrated against an unwilling, juvenile victim. What could possibly be sexy, sexual or arousing about that?
The after affects of incest are devestating to the individual and society as a whole. Depression, suicide, alcoholism and drug addiction are rampant amongst victims of incest.
Okay, I have put enough of a rant out here, enough Lit downer for the day and yes, I agree with "if you don't like it, don't read it", but stop romanticizing a criminal act and making believe your animalistic urges are victimless.

 

[droid]

the fantasy isn't about victimization

I'm not flamming your post but think you miss the jist of the kink... I've never read (but don't doubt there may be some) incest stories that center around the idea of hurting or victimizing a vunerable family member - the allure in the taboo is just that... something powerfully forbidden but maybe, incredibly, explosively HOT. Seduction...secrecy... shared depravity w/ intimacy & trust... that appeals more to the fantasy than does pain & humiliation.
But, as you wrote, these views are my own.
I don't understand much of the appeal in BDSM stories involving rape or torture for example...

 

[Undermyclothes]

I'm not flamming your post but think you miss the jist of the kink... I've never read (but don't doubt there may be some) incest stories that center around the idea of hurting or victimizing a vunerable family member - the allure in the taboo is just that... something powerfully forbidden but maybe, incredibly, explosively HOT. Seduction...secrecy... shared depravity w/ intimacy & trust... that appeals more to the fantasy than does pain & humiliation.
But, as you wrote, these views are my own.
I don't understand much of the appeal in BDSM stories involving rape or torture for example...

I agree....... I always head straight to the incest stories (especially the Mother/Son ones) Find them especially erotic. I too don't find much appeal in reading a lot of the other catagories

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Far be it from me to deny anyone their fantasies or their own paticular kink, but for these people (mostly guys) that offer up their incest threads, have you ever stopped to think about what it is you are fantasizing about?
Are you aware of the millions of people each year that are victimized by incest? And yes, victimized is the correct word.
More often than not, incest is an act, a criminal act at that, perpetrated against an unwilling, juvenile victim. What could possibly be sexy, sexual or arousing about that?
The after affects of incest are devestating to the individual and society as a whole. Depression, suicide, alcoholism and drug addiction are rampant amongst victims of incest.
Okay, I have put enough of a rant out here, enough Lit downer for the day and yes, I agree with "if you don't like it, don't read it", but stop romanticizing a criminal act and making believe your animalistic urges are victimless.

It's a lot more going on with incest erotica than just to call it "romanticizing" a criminal act. Sorry, but all your rant is saying is that YOU don't like it and YOU can't deal with people's right to their erotic fantasies. And it just strikes me as some whiney, "oh whyyyyyy does this have to beeeeeeeee like thaaaaat" diatribe of someone who would prefer sex and erotic fantasy to be in one flat, logical, safe dimension.

There is a majority of incest threads that don't deal with family members under eighteen, which is your REAL point of contention here and which does't exist in this forum, as per its guidelines. You can have a story about siblings in their 50s or a father-daughter affair where daddy's in his 60s and the loving daughter's in her 30s. Take out the juvenile factor and your argument loses punch in the greater scheme of adults making adult sexual choices for themselves.

But the bottom line is: it's a fantasy. You can't regulate fantasy and it's not meant to be fair or "just." I'm a person of color and there's plenty of White people out there who get off on erotica and porn chock full of ugly, unnecessary stereotypes concerning Blacks, Asians, Latinos, etc., but they wouldn't necessarily project that mentality onto me in real life. Because I cannot regulate their minds, I will always give them the benefit of the doubt to be a responsible adult and NOT to project such mentality on my person if we ever do meet, just as I wouldn't let them in on my blonde and blue-eyed WASP White cum-slave girl fantasies, especially if they happen to have blonde and blue-eyed female family members or friends.

Well, not unless they ASKED first...

