Why is pot illegal?

[His Whimsicality]

Because there are a bunch of prejudiced and narrow-minded politicians who are afraid of losing votes.

 

[kwt]

all is forgiven

I saw an interesting show on PBS about this. They said that during prohibition, pot was legal. In fact they said it was sold, very cheaply, at drugstores, in pre rolled cigarettes. The thing was, it wasn't fashionable among white wealthy people. The people who were buying it were slaves, and others of foreign descent (god I hope thats the pc way to say that). Eventually, those in power decided that pot was "Making black people go crazy", and that there would be some kind of uprisng in the streets. It was made illegal very quickly...and here we are. I was stoned when I watched it (as I am now and every darn time ya'll see me) so forgive me if my memory is hazy.

now quit Bogartin the doobie and pass it over!


kwt

 

[unusuallyconfused]

I have a problem of laughing my ass off when I smoke that stuff, sometimes for no reason whatsoever. Uh, its a little embarrassing.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Why pot is really illegal

Back in the day a guy called Hearst owned a lot of newspapers. Not only the papers themselves, but also the presses, the distrubution network of trucks and newsagents, and papermills, and indeed the lumber yards themselves -- a nice tidy vertical monolopy. Now the only problem for good ol' William Randolf was the jupe (hemp) growers were making crazy good, reliable, cheap paper from the same plant maryjane comes from. This was eating into his paper-making operation. He financed a series of movies (not the government, who indeed was taxing the hell out of the product already) about how smoking a J drove good people to axe murder their families. Thusly, because they saw it in a movie, the nation went into a reefer-induced (non-inhaling though) panic -- and all things maryjane related were outlawed, including the harmless, unsmokable (well it wont make you high), and useful hemp plant.

So there. Rosebud

Now that I found very interesting...thanks dza...

Ties in with my view on things as well.

 

[beckbabe]

Rollllllllll another one........just like the otherrrrrrrr one.......
..Here ya' go KWT

 

[Mustang Sally]

good arguments, crazy

2. Pot, like any other drug, can be psychologically addictive. Long term dope smokers generally become lethargic, uninterested in work or even sex. If they do retain some libido, babies can be born with handicaps due to damage which long term marijuana use can cause to male and female reproduction systems.

Everything I know about pot I learned from my dear old dad. At forty-something, he's still an almost daily user. He grows it in his back yard. He uses it a work (in a factory, operating heavy machinery). I don't want to offend anyone here who might fit that description, but I have absolutely no respect for the guy for that very reason. I see the lethargic, passive results - yes, even when he's not high. That's kinda coloured my whole perspective on it.

In short, the criminal element associated with pot ought to be stopped. Decriminalising it would do this. To legalise pot however, would be to deny the real dangers that can be associated with this drug as much as any other.

I have no problem with those who occasionally want to party with it, and really, I don't think it's any more dangerous than alcohol and no more unhealthy than cigarettes, so sure, decriminalise it. But don't legalise it.

 

[Comshaw]

riff

Why is pot illegal?

My God! Don't you know anything? It's because you'll go on to harder things, just like sex!
First it's,"Oh please Mary, just let me touch it one time, i'll only put my finger in a little." The next thing you know you want to fuck her until you cum, then a blow job and finally (shudder) the evil nasty ass fuck! Just like that you'll have a sex crazed woman on your hands wanting to fuck every time you turn around.
That's why we must protect these United States from such things as (gasp)Marijuana and too much sex.
So when you find any of that vile nasty weed or discover a woman that wants sex all the time, call me at 999-555-1515 and I'll do my patriotic duty and handle the problem. I am not beyond giving myself to protect the young of our country.

Comshaw the straight arrow

 

[beckbabe]

I've read books with that sentiment Sally, and others with the opposite. Very little testing has ever been done so it's confusing.

 

[p_p_man]

There's been testing in the UK...

I've read books with that sentiment Sally, and others with the opposite. Very little testing has ever been done so it's confusing.

...for over 3 years now. It all started by stories that were slowly emerging in the media that smoking pot helped reduce the pain caused by athritus. One of the first stories I remember, and one of the more hilarious, was about a police raid on a suburban house outside London where the occupants were suspected of holding drug induced orgies.

When the police finally went in mob-handed screaming "Go!...Go!...Go!", breaking down the front door and generally causing mayhem they found a group of 8-10 geriatrics all with silly grins on their faces having a pain free afternoon by passing some joints around. One story, not actually proved, said that one enterprising eighty year old looked at the police said "Hey...Peace man...", and tried to give them all plastic flowers she kept in a vase.

