Why Kerry doesn't deserve your vote

Wildcard Ky

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Kerry has long been a vocal proponent of extending unemployment benefits. The vote to actually extend the benefits was taken in the senate today. It was defeated by one vote. There was one senator absent for this vote, John Kerry.

Had Kerry been there, a cause that he claims to support would have passed. Since he was absent, it failed. When asked why he missed the vote, Kerry responded "we were told that no matter what would happen, [the Republicans] would change a vote in the Senate and they were not going to let it happen."

Where to begin?? So if you don't think you can win, you just don't bother voting? How were the Republicans going to change a public vote within the Senate? How can the man claim to be for or against anything when he won't even bother to vote on it? Then when confronted about a vote, he tries to blame it on the Republicans.

According to Congressional data, Kerry participated in only 35% of the votes in the Senate through March 5 of 2004. He is supposed to representing the people of Mass., yet he doesn't even bother to vote in their interest 65% of the time. Now he wants to be my President? Maybe he should try fulfilling his role as Senator and represent the people that elected him before taking on a bigger role. It seems that he's interested in his current role only 35% of the time.

The reason Kerry was absent from this vote is that he was campaigning and fund raising in my state of Ky. He raised $750k for his campaign. He thought that was more important than being present for a vote in which he would have made THE difference in how it turned out. He was more concerned with John Kerry than any people, or any cause. That is why he will never get my vote for president, nor does he deserve your vote.
 
That does seem a bit crappy. Are there any other viable candidates, like from the Green party? (That's who I vote for in Britain, even though they're a bit useless too)
 
dirtylover said:
That does seem a bit crappy. Are there any other viable candidates, like from the Green party? (That's who I vote for in Britain, even though they're a bit useless too)

Unfortunately, no. Right now it's pretty much a two candidate race. I believe that Ralph Nader is a registered candidate for the Green Party, but they have been completely silent so far.
 
That's right, I have no reason to vote for Kerry. I am probably going to vote Green Party over Paul Martin, Stephen Harper or Jack Layton.

Question.

What party is Kerry running under?

:D
 
somehow I don't think it's the Keryy voting record that did it for ya, wildcard....

i'd say roy moore might be more appealing to Kentuckians of right leanings. there's yer Christian prinsiples.
 
Pure said:
somehow I don't think it's the Keryy voting record that did it for ya, wildcard....

i'd say roy moore might be more appealing to Kentuckians of right leanings. there's yer Christian prinsiples.

Glad to see that you don't subscribe to any form of stereotype pure. To be perfectly honest, Kerry's hypocrisy IS what did it for me. I don't care for GWB at all, but he's definitely the lesser of two evils as far as the presidency is concerned.

Now, if you'd like to enter some form of reasonable, intelligent discussion on this topic, please let me know and I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on the matter. If you just want to sit back and play stereotypes about me because I live in Ky, please don't waste my time. The choice of whether you want to act like an adult it is up to you.
 
not aware of any stereotyping, wild. you do have a goodly number of Christians, Republicans, right wing folks, down there, dontya?

when was the last time _you_ voted for a democrat?
 
I'll be voting for Kerry. Not because I like him or the Democrats, but because Bush has been the worst president of my lifetime, and quite frankly the thought of four more years of his bungling and his odious cabinet scares the living hell out of me. :(
 
He won't get my vote. Neither will GWB. Perhaps I'll write in a candidate. I think Pops would make a swell president. When was the last time we had a unique presidential pet? Pops & the first parrot. Yeah, that's what I will do.

-Colly
 
Your other choices recently started World War III. No WMD. "Better targets in Iraq than Afghanistan." Remember?

Fortunately for those who think Kerry's failures somehow outweigh the way the world has been plummeting toward oblivion for three years, your boy is probably safe. He somehow gets credit even for things he didn't do. I just participated in a telephone poll and one of the questions was, "Which candidate is a decorated Vietnam veteran." The girl taking the poll told me, "you'd be surprised how many people get that wrong."

