Why Liberals Suck

[lavender]

 

[GulfCoastAquarian]

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[Willing and Unsure]

hey... i may be liberal, but i dont suck..... i swallow





wait a sec... dont i have to suck to be able to swallow?

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

As you all know - I think what is essentially side taking -

is well below what "should be" expected from the capabilities of our human brains.

However - I do have "some" thoughts regarding what is generally referred to as Liberals and Conservatives.

This you know too - I am for change/improvement/attempts at improvement. I'm for "trying to do everything - better." And change is the only thing that can accomplish this. Change, even though it can go astray - will always veer back toward true improvement - that fact is simply held fast within the very nature of the meaning of change. And with that said - I would guess that I am more aligned with Liberals than Conservatives. With that said - I find it hard to even fathom Conservative philosophies.

You see - no change, it's good enough the way it is, go easy, slow down, stop that - let's not fix it, it ain't broke - thinking, well - where does it stop? I mean - might many conservatives want to "go back?" Roll back the hands of time? To a time when life was better? And if so - to when exactly? Or do they just want things to slow or stop - now? In their time. Halt "their" time - right now? I just don't get it.

But beyond that - let's talk about fun. Let's talk about all kinds of fun but let's focus on sexual fun.

Well is Liberals like improvement and change (variety?) then you would easily think (at least to me anyway) that they would have for more fun with sex than Conservative types. Heck - Conservatives might just want missionary position sex and that's it.

So when you say - Liberal's!!!! I say, "Yes they do!!!" Say it loud and say it proud, "Liberal's SUCK!!!!!"

And ya know -

Many of'em swallow too.

 

[WriterDom]

Liberals are the better suckers. For the most part.

Once the people swept the democrats out of congress, it took the wind out of the sail of Clinton setting any policies. It's just the slime that bothers me about Clinton. The illegal contributions from top levels of the Chinese army. Clinton's decision to approve the rocket and satellite technology transfer to China. 100s of FBI files in the hands of democratic operatives when a republican did time for one classified document. Firing of FBI director William Sessions to prevent an autonomous FBI from investigating the Foster suicide and from resisting cooperation in the Filegate operation. the IRS audits of conservative think tanks and women who have made accusations against Bill Clinton.

I could on and on, but it's only fair to remember the good things about the Clinton legacy. Not only losing the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years, but seeing a 78 seat advantage disappear. A net gain 3,539 legislative seats nationwide for the GOP, and most importantly, the sinking of Al Gore's LockBox to the depths of obscurity.

 

[Blackbich]

LMAO!!

hey... i may be liberal, but i dont suck..... i swallow





wait a sec... dont i have to suck to be able to swallow?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but yes, you do have to suck if you want to do it right.

 

[unusuallyconfused]

1. liberals seem to prefer a more "socialized" type of government involvement than the conservatives. I am not stupid, I know a lot of conservative politicians like to have the money to spend as well, I am just for a lot less FEDERAL government involvement.

2. I don't like the "victims" attitude I see in a lot of liberals. There seems to always be some reason to have done some wrong.

3. Environmentalists fall into the liberals politics and although I believe in some Environmental issues, I think it has crossed the line of common sense.

4. I believe in personal responsibility and the old "you don't work, you don't eat". Of course I am not referring to the children, handicapped, etc.......But there has been an employment crisis at many locations and some people just won't work........I know some people like that......It is wrong Therefore tolerance is more accepted in the Liberal movement. ( on the positive side when I screw up I can always count on my liberal friends to forgive my stupidity)

5. I don't like the activists in the Gay community. I think it is certainly acceptable to have that sexual preference but I don't think it should be forced on the public or in education. It seems to be a double standard sometimes that the "religious right" is more "evil" than the "gay activists".

6. I think I read a thread written by Texan that seemed to say this so much better than I can.

 

[Pyper]

How is gay activism being forced on the community? Sure we just had Gay Pride day, but we also have Saint Patrick's Day (Irish pride), Cinco de Mayo (Mexican pride), and a whole slew of other pride days for all kinds of people. Gays are still heavily discriminated against, both in law and in social settings. How do you propose that they gain and maintain their rights as citizens of the United States?

I'm sorry, unusuallyconfused, but your statements smacks of the old, "I like gay people, as long as they don't act gay."

 

[WriterDom]

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[unusuallyconfused]

How is gay activism being forced on the community? Sure we just had Gay Pride day, but we also have Saint Patrick's Day (Irish pride), Cinco de Mayo (Mexican pride), and a whole slew of other pride days for all kinds of people. Gays are still heavily discriminated against, both in law and in social settings. How do you propose that they gain and maintain their rights as citizens of the United States?

