Why is doing the Right thing always the hard way?

[peachykeen]

Society rewards the wrong thing, it does not reward the right thing. thats just the way it is.

Good thing I do not depend on society for my rewards, then.

Society doesn't have to look me in the mirror every morning, just me.

 

[Aquila]

Good thing I do not depend on society for my rewards, then.

Society doesn't have to look me in the mirror every morning, just me.

The mirror is a great thing for me to polish my horns.

and you do depend on society for your rewards. to say that you don't is just hyperbole

 

[peachykeen]

Society does not determine my self respect or my level of satisfaction with my life. These are mine and mine alone to grant. Material stuff maybe but at the end of the day that is of limited importance.

 

[Suzi]

You ever notice how you have to fight, struggle and claw your way along the path of whats right. All you have to do doing the wrong thing is hop in the wagon, close your eyes and fly down the path. No wonder they call someone who takes the right path a man of strong character. It's had a hell of a workout to get there lol.Thank you so listening to me ramble.

I know just where you are coming from---I had a situation like that recently. You agonize over what to do. Your heart races as the time draws near. Then when the moment comes, all you can do is take a deep breath, and do it....

Doing the right thing is not always easy...and sometimes, people's feelings can get hurt. You just have to look ahead--look at the big picture. Ask yourself if the wrong decision will lead you where you wanna be....

And I do not mind listening to you ramble....as long as you don't mind!

 

[Aquila]

Society does not determine my self respect or my level of satisfaction with my life. These are mine and mine alone to grant. Material stuff maybe but at the end of the day that is of limited importance.

Would that you where ugly, or some such other easy to bring up flaw yes society would determine you'r level of self worth.
thats too easily demonstratable via basic psychology
self respect, well I can't dispute that.

 

[peachykeen]

Would that you where ugly, or some such other easy to bring up flaw yes society would determine you'r level of self worth.
thats too easily demonstratable via basic psychology
self respect, well I can't dispute that.

so you're saying people who are, say, disabled or disfigured, their level of self worth is detemined by society? Surely you jest.

 

[Aquila]

so you're saying people who are, say, disabled or disfigured, their level of self worth is detemined by society? Surely you jest.

Surely I say they are affected by society, in a signifigant way.
If your told something enough times you WILL start to believe it. thats a demonstratable fact. thats how one accomplishes brainwashing, crude brainwashing, yet that is one way its done.

 

[The Squid King]

Sometimes what is percieved as the easy way out becomes infinitely more difficult than the "hard" way.

My life is a metaphor to that statement.

 

[peachykeen]

Surely I say they are affected by society, in a signifigant way.
If your told something enough times you WILL start to believe it. thats a demonstratable fact. thats how one accomplishes brainwashing, crude brainwashing, yet that is one way its done.

Do you, like, actually know any disabled people?

Of course we are all *affected* by society. That doesn't mean we determine our individual happiness by it's mean or average, however.

 

[Aquila]

Do you, like, actually know any disabled people?

Of course we are all *affected* by society. That doesn't mean we determine our individual happiness by it's mean or average, however.

Normally Id react to that statement, with a sarcastic.. Nope Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre don't, however in the middle of writing it, I realized.. "well Duh, she doesnt know that."

Yeah I do know a few.
so I aint talking out my ass (for a change)
and affected is a mild mild word to use in that instance.
I don't feel like going in to specifics because its not me im talking about and I don't have the right to do so. but Ive seen someone go from Mr. ICanDoAnythingIPutMyMindTo to Mr. KillMePlease once his legs where blown off.

 

[peachykeen]

I don't feel like going in to specifics because its not me im talking about and I don't have the right to do so. but Ive seen someone go from Mr. ICanDoAnythingIPutMyMindTo to Mr. KillMePlease once his legs where blown off.

Well I can respect that. And I'm sorry to hear it.

But, surely the experience of one individual cannot be construed as being true of all.

Yes society may look more narrowly at anyone who is 'different' and it may be more difficult for some to get to a place in their hearts and minds where they can find their rewards in life not reflected in the eyes of others but in the sanctity of their own souls. And yet for some it may not be difficult at all. We are all, in the end, on this journey through life alone. Heaven knows there are many good looking, 'successful' people who have reaped society's 'rewards', had it all.... and blown their brains out, or OD'd, or let the car fill up with carbon monoxide, or whatever.

Ultimately, if your rewards in life do not come from YOU, you are not, by my personal definition, successful, now matter how big your house is, how many cars you have, how gorgeous you are.

 

[Aquila]

Well I can respect that. And I'm sorry to hear it.

But, surely the experience of one individual cannot be construed as being true of all.

Yes society may look more narrowly at anyone who is 'different' and it may be more difficult for some to get to a place in their hearts and minds where they can find their rewards in life not reflected in the eyes of others but in the sanctity of their own souls. And yet for some it may not be difficult at all. We are all, in the end, on this journey through life alone. Heaven knows there are many good looking, 'successful' people who have reaped society's 'rewards', had it all.... and blown their brains out, or OD'd, or let the car fill up with carbon monoxide, or whatever.

Ultimately, if your rewards in life do not come from YOU, you are not, by my personal definition, successful, now matter how big your house is, how many cars you have, how gorgeous you are.

He was one example, my previous career saw that I met several people like him.

And I like your concept of how it should be, and congratulate you if that is how it is for you. however its not a common thing for someone who is by societys definition an unworthy being.

 

[Never]

Snoozebutton:
”You ever notice how you have to fight, struggle and claw your way along the path of whats right.”
No.

Snoozebutton:
”All you have to do doing the wrong thing is hop in the wagon, close your eyes and fly down the path.”
This is sometimes true, and sometimes false. The idea that doing the wrong thing is ‘easy’ or that the majority of people are doing the wrong thing is a religious one tied in with the idea of a ‘chosen few,' sin, and redeption.

Snoozebutton:
”No wonder they call someone who takes the right path a man of strong character. It's had a hell of a workout to get there lol.Thank you so listening to me ramble.”
Some of the vilest persons in history were ‘strong’. I’ve known quite a few people that I’d call weak, yet they have done more good than I.

 

[snoozebutton]

Re: Re: Why is doing the Right thing always the hard way?

I know just where you are coming from---I had a situation like that recently. You agonize over what to do. Your heart races as the time draws near. Then when the moment comes, all you can do is take a deep breath, and do it....

Doing the right thing is not always easy...and sometimes, people's feelings can get hurt. You just have to look ahead--look at the big picture. Ask yourself if the wrong decision will lead you where you wanna be....

And I do not mind listening to you ramble....as long as you don't mind!

I don't mind at all .

 

[snoozebutton]

Never I'm glad you've found the right path easy. It's true being good has a basis in religion because that was the great civilizer. Before religion you had no right or wrong just strong and weak. While the viliest may have been strong of will that doesn't mean they had chacacter.

 

[Never]

Snoozebutton:
“Never I'm glad you've found the right path easy. It's true being good has a basis in religion because that was the great civilizer. Before religion you had no right or wrong just strong and weak. While the viliest may have been strong of will that doesn't mean they had chacacter.”

Agriculture was the great ‘civilizer’. Morality existed before religion. You’re changing your definition of ‘strong’ – before we were talking about the ability to do things the hard way and now you’re using it to talk about power. By definition someone who is vile doesn’t have good ‘character’.

 

[snoozebutton]

Your right , the original subject got blurred.