People are dumber than a plastic spork at a steak dinner. We're doomed.

Wildcard Ky said:
Kerry has long been a vocal proponent of extending unemployment benefits. The vote to actually extend the benefits was taken in the senate today. It was defeated by one vote. There was one senator absent for this vote, John Kerry.

Had Kerry been there, a cause that he claims to support would have passed. Since he was absent, it failed. When asked why he missed the vote, Kerry responded "we were told that no matter what would happen, [the Republicans] would change a vote in the Senate and they were not going to let it happen."

Where to begin?? So if you don't think you can win, you just don't bother voting? How were the Republicans going to change a public vote within the Senate? How can the man claim to be for or against anything when he won't even bother to vote on it? Then when confronted about a vote, he tries to blame it on the Republicans.

According to Congressional data, Kerry participated in only 35% of the votes in the Senate through March 5 of 2004. He is supposed to representing the people of Mass., yet he doesn't even bother to vote in their interest 65% of the time. Now he wants to be my President? Maybe he should try fulfilling his role as Senator and represent the people that elected him before taking on a bigger role. It seems that he's interested in his current role only 35% of the time.

The reason Kerry was absent from this vote is that he was campaigning and fund raising in my state of Ky. He raised $750k for his campaign. He thought that was more important than being present for a vote in which he would have made THE difference in how it turned out. He was more concerned with John Kerry than any people, or any cause. That is why he will never get my vote for president, nor does he deserve your vote.
 
Before I give up altogether on the concept of democracy, I'll post this again from last February. It took hours to put it together, and it's worth weighing this against the things you don't like about Kerry.

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"Hello," he lied.

In honor of Valentine's Day, I spent an hour or so reuniting these mates: the matching components of contradictions made by the Bush administration regarding Iraq. Some stories write themselves.

I think everyone will love the ending.

BEFORE:

We know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.
Dick Cheney
Meet The Press
3/16/2003

AFTER:

You may be reading too much. I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons.
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
DoD News Briefing
6/24/2003

BEFORE:

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
8/26/2002

The president of the United States and the secretary of defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true.
Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Response to Question From Press
12/4/2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
12/2/2002

AFTER:

I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are.
Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
7/9/2003

BEFORE:

We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas.
George W. Bush
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002

We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas.
George W. Bush
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002

AFTER:

DIANE SAWYER: But stated as a hard fact, that there were weapons of mass destruction as opposed to the possibility that he could move to acquire those weapons still —

PRESIDENT BUSH: So what's the difference?
George W. Bush
12/16/2003



BEFORE:

It {Iraq} actively maintains all key aspects of its offensive BW [biological weapons] program.
John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control
Speech to the Hudson Institute
11/1/2002

AFTER:

A British scientist and biological weapons expert, who has examined the trailers in Iraq, told The Observer last week: "They are not mobile germ warfare laboratories. You could not use them for making biological weapons. They do not even look like them. They are exactly what the Iraqis said they were -- facilities for the production of hydrogen gas to fill balloons."
Unnamed British Weapons Inspector
The Observer
6/15/2003

BEFORE:

There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more.
Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Addresses the U.N. Security Council
2/5/2003

AFTER:

The biological weapons labs that we believe strongly are biological weapons labs, we didn't find any biological weapons with those labs. But should that give us any comfort? Not at all.
Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Associated Press Interview
6/12/2003

BEFORE:

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction. Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board member
Washington Post, p. A27
3/23/2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
ABC Interview
3/30/2003

AFTER:

We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Fox News Interview
5/4/2003

No one ever said that we knew precisely where all of these agents were, where they were stored.
Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor
Meet the Press
6/8/2003

BEFORE:

But make no mistake -- as I said earlier -- we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found.
Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
4/10/2003

AFTER:

I'm not sure that's the major reason we went to war.
Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
NBC, Today Show
6/26/2003