I'm sorry, unusuallyconfused, but your statements smacks of the old, "I like gay people, as long as they don't act gay."

I knew the "smart one" ( I knew you were the smartest in your school) would kick my ass! I have a problem with activists. I have a problem when you try to teach kindergartners about "gay issues" because I think at that age they shouldn't have to know about any sexual issues. Being gay is a sexual preference. Why is that relevant to a kid who is five.
I would back you 100% if someone was fired for this preference. I am not anti gay.

 

[Guru]

 

[bluntforcemama]

I LOVE liberals! I just want to eat them all up! They're so damn sexy!

 

[Ezzy]

Because they can?

EZ

 

[Laurel]

Why the right-wing obsession with gays? Gays make up MAYBE 10% of the population, though I think the actual number is far, far less. Why do you keep associating progressives and gays like they're the same people? Haven't you ever heard of the Log Cabin Republicans?

You don't have to like gays. You don't have to like Blacks. You wanna be a bigot? Fine, be as bigoted as you wanna be. Knock yourself out. I don't like the KKK, but I'll fight for their right to be heard. Believe it our not, in our democracy people with opposing views & lifestyles have just as much right to voice their opinion as you do. For you to champion your right to call gays abominations and evil then disallow them the right to their voice is the height of hypocrisy.

You can call be a fag-lover. You can call me a nigger-lover. You can call me any nasty name you like. It's a free country, that's the beauty of it. But I think a more fitting label would be Freedom-Lover. Because truly loving freedom means that you want it for everyone, not just those who are like you.

 

[lavender]

 

[Laurel]

I'm sorry. I'll try harder next time.

On topic, Liberals suck because they try too hard to be nice and compromising when they should be fighting for what's right. The current crop in Congress is giving me ulcers. Bunch of damn wimps, IMHO.

 

[Cheyenne]

1. liberals seem to prefer a more "socialized" type of government involvement than the conservatives. I am not stupid, I know a lot of conservative politicians like to have the money to spend as well, I am just for a lot less FEDERAL government involvement.

2. I don't like the "victims" attitude I see in a lot of liberals. There seems to always be some reason to have done some wrong.

3. Environmentalists fall into the liberals politics and although I believe in some Environmental issues, I think it has crossed the line of common sense.

4. I believe in personal responsibility and the old "you don't work, you don't eat". Of course I am not referring to the children, handicapped, etc.......But there has been an employment crisis at many locations and some people just won't work........I know some people like that......It is wrong Therefore tolerance is more accepted in the Liberal movement. ( on the positive side when I screw up I can always count on my liberal friends to forgive my stupidity)

My half hour on the library internet computer goes quickly! So, I like all of these reasons. Save typing time.

 

[Texan]

this feels like a set up

I doubt lavender really wants to have all the weaknesses of liberalism pointed out so publicly. My guess is that lavender is smart enough to know that some conservatives will make irrational claims about what liberalism is, and then (justifiably) attack conservatives as being "unaware" or "misinformed". If this is the case, lavender..... it is an excellent tactic.... I salute you.

Let me provide a little foder.

While I believe that most liberals are Democrats, I do not believe that nearly all who align themselves with the Democratic Party are liberals. Therefore, conservatives need to be careful not to hang the Democratic Party label on all liberals.

I think that at the core of liberalism is a basic belief that differs from the core belief of conservatives. I think most of the policy positions taken by liberals are derived from this basic belief.

In my opinion, liberals honestly believe that the world is made up of "victims" and "victimizers". They believe that liberals are the only "pure hearts" that stand to protect the victims from the victimizers.

Liberals see past injustices by the "majority" against "groups" and believe they are noble in standing against the majority in protection of each of the "victim groups". Since Pres. Johnson's Great Society, victim groups have increasingly aligned themselves with liberals under the Democratic Party to create a large enough political base to successfully "defend" themselves against the "majority".

Springing from this core belief are the natural deductions that the wealthy acquired their wealth (and want to continue to acquire it) at the expense of the poor. This belief allows unions and environmental activist groups and feminists to join together with liberals (Ralf Nader not excluded) to fight against the "big corporation" victimizers. This allows civil rights groups and some immigrant groups and native american groups to join together with liberals to fight against the "white male majority" victimizers.