So, forgive me if I don't really respect your whine. You should do yourself better and go to a more vanilla erotica site where your ideals and convictions fit better. They are out there, but the majority of people's diverse fantasies will ALWAYS disappoint you in the end, in some fashion.

 

[basic_desires]

It's a lot more going on with incest erotica than just to call it "romanticizing" a criminal act. Sorry, but all your rant is saying is that YOU don't like it and YOU can't deal with people's right to their erotic fantasies. And it just strikes me as some whiney, "oh whyyyyyy does this have to beeeeeeeee like thaaaaat" diatribe of someone who would prefer sex and erotic fantasy to be in one flat, logical, safe dimension.

There is a majority of incest threads that don't deal with family members under eighteen, which is your REAL point of contention here and which does't exist in this forum, as per its guidelines. You can have a story about siblings in their 50s or a father-daughter affair where daddy's in his 60s and the loving daughter's in her 30s. Take out the juvenile factor and your argument loses punch in the greater scheme of adults making adult sexual choices for themselves.

But the bottom line is: it's a fantasy. You can't regulate fantasy and it's not meant to be fair or "just." I'm a person of color and there's plenty of White people out there who get off on erotica and porn chock full of ugly, unnecessary stereotypes concerning Blacks, Asians, Latinos, etc., but they wouldn't necessarily project that mentality onto me in real life. Because I cannot regulate their minds, I will always give them the benefit of the doubt to be a responsible adult and NOT to project such mentality on my person if we ever do meet, just as I wouldn't let them in on my blonde and blue-eyed WASP White cum-slave girl fantasies, especially if they happen to have blonde and blue-eyed female family members or friends.

Well, not unless they ASKED first...

So, forgive me if I don't really respect your whine. You should do yourself better and go to a more vanilla erotica site where your ideals and convictions fit better. They are out there, but the majority of people's diverse fantasies will ALWAYS disappoint you in the end, in some fashion.

...couldn't have put it better myself...- in fact I might not have put it that well at all...

 

[conntom2002]

My sister is over eighteen and she is HOT. What a set on that girl!

 

[goofyazzhell]

It's a lot more going on with incest erotica than just to call it "romanticizing" a criminal act. Sorry, but all your rant is saying is that YOU don't like it and YOU can't deal with people's right to their erotic fantasies. And it just strikes me as some whiney, "oh whyyyyyy does this have to beeeeeeeee like thaaaaat" diatribe of someone who would prefer sex and erotic fantasy to be in one flat, logical, safe dimension.

There is a majority of incest threads that don't deal with family members under eighteen, which is your REAL point of contention here and which does't exist in this forum, as per its guidelines. You can have a story about siblings in their 50s or a father-daughter affair where daddy's in his 60s and the loving daughter's in her 30s. Take out the juvenile factor and your argument loses punch in the greater scheme of adults making adult sexual choices for themselves.

But the bottom line is: it's a fantasy. You can't regulate fantasy and it's not meant to be fair or "just." I'm a person of color and there's plenty of White people out there who get off on erotica and porn chock full of ugly, unnecessary stereotypes concerning Blacks, Asians, Latinos, etc., but they wouldn't necessarily project that mentality onto me in real life. Because I cannot regulate their minds, I will always give them the benefit of the doubt to be a responsible adult and NOT to project such mentality on my person if we ever do meet, just as I wouldn't let them in on my blonde and blue-eyed WASP White cum-slave girl fantasies, especially if they happen to have blonde and blue-eyed female family members or friends.

Well, not unless they ASKED first...

So, forgive me if I don't really respect your whine. You should do yourself better and go to a more vanilla erotica site where your ideals and convictions fit better. They are out there, but the majority of people's diverse fantasies will ALWAYS disappoint you in the end, in some fashion.