For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on. Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense
Vanity Fair interview
5/28/2003

BEFORE:

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George W. Bush
Address to the Nation
3/17/2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction.
General Tommy Franks, Commander in Chief Central Command
Press Conference
3/22/2003

AFTER:

Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.
Joseph C. Wilson IV,Ambassador
New York Times Editorial
7/6/2003

SIMULTANEOUSLY:

But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.
George W. Bush
Interview with TVP Poland
5/30/2003

We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
Press Interview
5/30/2003

BUT AT LEAST:

One thing is for certain: Saddam Hussein no longer threatens America with weapons of mass destruction. George W. Bush, President
Speech at a weapons factory in Ohio
5/25/2003
 
I would vote for darn near anyone who has a chance to beat GWB in November.

Even Ross Perot.

(Did I just say that?)

If we are subjected to four more years of a Bush presidency, I'm going to seriously consider moving to another country.

Yes, *seriously*. Words cannot describe the disgust and horror I feel about that man and his administration.
 
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shereads said:
a plastic spork at a steak dinner.

Sporks make me giggle like a little girl.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Unfortunately, no. Right now it's pretty much a two candidate race. I believe that Ralph Nader is a registered candidate for the Green Party, but they have been completely silent so far.

The Green Party does not support Ralph Nader's candidacy this year, in fact his former supporters had a web site before he announced, "Ralphdontrun.com"

If another 600 people had voted for Al Gore we would not be in the middle of this war. We might have spent the billions and invested the lost lives in actually finding Osama bin Laden and breaking up Al Queda.

By not voting for Kerry because of this missed vote, you reward the party that worked so hard to defeat the cause you favor. It's what my mom used to call, "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

Jesus. What does it take for people to want to get these liars out of office?
 
Mhari said:
I would vote for darn near anyone who has a chance to beat GWB in November.

Even Ross Perot.

(Did I just say that?)

If we are subjected to four more years of a Bush presidency, I'm going to seriously consider moving to another country.

Yes, *seriously*. Words cannot describe the disgust and horror I feel about that man and his administration.

You can't escape him by moving to another country. Not anymore.

Sorry.

Btw, I used to think Perot was a joke. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat if he could bring an end to Bush II The Revenge.
 
Pure said:
not aware of any stereotyping, wild. you do have a goodly number of Christians, Republicans, right wing folks, down there, dontya?

when was the last time _you_ voted for a democrat?

I took this as a stereotype: i'd say roy moore might be more appealing to Kentuckians of right leanings. there's yer Christian prinsiples.

The spelling, assuming that everyone in Ky must be some illiterate idiot. Assuming that everyone in Ky must agree with Roy Moore and be a complete right wing radical. Now if that wasn't stereotyping, I apologize for my remarks. It sure appeared to be though.

The last time I voted for a Democrat was in the last local election. I have never missed voting once since I turned 18. I am now 38. In those 20 years of voting, I have never pulled a straight party ticket. In each race at every level I pick the candidate that most closely matches my beliefs. I voted for Bush in 88 over the ultra lib Dukakis. I voted for Clinton in 92 because Bush wasn't getting anything done. In 96 I was disgusted with Clinton and Dole, so I wrote in Colin Powell. In 2000 I voted for Bush. In 2004 I was hoping to be able to vote for Edwards, but he's no longer in the race.

Does that answer your question? I am a moderate. I have very firm beliefs, and vote the candidate that I think is closest to my beliefs, regardless of political affiliation.
 
shereads said:
The Green Party does not support Ralph Nader's candidacy this year, in fact his former supporters had a web site before he announced, "Ralphdontrun.com"

If another 600 people had voted for Al Gore we would not be in the middle of this war. We might have spent the billions and invested the lost lives in actually finding Osama bin Laden and breaking up Al Queda.