Liberals believe themselves to be more enlightened than conservatives. They believe conservatives are "longing for the good old days". Liberals believe conservatives are all religious zealots who want to force everyone to be "born again". (slight exageration for effect)

Unfortunately, liberals seem to make most of their policy decisions based upon the irrational fear that conservatives will gain enough political power to "squash" all the victims groups the enlightened liberals are chartered to protect. This prevents the liberals from accepting some of the good and practical ideas held by some conservatives.

lavender, I believe many conservative are more "progressive" than many liberals. When I see a well-intentioned program that just isn't working to help those it was intented to help, I think it's time to CHANGE the program. This applies to our system of funding for public education, and scholastic testing, as well as, other things. Being a progressive is not the exclusive right of a liberal. Being a progressive means working to make positive changes, and not trying to protect the "status quo" even if this means offending one of the liberal's "victims groups".

 

[Weevil]

Re: this feels like a set up

I doubt lavender really wants to have all the weaknesses of liberalism pointed out so publicly. My guess is that lavender is smart enough to know that some conservatives will make irrational claims about what liberalism is, and then (justifiably) attack conservatives as being "unaware" or "misinformed". If this is the case, lavender..... it is an excellent tactic.... I salute you.

Let me provide a little foder.

While I believe that most liberals are Democrats, I do not believe that nearly all who align themselves with the Democratic Party are liberals. Therefore, conservatives need to be careful not to hang the Democratic Party label on all liberals.

I think that at the core of liberalism is a basic belief that differs from the core belief of conservatives. I think most of the policy positions taken by liberals are derived from this basic belief.

In my opinion, liberals honestly believe that the world is made up of "victims" and "victimizers". They believe that liberals are the only "pure hearts" that stand to protect the victims from the victimizers.

Liberals see past injustices by the "majority" against "groups" and believe they are noble in standing against the majority in protection of each of the "victim groups". Since Pres. Johnson's Great Society, victim groups have increasingly aligned themselves with liberals under the Democratic Party to create a large enough political base to successfully "defend" themselves against the "majority".

Springing from this core belief are the natural deductions that the wealthy acquired their wealth (and want to continue to acquire it) at the expense of the poor. This belief allows unions and environmental activist groups and feminists to join together with liberals (Ralf Nader not excluded) to fight against the "big corporation" victimizers. This allows civil rights groups and some immigrant groups and native american groups to join together with liberals to fight against the "white male majority" victimizers.

Liberals believe themselves to be more enlightened than conservatives. They believe conservatives are "longing for the good old days". Liberals believe conservatives are all religious zealots who want to force everyone to be "born again". (slight exageration for effect)

Unfortunately, liberals seem to make most of their policy decisions based upon the irrational fear that conservatives will gain enough political power to "squash" all the victims groups the enlightened liberals are chartered to protect. This prevents the liberals from accepting some of the good and practical ideas held by some conservatives.

lavender, I believe many conservative are more "progressive" than many liberals. When I see a well-intentioned program that just isn't working to help those it was intented to help, I think it's time to CHANGE the program. This applies to our system of funding for public education, and scholastic testing, as well as, other things. Being a progressive is not the exclusive right of a liberal. Being a progressive means working to make positive changes, and not trying to protect the "status quo" even if this means offending one of the liberal's "victims groups".

Shucks, Tex you could have raised my opinion of you if you had stopped at the first paragraph you wrote. I don't think that any liberals would characterize what their beliefs are with any of the words you quoted. I've never heard a "liberal" use the term "pure heart"

But you are right in some of your statements. I think you've summed up a good chunk of liberal views, with a weird consrvative slant as usual

 

[unusuallyconfused]

You know, I just want to know why you can't f-ing comment at all about a gay without being a "gay basher". I don't really give a crap about any ones sexual life, except mine that is, but I absolutely disagree with a lot of the "activists" on their agenda. I don't even remotely hate gays.

Does the Baptists who posted that stupid web site Riff showed represent the entire Christian community? Of course not. I don't think that because I disagree with the activist movement that I am overly critical of gays in general. I'm no saint, never will be. I am not judging the gay population but a portion of those that are extreme.

Then I would also be saying that there are no gay conservatives. Wrong. Of course there a gay conservatives. The activists generally swing to the liberal side of things. That was the point I was trying to make.

 

[Problem Child]

Naw...this thread is ok, but the "Why conservatives suck" thread is better. The liberals are beating up on the conservatives in a much more systematic and abusive way.

Maybe its just a numbers thing...I dunno.

 

[GulfCoastAquarian]

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