That story hit the headlines which in turn led to other sufferers trying it out with a large degree of success.

Eventually the white haired revolution caught on to such a degree (it was even brought in to sit-coms as comical one line jokes), that the Government gave up trying to hush the whole thing up and began a planned experimntal testing programme.

Even that has its funny side. Only the most naive would grow pot in unguarded open fields, with only a flimsy fence that could be stepped over as protection, but yep, that's what the Government did. It wasn't until they lost their second harvest that it began to dawn on them that a secret location may be a better place to grow the stuff in the first place.

The testing hasn't yet begun but people suffering from any medically induced pain are willing to try anything and so the pensioners (I say that because they are the biggest group of sufferers) soldier on smoking their illegal substances and effectively saying "Fuck You!" to the authorities...

 

[beckbabe]

p p Man...thats very interesting to me. I wonder if any lung or brain damage, from long term use, wouldn't be a concern at that age? Maybe there isn't much "long term" left. As for me, I think I liked it better when they weren't testing...ignorance being a rather stoney bliss. Have they come up with any results so far?

hehe..oh yeah...where is that field? I have heard the Govt. has the best stuff...if it's there for the taking..I want it! I don't doubt this story is true, but it sounds like something from a Cheech and Chong movie. Lmao..thanks these giggles go well with my buzz

...thinking of methodone clinics...nothing makes sense some days...

 

[p_p_man]

The UK Govt hasn't finalised...

...its testing yet but they do produce periodic progress reports saying that results so far are "inconclusive".

Needless to say no-one believes them, especially not those who are suffering. They know it's doing them good, they feel it.

So as the pensioners revolution continues to grow in popularity and strength most people think the Government will hope it'll go away..

No chance in that now my Grandma's joined!!

 

[Guest]

Well I didn't want to say anything, but reading this whole entire thread, I had to comment. Personally, I do smoke pot, and often. I use it in a fun way, sit around with friends, pass a bong, and enjoy. I've even gone to school high, everyday for the last marking period. Pot makes me concentrate harder, think things through, and have fun. The dangerous part of Marijuana is that IT IS A GATEWAY DRUG! I never thought I'd admit it, but after smoking enough, I wanted to go higher and higher, and now with the help from and little toy named "E", I've found that destination.
Should marijuana be legal? In my opinion, yes, it should be. Don't try to hide something that is obviously there, everyone knows about marijuana, and let it be legal. On a happier note, Load Up that Bong and Light One Up!!!

**pUFf**PuFF**

 

[Always]

i started a thread like this some time ago...

ugggghhhhh! weed is harmless. whatever you believe it is, it will be. weed has no negative effects whatsoever, unless you smoke it - and it's the fac that you're putting smoke in your lungs, not what kind. it's not addictive. it's not harmful. i helps prevent glaucoma and cancer and is an excellent way to relax. when used responsibly - much as is required with alchohol and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous - and in the privacy of one's home where your impaired state can't affect anyone, it's all good.

i smoke weed. i don't go to classes stoned cause i'm paranoid. cannabis is NOT a gateway drug. it's enough for me and always will be. maybe somedat i'll trip once or twice, just to see. but smoking weed does not make you want to do other stuff. if you do too much it deadens your sense of stonerness and makes it harder to get high, so you look for stronger stuff. fact is you make that decision, not the weed. it's not addictive. it's not harmful. it is, however, a benefit to our country and i think we should use it.

hemp - which is not weed, but a non thc-copy - could make soooooooo much more paper sooooo much more efficiently than trees. the government should exploit weed like they exploit booze and ciggies cause face it, it's the only way we're gettin' our Mary Jane legal.

i long for the day i can walk to the corner store and pick me up a pack of class-a full length prerolled joints.

yeah right, like that'll ever happen.

 

[Jerahmeel]

To me I believe the real reason pot will never be legal is money. Tabbaco is a very hard plant to grow. It requires a serten type of climate. But pot can be growen anywhere no matter the climate. I have heard of people that grew it in the bath tube. Since it is so easy to grow. It would be very hard to tax. So there is the goverments with no money. Then there is the tabbaco comapines. If it can be growne so easy why buy it. They would never make no money. Third drug compaines counldn't sell it eithere. There are three of the most powerfull groups in this country not making any money off this and some might even lose money.In this country money is what counts to most. Don't let them tell you other wise.