Well, I did say "more often than not"...though admitedly, I was not aware of the Lit rules and felt that the subject line was completely out of bounds.
It's interesting though that you seem to think you know me so well from one post, but for the record, I dislike the concepts of beastiality, pedophilia and necrophilia as well.
I simply pointed out the reality of incest...anyone who cares to turn a deaf ear on it is welcome to, much the same as I can choose not to read the posts concerning incest, and much the same as I can offer my view regarding it.
Call it whining if you wish...and if that draws me the label of vanilla, I will gladly wear it like a crown

 

[ShyGentleman23]

Well, I did say "more often than not"...though admitedly, I was not aware of the Lit rules and felt that the subject line was completely out of bounds.
It's interesting though that you seem to think you know me so well from one post, but for the record, I dislike the concepts of beastiality, pedophilia and necrophilia as well.
I simply pointed out the reality of incest...anyone who cares to turn a deaf ear on it is welcome to, much the same as I can choose not to read the posts concerning incest, and much the same as I can offer my view regarding it.
Call it whining if you wish...and if that draws me the label of vanilla, I will gladly wear it like a crown

The problem is you're generalizing far too much. No one is ignoring the harsh actuality that surrounds most incest "relationships" or "encounters". However, that is not what these fantasies are about. They are, utmost, about consensual incestuous encounters between rational adults. You must also realize that these are purely fantasies. While I will agree with you that there are certain things that are simply wrong, whether real or fanciful (beastiality, pedophilia, and necrophilia being the prime suspects), that doesn't apply to the fantasy of an incestuous relationship.

 

[vividimaginings]

Far be it from me to deny anyone their fantasies or their own paticular kink, but for these people (mostly guys) that offer up their incest threads, have you ever stopped to think about what it is you are fantasizing about?
Are you aware of the millions of people each year that are victimized by incest? And yes, victimized is the correct word.
More often than not, incest is an act, a criminal act at that, perpetrated against an unwilling, juvenile victim. What could possibly be sexy, sexual or arousing about that?
The after affects of incest are devestating to the individual and society as a whole. Depression, suicide, alcoholism and drug addiction are rampant amongst victims of incest.
Okay, I have put enough of a rant out here, enough Lit downer for the day and yes, I agree with "if you don't like it, don't read it", but stop romanticizing a criminal act and making believe your animalistic urges are victimless.

Any type of sexual act perpetuated by someone against someone else against their will is wrong and the offender should be charged to the full extent of the law, whether they are related or not, the fantasies of incest that I like and I assume that a vast maority of other readers are acted out by consenting adults. Both have made a choice of their own free will.

 

[goofyazzhell]

Any type of sexual act perpetuated by someone against someone else against their will is wrong and the offender should be charged to the full extent of the law, whether they are related or not, the fantasies of incest that I like and I assume that a vast maority of other readers are acted out by consenting adults. Both have made a choice of their own free will.

Fair enough, and again, I am not saying that I am, nor have the right to be any moral governor.
I'm not sure if there is a slippery slope regarding fantasizing an adult incestrial relationship...but most certainly there are people who do fantasize about juvenile incestrial relationships and that was what I was addressing.
Soooooo, enjoy what you wish, I may not agree with it, but part of the reason we are able to address what we like and don't like is because of open speech forums such as this.
Doesn't mean I don't find it bizarre, but then again, there may be things I fantasize about that others would find bizarre.

 

[MEinSoCal]

My sister is over eighteen and she is HOT. What a set on that girl!

can you post some pics of sis for us so we too can see how HOT she is

 

[SallyIsHere]

Thought police?

I don't think most pedophiles are hanging out on Lit chatting with the fine people here. We understand the difference between fantasy and reality. When a woman fantasizes about being over powered and taken sexually she is in complete control. She has no desire for that reality, where she is powerless and a victim. I don't have any desire to seduce my father. We don't have that kind of relationship and I love the relationship we have. However, I often fantasizie about about showing my new panties to a nice "daddy" or having him give me a sensuous bubble bath that arouses him so much that he has to pleasure himself for me. That drives me insane but does not drive me to prey on family members. It is fantasy, plain and simple, and we need to stay out of people's fantasy world and mop up the problems in the real world. Sal