By not voting for Kerry because of this missed vote, you reward the party that worked so hard to defeat the cause you favor. It's what my mom used to call, "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

Jesus. What does it take for people to want to get these liars out of office?

I had decided to not vote for Kerry long before this missed vote. Kerry is a hypocritical liar that will say or do anything to get into office. When caught in something, Kerry always blames the republicans. When asked about missing the vote, he blamed the repubs. They didn't force him to miss. When the medal controversy came up last month, he blamed the repubs, even though it was ABC that was going after him. From 98-00 Kerry proclaimed Iraq had WMDs, now he says the repubs misled us. Who was misleading us from 98-00? Kerry voted for it, before he voted against it. Kerry was all for extending unemployment, but didn't bother to show for the vote. He only bothers to vote in Senatorial proceedings 35% of the time. The other 65% of the time he's too busy flip flopping on issues.

I'm not saying GWB is a saint, he's not. My first choice all spring was Edwards. I may wind up writing him in.

You are right, if 600 more people had voted for Gore, we wouldn't be in Iraq. Nor would be in Afghanistan, or actively chasing terrorists. Bin Laden and the Taliban would still be safe and secure in Afghanistan planning their next attack on us. Gore was VP and had his chance to do something about this mess. The WTC was bombed in 93. Somaila, the USS Cole, the embassies in Africa. All were Al Queda attacks on the US during Gores watch. What did Gore and the rest of the administration do about these attacks? Nothing. What would Gore have done as President? The same thing he did as VP, nothing. That's why he didn't get my vote.

The fault isn't just with Bush, Clinton, the Repubs or Dems on this whole terrorism mess. It goes all the way back to Vietnam. We lost that war because we refused to win. At that point we became weaker to the rest of the world. Iranians captured the hostages, and we could get them out. We were weaker. Carter is at the helm. Later we get involved in Lebanon. The barracks are blown up and we tuck tail and run. We were weaker. Reagan at the helm. Desert Storm. Start strong, finish with a wimper and leave the job unfinished. We were weaker. Bush at the helm. WTC, Cole, Embassies Somalia in the 90's. We do nothing, we are weaker. Through 30 years of backing down, we sent the message that we were weaker. If they hit us, we would tuck tail and run. It all culminated with 9-11. Every administration since Nixon is to blame for the shape that we are in today. They all had their chance to stem terrorism in some form or another, and none of them got it done. I fully believe that had Gore been elected, it would still be status quo. He showed no desire to tackle the problem on his watch either.
 
shereads said:
If another 600 people had voted for Al Gore we would not be in the middle of this war. We might have spent the billions and invested the lost lives in actually finding Osama bin Laden and breaking up Al Queda.

.....

Jesus. What does it take for people to want to get these liars out of office?

I'm sorry, but I fail to understand why so many people refuse to place the appropriate amount of responsibility for the current state of the U.S. and the world on those who occupied the White House for 8 consecutive years not so long ago. Do you think Al Qaeda just suddenly sprung up when GWB got into office? I don't think so. It's like a roast...it has to cook in the oven for a loooooong time before it's ready. The Clinton 90's was that oven. If you wanna bitch about the hell that this world is going to, blame the fucknut that spent 8 years screwing his interns instead of taking care of business.

If Al Gore was president, I don't think he would've done one damn thing about 9/11 or Saddam Hussein or any other threats to our world. He would've followed the path his buddy Clinton paved...throw a little diplomacy at the terrorists, then throw up your hands when that doesn't work. Maybe launch a few missiles at a bunch of nothing to make it all look better.

I don't know whether GWB knew and lied or was truly just wrong. But I remember that our last president lied...more than once. He admitted it. He was impeached for it. Now THERE'S you a liar.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Kerry has long been a vocal proponent of extending unemployment benefits. The vote to actually extend the benefits was taken in the senate today. It was defeated by one vote. There was one senator absent for this vote, John Kerry.