 

[skitch]

as a son..

to a father suffering from glaucoma, i can honestly say i want it legalized. When he found out from the specialist, the doctor actually told my father to smoke marijuana *not knowing that my father has since he was my age*. The doc proceeded to tell him that if my father didn't know where to get any, that he could "help him out" and give him a phone number that would help. Also, the prescribed drug Marinol was given to him. Marinol *which strangely resembles marijuana..wonder why* does basically the same thing that weed does...presumably, and i only say that because i'm no doctor, for glaucoma patients, weed helps the bloodflow in the arteries in the eyes.... if my father hadn't been smoking all this time, he might have gone blind before we had a chance to fight it.

Don't get me wrong tho...i smoke marijuana..but i only just started. The only reason i see it not being legalized is because it couldnt' be regulated and taxed by the gov't. Like tobacco, weed is grown..duh...but with tobacco must be accompanied by certain machinery to develop it into a finished product...that's not the case with marijuana...that's another reason it's not legalized..because ANYONE can grow it...

yes it kills brain cells....so does loud music...and you're not about to tell me i have to turn my StainD or Limp Bizkit tunes down..no way, no how.

that is all.

skitch

 

[Guest]

I'm curious to know how many of you pot supporters are actual medical doctors or scientists who have done some sort of research on the subject? If you're not, you have no right to speculate on how safe and wonderful pot is because you get high once a week or once a month and are perfectly fine. I think it's irresponsible and just plain stupid of you to post things without at least providing some sort of reputable link. Just because a friend of a friend told you weed does not impair your ability to think or make rational decisions or because you personally don't feel impaired while high does not mean weed isn't dangerous. Yes, many in the medical field feel that marijuana does have a purpose, but for those with arthritis, cancer, and other debilitating ailments and diseases- not the recreational user who does it for fun. There's a huge differance between smoking weed for fun and doing it because the disease you suffer from tortures you so much you can't get through the day.

 

[Guest]

I'm curious to know how many of you pot supporters are actual medical doctors or scientists who have done some sort of research on the subject? If you're not, you have no right to speculate on how safe and wonderful pot is because you get high once a week or once a month and are perfectly fine.

To be fair they also read the hard-hitting, unbiased journalism of High Times

 

[Laurel]

I'm curious to know how many of you pot supporters are actual medical doctors or scientists who have done some sort of research on the subject? If you're not, you have no right to speculate on how safe and wonderful pot is because you get high once a week or once a month and are perfectly fine. I think it's irresponsible and just plain stupid of you to post things without at least providing some sort of reputable link. Just because a friend of a friend told you weed does not impair your ability to think or make rational decisions or because you personally don't feel impaired while high does not mean weed isn't dangerous. Yes, many in the medical field feel that marijuana does have a purpose, but for those with arthritis, cancer, and other debilitating ailments and diseases- not the recreational user who does it for fun. There's a huge differance between smoking weed for fun and doing it because the disease you suffer from tortures you so much you can't get through the day.

FYI - I don't smoke anything. I rarely drink. Why? Because I can't handle it. I'm a lightweight. A night of drinking messes me up for weeks. Pot makes my lungs all congested. Cigarette smoke does the same thing. I'm a wuss, a sorry excuse for a porn mistress.

That said...all of the health arguments made aginst pot could easily be made against alcohol, yet we can all agree that Prohibition was a dismal failure. Twinkies aren't very good for me either. Should the government be doing my grocery shopping to make sure I'm eating right? If I'm paying my health insurance and not getting in anyone else's way, why is my health anyone's business but my own?

 

[Guest]

Twinkies don't impair your ability to make rational decisions nor do they pose a danger to anyone else around after you've eaten one. That's why pot is illegal- it impairs your ability to think and it poses a danger to the people around you.

 

[Never]

Why all this talk about pot? I could use a good roll and a hug right now, myself.

 

[Laurel]

Twinkies don't impair your ability to make rational decisions nor do they pose a danger to anyone else around after you've eaten one. That's why pot is illegal- it impairs your ability to think and it poses a danger to the people around you.

So does alcohol. Alcohol is legal. Prohibition failed. Explain to me how pot is more dangerous than alcohol.

 

[Laurel]

Why all this talk about pot? I could use a good roll and a hug right now, myself.

**roll**
**hug**

 

[Never]

I don't want to really join the argument but I'd rather be around an angry stoner than an angry drunk.

 

[Laurel]

Exactly my point.

 

[Weevil]

Exactly my point.

The worst thing an angry stoner did to me was steal a bag of Oreos, angry drunks have beat me, my mom and Driven into me. And that's just my Family.