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Well, I did say "more often than not"...though admitedly, I was not aware of the Lit rules and felt that the subject line was completely out of bounds.
It's interesting though that you seem to think you know me so well from one post, but for the record, I dislike the concepts of beastiality, pedophilia and necrophilia as well.
I simply pointed out the reality of incest...anyone who cares to turn a deaf ear on it is welcome to, much the same as I can choose not to read the posts concerning incest, and much the same as I can offer my view regarding it.
Call it whining if you wish...and if that draws me the label of vanilla, I will gladly wear it like a crown

It's all good. It was just that you went on and on about the many dangers and realities of incest in real life as if to presume that those who like the stories had only tunnel vision for that kink and would neglect to see the consequences of doing so in real life if given the chance. Which is quite often, the knee-jerk response towards certain sexual practices beyond the standard vanilla. My reaction is not assuming anything more about you personally than breaking down the hubris that you brought to this table. And although you are entitled to your rights to express your opinions and I do respect that, my response to you is that your attitude in this is useless here, given that this site nor no one is (vocally) championing or promoting a "cause" or "right" for incest sex, most especially that with underage family members. Were that the case, I most likely would be marching with you and buying you a beer after the rally.

It's like complaining about characters in an erotic story smoking in bed after sex. Why not make a post about the dangers of carcinogens and the eventual painful reality of emphysema? Why stop there? Why not prevent people from having car sex fantasies because they might get permanent brain damage from carbon monoxide poisoning if they don't crack a window? Why not leech out every vestige of what makes a fantasy a fantasy versus reality just because there is a danger to having fun?

There may be many immature circle jerkers popping in here needing a fix for the latest kink who piss in the camp's kool-aid every now and then, but the overwhelming majority here are adults who treat sex with adult gloves. We can be accepting of many things here and be responsible. Leave the condescending polemics to other websites, drop your pants, get hard or wet (or both) and come join in the fun.

 

[Javagirl]

Great rebuttal, IK

I couldn't have said it better myself. We're all of age and it's not about judging people. I completely agree with IK.

Now I digress. IK, would you take a brunette with blue eyes for your white cum slave girl fantasy? We must chat soon and I'll tell you about some of my fantasies HA!

 

[Guest]

I couldn't have said it better myself. We're all of age and it's not about judging people. I completely agree with IK.

Now I digress. IK, would you take a brunette with blue eyes for your white cum slave girl fantasy? We must chat soon and I'll tell you about some of my fantasies HA!

If he's not interested, let me know.

 

[singletolong]

same goes

I agree....... I always head straight to the incest stories (especially the Mother/Son ones) Find them especially erotic. I too don't find much appeal in reading a lot of the other catagories

i agree with this , i am an avid incest reader , nearly all the stories i read are of loving parents , siblings etc , . this is a sexual orientated site and i guess with that you get all kinds of different scenario's . i also like reading reluctant or non consentual but in reality am against violence , it is fantasy for me as i think many others that read it . to each their own

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I couldn't have said it better myself. We're all of age and it's not about judging people. I completely agree with IK.

Now I digress. IK, would you take a brunette with blue eyes for your white cum slave girl fantasy? We must chat soon and I'll tell you about some of my fantasies HA!

Heh heh heh...well, I didn't tell you who was FIRST in the links on that white girl cum slave chain, did I, my tasty, voluptuous, big-boobied n' bootiful lady?

If he's not interested, let me know.

She's MINE, buddy!

But...the world moves through the brotherhood of men...and we can share. I'm sure Java don't mind more than one person eating at her dinner table!

 

[robincr]

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[Javagirl]

Awww I found you IK

As far as many men eating at my dinner table...both men and women are invited to join the dining experience...between my legs that is.

A white cum slave girl? Does that mean you only "date white girls?" HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Whoops, I'm stealing the thunder from Hitler's Poster Child thread.