Had Kerry been there, a cause that he claims to support would have passed. Since he was absent, it failed. When asked why he missed the vote, Kerry responded "we were told that no matter what would happen, [the Republicans] would change a vote in the Senate and they were not going to let it happen."

Where to begin?? So if you don't think you can win, you just don't bother voting? How were the Republicans going to change a public vote within the Senate? How can the man claim to be for or against anything when he won't even bother to vote on it? Then when confronted about a vote, he tries to blame it on the Republicans.

According to Congressional data, Kerry participated in only 35% of the votes in the Senate through March 5 of 2004. He is supposed to representing the people of Mass., yet he doesn't even bother to vote in their interest 65% of the time. Now he wants to be my President? Maybe he should try fulfilling his role as Senator and represent the people that elected him before taking on a bigger role. It seems that he's interested in his current role only 35% of the time.

The reason Kerry was absent from this vote is that he was campaigning and fund raising in my state of Ky. He raised $750k for his campaign. He thought that was more important than being present for a vote in which he would have made THE difference in how it turned out. He was more concerned with John Kerry than any people, or any cause. That is why he will never get my vote for president, nor does he deserve your vote.

Jeez, you've been exposed to too much conservative garbage. Someone rush him a Al Franken book, stat!

Okay, we're in a middle of two wars. The deficit has grown to monsterous proportions. More jobs have been lost than under any other president. Gas...inflation.

All these important crisis going on and where is George Bush? He has time to go dialing for dollars. He has time to raise money. He has time to send CEO's a statement saying to include their wish list along with their checks to his campaign. Worse, he announced that he wouldn't be limited by the restrictions put on the amount of money he could raise, and thus forcing Kerry to do the same in order to have a chance at the presidency.

You know, perhaps if George had spent more time running the country and less time campaigning or ON FREAKIN VACATION all the time, perhaps things wouldn't be half so fucked up as they are now. And we all know that the only reason George Bush isn't on vacation, cause we know how he likes to take two months off at the ranch every summer, is that he wants to be president again.

So, to all you neo-con hypocrits...this is why Kerry derserves my vote about fifty bazillion times more than Georgie Porgie does.

Get real neo-cons... when you live in a glass house, it isn't wise to throw stones.
 
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Wildcard Ky said:
I had decided to not vote for Kerry long before this missed vote. Kerry is a hypocritical liar that will say or do anything to get into office. When caught in something, Kerry always blames the republicans. When asked about missing the vote, he blamed the repubs. They didn't force him to miss. When the medal controversy came up last month, he blamed the repubs, even though it was ABC that was going after him. From 98-00 Kerry proclaimed Iraq had WMDs, now he says the repubs misled us. Who was misleading us from 98-00? Kerry voted for it, before he voted against it. Kerry was all for extending unemployment, but didn't bother to show for the vote. He only bothers to vote in Senatorial proceedings 35% of the time. The other 65% of the time he's too busy flip flopping on issues.

I'm not saying GWB is a saint, he's not. My first choice all spring was Edwards. I may wind up writing him in.

You are right, if 600 more people had voted for Gore, we wouldn't be in Iraq. Nor would be in Afghanistan, or actively chasing terrorists. Bin Laden and the Taliban would still be safe and secure in Afghanistan planning their next attack on us. Gore was VP and had his chance to do something about this mess. The WTC was bombed in 93. Somaila, the USS Cole, the embassies in Africa. All were Al Queda attacks on the US during Gores watch. What did Gore and the rest of the administration do about these attacks? Nothing. What would Gore have done as President? The same thing he did as VP, nothing. That's why he didn't get my vote.