Just as long as you don't shoot it in my eye, I'll play slave girl just for you..I'm usually the dom type but maybe I could switch for one evening...just 'cuz I like you...but later you will have to pour wine over my curves and see where the path follows...to Java Nirvana

 

[goofyazzhell]

You've superimposed your implicit belief on what "incest" is with the loaded statements of "criminal", "victimized", and "unwilling juvenile".

Few of the incest stories I've read involve any sort of unwillingness. Usually it's more of an admission of a mutual attraction both were too afraid to reveal. I'm sure there's non-consent stories too, but I don't tend to read those at all in general (regardless of it's an incest story or not) so I haven't come across them.

As for "criminal", you realize several states and countries criminalize anal sex or same-sex involvement? Some even have laws against oral sex. Do those activities disgust you as well?

Clearly, in your mind, the word "incest" is so tightly coupled with rape and victimization that you're unable to separate the two separate concepts of consensual sex vs. felony abuse. I suppose that's fine, just realize it's in your mind. It's not the mindset of those who enjoy the topic. I personally can't grasp why some people like BSDM, but I know they do, and if it's consensual, then fine. I just won't read it.

You might also consider that given the huge popularity of the topic (look at the story counts), that incest fantasy has a pretty broad appeal, much like homosexual stories, anal, BSDM, etc.

Robin, as a person who has seen a 14 year old, vibrant young girl hanging from a thin piece of rope, forced to that action as a result of the acts of her father...yes, in my mind incest is coupled with rape and victimization.
As I stated before, I was not aware of the Lit rules, and wrongly thought that there may be discussion/communication and literature on these boards regarding incestrial relationships with children. Hence, the reason for my post.
People fantasizing about adult relationships may not be my thing, but if that is what works for them, that is fine in my (somewhat damaged) mind.
As for the criminalization of certain sexual activities, obviously, some states/countried are far behind the learning curve on what consenting adults should be allowed to do. There is absolutely no reason why consensual anal, oral or same sex relationships should be viewed under the microscope of the law. We are on the same page as far as that topic is concerned, however, surely you don't feel that incest should be decriminalized do you?
I'm not sure if you were leaning that way, as opposed to general discussion regarding fantasy.

 

[robincr]

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[ShyGentleman23]

Very well said. I agree with you wholeheartedly. While incest is certainly wrong from a natural/scientific perspective, with respect to reproduction, there is no reason for it to be demonized and criminalized if two completely consenting, yet related, adults should decide to engage in sexual activity. It's no one's business but their own and the government, quite honestly, has no vested interest in prohibiting it in that context.

 

[77817]

Far be it from me to deny anyone their fantasies or their own paticular kink, but for these people (mostly guys) that offer up their incest threads, have you ever stopped to think about what it is you are fantasizing about?
Are you aware of the millions of people each year that are victimized by incest? And yes, victimized is the correct word.
More often than not, incest is an act, a criminal act at that, perpetrated against an unwilling, juvenile victim. What could possibly be sexy, sexual or arousing about that?
The after affects of incest are devestating to the individual and society as a whole. Depression, suicide, alcoholism and drug addiction are rampant amongst victims of incest.
Okay, I have put enough of a rant out here, enough Lit downer for the day and yes, I agree with "if you don't like it, don't read it", but stop romanticizing a criminal act and making believe your animalistic urges are victimless.

It's a shame not everyone has the strong moral compass we do.

 

[ltfgas28]

It's a shame not everyone has the strong moral compass we do.

Yes because you posting on a exotic forum makes you have such a strong moral compass. Im sorry but you arent one to judge and neither is anyone else. Everyone on here enjoys something fucked up when someone else might condemn it, so everyone can go fuck themselves for judging unless it involves underaged anything or rape in general...

 

[BlackAristotle]

It's a shame not everyone has the strong moral compass we do.

That's quite the ironic statement given the forum that you're currently posting on. But, then again, given the condescending nature of your posting history, a response such as this doesn't surprise me.