The fault isn't just with Bush, Clinton, the Repubs or Dems on this whole terrorism mess. It goes all the way back to Vietnam. We lost that war because we refused to win. At that point we became weaker to the rest of the world. Iranians captured the hostages, and we could get them out. We were weaker. Carter is at the helm. Later we get involved in Lebanon. The barracks are blown up and we tuck tail and run. We were weaker. Reagan at the helm. Desert Storm. Start strong, finish with a wimper and leave the job unfinished. We were weaker. Bush at the helm. WTC, Cole, Embassies Somalia in the 90's. We do nothing, we are weaker. Through 30 years of backing down, we sent the message that we were weaker. If they hit us, we would tuck tail and run. It all culminated with 9-11. Every administration since Nixon is to blame for the shape that we are in today. They all had their chance to stem terrorism in some form or another, and none of them got it done. I fully believe that had Gore been elected, it would still be status quo. He showed no desire to tackle the problem on his watch either.

Somebody finally sees Gore for what he is! Hallelujah!
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Every administration since Nixon is to blame for the shape that we are in today. They all had their chance to stem terrorism in some form or another, and none of them got it done. I fully believe that had Gore been elected, it would still be status quo. He showed no desire to tackle the problem on his watch either.

I agree wholeheartedly. None of our leaders in recent years have seemed willing to buck up and tell the world that we're not going to be fucked with. GWB is far from perfect. He very well may have lied. He very well may have had an Iraq agenda. But at least he's trying to keep me and my family safe, which is more than I can say for Clinton/Gore, and which is why I'm gonna vote for him again.

Also, lest we forget that with greatness, error is also great, Babe Ruth usually led the league in strike outs. GWB and his administration have most definitely botched some things. They may have even botched more than the previous administration. But they're also doing more...a hell of a lot more. Don't look at the number of losses. Look at the winning percentage. And look at the number of terrorist attacks on the U.S. since 9/11. I seroiusly doubt that Al Qaeda planned their one big blow out attack and that was it forever. You know damn well that there were/are other plans, but thanks to the powers that be, those plans have not been carried out.

Somebody said if GWB is re-elected they'll move to another country. I say the same thing about Kerry. At least with GWB, this is a safe place to live. I can't say that I would feel the same way under Kerry.
 
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Couture said:
Jeez, you've been exposed to too much conservative garbage. Someone rush him a Al Franken book, stat!

Okay, we're in a middle of two wars. The deficit has grown to monsterous proportions. More jobs have been lost than under any other president. Gas...inflation.

And yet, George Bush has time to go dialing for dollars. Worse, he announced that he wouldn't be limited by the restrictions put on the amount of money he could raise, and thus forcing Kerry to do the same in order to have a chance at the presidency.

You know, perhaps if George had spent more time running the country and less time campaigning or ON FREAKIN VACATION all the time, perhaps things wouldn't be half so fucked up as they are now. And we all know that the only reason George Bush isn't on vacation, cause we know how he likes to take two months off at the ranch every summer, is that he wants to be president again.

So, to all you neo-con hypocrits...this is why Kerry derserves my vote about fifty bazillion times more than Georgie Porgie does.

In Canada, the Parliament takes a summerly vacation lasting two months. It would be expected that GWB take a vacation during this time as that is what our Prime Ministers do. Maybe showing some executive power is ok but I think he does it decently when he is on vacation. The vacations is not a problem - everyone needs a break.
 
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Couture said:
You know, perhaps if George had spent more time running the country and less time campaigning or ON FREAKIN VACATION all the time, perhaps things wouldn't be half so fucked up as they are now.

Perhaps if Clinton hadn't spent 8 years FUCKING HIS INTERNS but running the country instead, things wouldn't be so fucked up. I mean seriously...why can't people see that?

And I'll bet you'd say that Clinton was the best president we've had in recent history. God help us...
 
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GodBlessTexas said:
Perhaps if Clinton hadn't spent 8 years FUCKING HIS INTERNS but running the country instead, things wouldn't be so fucked up. I mean seriously...why can't people see that?

And I'll bet you'd say that Clinton was the best president we've had in recent history. God help us...

Don't pull that card, it was unnecessary and only served to be inflammatory rather than a decent argument.
 
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